Re: [CF-metadata] Silicate vs. dissolved inorganic silicon

e also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: James Orr Sent: 27 March 2017 12:23 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: John Dunne - NOAA Federal; ; Alison Pamment; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Silicate vs. dissolved inorganic silicon Hi Roy,

Re: [CF-metadata] Silicate vs. dissolved inorganic silicon

remove the chemical formula after the word 'anion'. Your thoughts? Jim On Mon, 27 Mar 2017, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Many thanks James, I like it. I had visions of tens of thousands of files needing to be edited - we're bringing in semantically aware compliance checkers

Re: [CF-metadata] WG: proposal for two new standard_names and an additional chemical species

Hi Alison, The 'in equilibrium' in pCO2 definition refers to the air in the analytical equipment and so has nothing to do with air-sea interface equilibrium. pCO2 is measured by using something like a shower-head or a column full of marbles to equilibrate the water sample with a stream of air

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names Representing Measurements not due to some process

Dear Andrew, It's somewhat difficult to be elegant here, but here are some suggestions: volume_beam_attenuation_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_sea_water_corrected_for_pure_water_attenuance volume_beam_attenuation_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_sea_water_due_to_dissolved_and_particulate_mat

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names Representing Measurements not due to some process

if your requirement is urgent. From: Andrew Barna Sent: 03 April 2017 23:41 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names Representing Measurements not due to some process Roy, The *_due_to_dissolved_and_particulate_material vers

Re: [CF-metadata] high sample rate (seismic) data conventions

Dear Jonathan, Couple of points to back up Seth. First is that the primary domain of the CF conventions is ocean-atmosphere modelling. Whilst this has expanded into observational data in the atmosphere and the ocean, it has never to my knowledge been extended to seismics. My only experience wi

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for OMIP biogeochemistry and chemistry

Superb outcome. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard name: volume_beam_attenuation_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_sea_water_corrected_for_pure_water_attenuance

Dear All, Other than the nitpick than 'remove the influence of absorption/scattering by the water itself.' is marginally better English than 'remove the influence of absorption/scattering from the water itself.' this looks perfectly OK to me. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retire

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard name: volume_beam_attenuation_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_sea_water_corrected_for_pure_water_attenuance

nt to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: Andrew Barna Sent: 24 April 2017 19:09 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for NEMO ocean model output

Dear All, My preference (but not insistence) would be for the more compact versions providing steric, halosteric and thermosteric are clearly described in the definitions. This is cleaner, less confusing, consistent with past practice, more likely to be discovered and readily understandable by

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for CF trac ticket #143

Dear Karl, As an oceanographic data centre we come across the term 'mean' sea level quite a lot. Common understanding of the generic term is that the averaging interval is any period long enough to remove the tidal signal, typically 1-2 years. This is sufficiently precise for most use cases

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

Dear Ute, I would prefer the same Standard Name for the currents in a body of water whether or not it is covered by ice. What happens if you have a full year of data from a position where there is only ice for part of the year? Would you have a change of Standard Name for the water body curren

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: Ute Brönner Sent: 31 May 2017 08:24 To: Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] sea water speed and direction?

Dear John, That's a good point about the ambiguity of 'direction_of_sea_water_velocity'. As an observational oceanographer its built into my core program that 'direction' means 'direction_to' for currents. I'm not alone here, which is probably how the ambiguity got overlooked when the Standard

Re: [CF-metadata] sea water speed and direction?

n in practice for sea water and sea ice? I mean, does anyone use "from" directions for these velocities? If there is a use-case, I agree we ought to distinguish. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:20:26 +000

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

Dear Matthias, All I can say that is that in-situ conditions were my assumption when involved in the initial discussions on this issue. However, I would not rely on the Standard Name to convey such detailed usage metadata information. Its function is to describe what was measured rather than t

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

. From: Matthias Tuma Sent: 08 June 2017 16:32 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions? Dear Roy, thank you for your helpful comment on the in-situ conditions. For the question about adding this

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

Hi John, Totally agree with you about the confidence level and what people SHOULD be doing. However, I am uncomfortable with CF becoming a tool to force those who have quoted at standard conditions and used the existing Standard Name rework their data. However, should a formal approach from

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: James Orr Sent: 09 June 2017 08:08 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: John Dunne - NOAA Federal

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

Dear Chris, My understanding (based on memory not research of the archives) was that this statement was deliberate to allow a single Standard Name to cover a field that is spatial distribution of the velocity of a water body at the point where it is in contact with the atmosphere whether or n

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

ry Sent: 09 June 2017 14:16 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: Chris Barker; Ute Brönner; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Morten Omholt Alver; Tor Nordam Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water Dear Roy, Chris et al. It's possible that it was intentional, but I would tend to thin

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change

Hi Alison, I sent a response to Karl a couple of weeks back on 'mean sea level', which I'll repeat below: ' As an oceanographic data centre we come across the term 'mean' sea level quite a lot. Common understanding of the generic term is that the averaging interval is any period long enough t

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change

Dear Jonathan and Alison, A couple more things prompted by Jonathan's reply. I totally agree with creating the aliases and like Jonathan's definition, although I wouldn't specify 19 years anywhere. Even the standards like ODN are averaged over less than 10 years. One year seems to be commonly u

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change

Dear Jonathan, I'm OK with losing the 'principal'. I know what I mean by that, but there are some (many) who might not! Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in th

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change

use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk Sent: 22 June 2017 12:49 To: Lowry, Roy K.; j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change Dear Jonathan and

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard name for direction of wind gust

Hi Karl, It would be far clearer to me if the same construct established for mean wind velocity were applied to gust wind velocity and I would prefer it if the existing constructs (used for currents as well as winds) were left as they are. So, my preference would be for Stephane's suggestion

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change

is an arbitrary level.' > > global_average_thermosteric_sea_level_change (m) > 'N.B. Global average sea level change should NOT be understood as the global > spatial mean of local changes in mean sea level! Global average thermosteric > sea level change is the part caused

[CF-metadata] Fw: Standard names for mean sea level change

. From: Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 23 June 2017 18:19 To: Jonathan Gregory Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard names for mean sea level change Thanks Jonathan, Think I can live with that. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only

Re: [CF-metadata] Fw: Standard names for mean sea level change

local changes in mean sea level.' > > The other definitions would be amended similarly. Is this okay? > > Best wishes, > Alison > > -- > Alison Pamment Tel: +44 > 1235 778065 > Centre for Environmental Data An

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard name for land/sea mask

Dear Jim, Just for information there are three other binary mask Standard Names (surface_snow_binary_mask, sunlit_binary_mask and cloud_binary_mask) providing a precedent for Elodie's proposal so as you say sea_binary_mask should be added to the collection. Regarding your generic mask sugges

Re: [CF-metadata] Is "psu" a valid cf unit?

Hello Martin, This topic has been debated at length in CF. To cut a long story short, the term 'Practical Salinity Unit' was coined when the 1978 Practical Salinity scale was devised. However, the term fell out of favour with the physical oceanographic community whose current recommended pract

Re: [CF-metadata] Is "psu" a valid cf unit?

ould be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: V. Balaji - NOAA Affiliate Sent: 18 July 2017 14:12 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; d.c.hass...@reading.ac.uk; r.s.hatc..

Re: [CF-metadata] Is "psu" a valid cf unit?

fc.ac.uk; v.bal...@noaa.gov Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Lowry, Roy K. ; stephen.griff...@noaa.gov; gok...@ucar.edu; simon.marsl...@csiro.au Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Is "psu" a valid cf unit? Hello All, This appears to have stirred up quite a lot. I think Balaji is raising a point

Re: [CF-metadata] Sign convention of upwelling and downwelling fluxes

Ditto. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent

Re: [CF-metadata] Two new oceanic standard names for inorganic nitrogen and iron

Dear Daniel, We already have a 'mass_concentration_of_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water, in which 'inorganic nitrogen' is defined as: 'Inorganic nitrogen' describes a family of chemical species which, in an ocean model, usually includes nitrite, nitrate and ammonium which act as nitrogen nutri

Re: [CF-metadata] A user has a set of variables they can't store: advice?

Dear Cathy, I fully understand the issue of parameter labelling in NASA Ames, having spent a lot of time trying to sort out the plaintext labelling in the Ames data stock of BADC as part of the NERC DataGrid project over a decade ago. Some of the problems - spelling, variations in word order a

Re: [CF-metadata] Invalid alias IDs in CF Standard Name Table v47

Dear Murray, The whole point of these two aliases was to correct the accidental omission of an underscore. I appreciate the issues that this causes for rigorous XML parsing. For a number of reasons, including support of data delivery systems based on Linked Data, we have set up an alternativ

Re: [CF-metadata] Invalid alias IDs in CF Standard Name Table v47

Dear Murray, The duplicate you mention is a case where the original Standard Name was unfit for purpose due to the direction of the flux being implicit (assumed downwards) rather than explicit. We tackled this in our serving by using narrowMatch as the mapping predicate to both possibilities,

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

Dear Jonathan, I think the number of possible isotope names is relatively small (<100 - please correct me if I'm wrong) compared to the thousand upon thousand of possible biological taxa. If so, I wonder if normalising out the isotope name is worth the effort of maintaining the standard list a

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

#x27;tritiated water' normalised out into an isotope controlled vocabulary. Consequently, I share your preference for managing isotopes as chemicals in Standard names. Cheers, Roy. -Original Message- From: Heiko Klein [mailto:heiko.kl...@met.no] Sent: 03 January 2018 13:13 To: Lowry, Roy

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

standard names are (so far). I'm > not sure those conventions can work for the names of nuclides though. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > ----- Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > >> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 13:52:01 + >> From: "Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

eries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: Heiko Klein Sent: 04 January 2018 10:07 To: Lowry, Roy K.; Jonathan Gregory; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposa

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

- Forwarded message from Heiko Klein - > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 11:07:18 +0100 > From: Heiko Klein > To: "Lowry, Roy K." , Jonathan Gregory >, "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and &

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

Dear David, I would suggest that the guidelines be amended to cover the new use case presented by Heiko. Something like: Standard names consist of lower-letters, digits and underscores, and begin with a letter. Upper case is not used except for IUPAC symbols in the labels of radioactive and

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

Hello Martin, >From an oceanographic perspective I had always thought of solar (and other >waveband) irradiance as the energy incident on the sea surface, which is a >horizontal surface. So, I would like to think of solar_irradiance as being >horizontal_solar_irradiance and if any new Standard

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

. From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk Sent: 26 January 2018 15:57 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: Definiton of solar_irradiance Hello Roy, I suspected that there might be such a usage ... but don't you agree that the current CF definition, which I've quoted

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

r...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk Sent: 26 January 2018 16:52 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: Definiton of solar_irradiance Dear Roy, If we were starting from sc

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk Sent: 26 January 2018 19:15 To: Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

ement is urgent. From: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk Sent: 27 January 2018 00:05 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: Definiton of solar_irradiance Hello Roy, maybe .. but I was talking about the current definition of the CF standard name &q

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

requirement is urgent. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 27 January 2018 07:51 To: martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance Dear Martin, I think that there has been some

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

rtwave_flux" might cover what they want (because "flux" means "flux per unit area" and radiative fluxes in CF are always radiative energy fluxes). Is there any difference between TOA incoming radiative flux (in W m-2) and horizontal irradiance that I am missing? reg

Re: [CF-metadata] Definiton of solar_irradiance

ely fits within either. Without a specifier, I think people would assume that it is over all wavelengths, not just shortwave. If you want shortwave only, then I guess that would need to be a more precise term. Grace and peace, Jim On 1/29/18 11:51 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Jim, The data w

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposing new names for marine biogeochemical modeling

Dear All, First, the correct spelling is 'flagellate', not 'flaggelate'. Secondly, this proposal causes me concerns because it is adding more biological names (not species but taxonomic phyla, although Flagellate in an unaccepted synonym for Discomitochondria

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposing new names for marine biogeochemical modeling

/trac/ticket/99 > > I still accept the conclusion we reached there re biological taxa and I > support > the ticket. As you know, I am not an expert on this, but I will try to > contribute if you revitalise the ticket. I hope that it can be made to meet > Daniel's needs. >

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposing new names for marine biogeochemical modeling

t can be made to meet Daniel's needs. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." ----- > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:12:50 + > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Daniel Neumann , CF Metadata Mail List > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata]

Re: [CF-metadata] how to use ocean_mixed_layer_thickness_defined_by_*

Hello Sebastien, I have to admit that coming from an observational background I do not fully understand the raft of mixed layer thickness Standard Names that I presume have their origins in model data. They've been around for a long while (dated 2006, but could predate that by a couple of year

Re: [CF-metadata] how to use ocean_mixed_layer_thickness_defined_by_*

Dear Jonathan and Sebastien, I was initially thinking of not including '_defining_mixed_layer' in my suggestion and am certainly happy with leaving it out. However, I still think sigma_t and sigma_theta should be prefixed with 'sea_water'. This would give: sea_water_temperature_difference sea

Re: [CF-metadata] use of integral_wrt_depth_of_sea_water_practical_salinity

Dear Sebastien, I somehow missed the previous debate but totally agree with Jonathan's e-mail as the tidiest solution. I can think of another kludge, but it' s even uglier than Jonathan's suggestion so I'll keep it to myself! Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015.

[CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

Dear All, Here is an initial batch of 8 Standard Names to support the CF taxon dimension. Two are dimension labels whilst the other six are measurements to which the taxon is a co-ordinate. Five of these are to cover Daniel's proposal that prompted the resurrection of Ticket 99. I've present

[CF-metadata] Fw: Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

requirement is urgent. From: Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 16 April 2018 11:09 To: Daniel Neumann Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99 Thanks Daniel, To clarify LSID isn't a database, it's an identifier for an organism that nea

Re: [CF-metadata] Fw: Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

- John Graybeal jbgrayb...@mindspring.com<mailto:jbgrayb...@mindspring.com> 650-450-1853 skype: graybealski linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/johngraybeal/ On Apr 16, 2018, at 03:10, Lowry, Roy K. mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk>> wrote: Forgot to do reply all Please note that I partially

Re: [CF-metadata] Fw: Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

t size categorizations. If we look into fish, the life stage and maybe also the gender are important parameters. The life stage and size class are probably important also for modelers. Therefore, we could consider to include attributes (or further variables?) like 'size class', 'gender

Re: [CF-metadata] how to use ocean_mixed_layer_thickness_defined_by_*

coord var. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > > - Forwarded message from Sebastien Villaume > > - > >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:36:21 + (GMT-00:00) >> From: Sebastien Villaume >> To: cf-met

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

Hello Andrew, I've been watching this thread without responding. Your request in this e-mail makes a lot of sense to me. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in t

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

t (surprisingly) be interpreted as meaning how many species there are per unit volume. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:02:59 + > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.ed

Re: [CF-metadata] Fw: Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

ly with respect to the B contained in A, neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. Biological taxon is a name or other label identifying an organism or a group of organisms as belonging to a unit of classification in a hierarchical taxonomy.' This name is agreed and will be accepte

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

Dear Jonathan, I'll leave it to Andy to explain 'without tide' from a modelling perspective - I can guess what they do but could be wrong. In NOC we measure and report the sea surface elevation relative to a datum - Lowest Astronomical Tide - but we then subtract the elevation relative to that

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

Hi Andy, A thought that struck me as I read through your e-mail is that surges aren't the only meteorological forcing. Whilst in a model the non-tide contributions can be easily differentiated in observational data they cannot. Would 'sea_surface_height_due_to_meteorological_forcing' be a be

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

tee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 03 May 2018 09:47 To: Saulter,

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

Dear Jonathan, I totally agree with Andy on this point. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

Hi Andy, Finally managed to check the detail of this proposal and agree with Jonathan that all now looks good. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office.

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

Dear Andy, I agree with Jonathan that specifically referencing LAT in the Standard Name would be better. In the UK sea level community there is a tendency to use the term 'chart datum' when what is really meant is 'Admiralty Chart Datum', which is defined as LAT. Some other navies (e.g. Austr

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

Dear Daniel, I think benthos chemistry is virgin territory for CF - not really surprising for a standard that started in the atmosphere before dipping its toes in the ocean. Some thoughts based on my experience with observed sediment chemistry data. The data may be reported per unit mass of

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

e matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the location of the interface between water column and sediment can be provided via the comment attribute. Cheers, Daniel On 15.05.2018 18:30, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Daniel, I think benthos chemistry is virgin territory for CF - not really

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

r. The sediment is up to thousands of metres thick and rests on the bedrock, which is the oceanic crust. Is this what you mean by sediment? Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 09:42:04 + > From: "Lowry, R

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

ceptable alternative? moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_seabed_sediment This would clarify that the sea floor is meant as location of the sediment. It would also clarify that not bare rock is meant. Cheers, Daniel On 16.05.2018 11:42, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Thanks Daniel, Couple of additional thoughts that struck me. Is

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

water column and sediment can be provided via the comment attribute. Cheers, Daniel On 17.05.2018 16:00, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi Daniel, That works for me. Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail ad

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

nt of X in a column with unity base area of material/compartment Y. 'Sediment' means particulate matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the location of the interface between water column and sediment can be provided via the comment attribute. Cheers, Daniel On 17.05.2018

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

this e-mail address. ____________ From: Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 18 May 2018 08:47 To: Daniel Neumann; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment? Hi (yet) again, Overnight I remembered a debate on CF about not using'dissolved i

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

means the sum of all inorganic silicon in solution (including silicic acid and its first dissociated anion SiO(OH)3-). 'Biogenic silica' are biogenic silicon minerals which originate from the siliceous skeletal material of dead diatoms and other silica-utilizing organisms. Daniel On 18.05

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

Thunderbird/52.7.0 >> >> Hi Roy, >> >> >> OK, that's fine. Thanks. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >> On 18.05.2018 13:25, Lowry, Roy K. wrot

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

uckes - UKRI STFC Sent: 02 May 2018 08:47 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk; Lowry, Roy K. Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99 Dear Roy, Jonathan, I understand the cause of Jonathan's concern: wikipedia suggests a broader interpretation

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

ms_in_taxon (or _from_ or _belonging_to_) for instance? It is the organisms we mean. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 08:02:05 + > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC , >"c

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

DearSteve, Would you care to provide definitions? Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Hamilton, Steve Sent: 21 May 2018 13:32 To:

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

Dear Steve, One of the reasons I was interested in your definitions was your perspective on the datum (i.e. zero value) for heave. The datum 'mean_sea_level' is well used in CF, but with the definition 'time mean of sea surface elevation at a given location over an arbitrary period sufficient

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

hemselves - can be used to describe instruments, not just vehicles 'e.g. aeroplane, ship or satellite'. We already use pitch roll and yaw for these instruments on surface moorings, and I hope (and assume) this is legal. Thanks - Nan Galbraith On 5/25/18 8:53 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: >

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

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Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

lt;http://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIoceangeo> information, and follow us on Twitter at @NOAANCEIclimate <http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIclimate> and @NOAANCEIocngeo<http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIocngeo>. On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Lowry, Roy K. mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk>> wrote:

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

determined by integrating vertical accelerations of a platform that is nominally at rest. Jim On 5/27/18 5:38 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi Jim, Does "Heave" is a term used to describe the vertical displacement of a moving object above the vertical level of that object when stationary

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

tadata on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 30 May 2018 21:02 To: Jim Biard; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Thanks Jim, That work for me. Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-ma

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

’s input, the below seems acceptable for now Regards Steve From: CF-metadata <mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 30 May 2018 21:37 To: Jim Biard <mailto:jbi...@cicsnc.org>; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> Subject: Re:

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

hink taxonomic_category might be a little better than taxon, but it still seems obscure to me. Can you see something wrong with organisms_in_taxon (or _from_ or _belonging_to_) for instance? It is the organisms we mean. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." -

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

like this new proposal, but I'm not sure what you're asking me. Which extra text? Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:54:57 + > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Jonathan Gregory , "cf-me

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

6.1), and adding yours as 6.4. Then 6.1 and 6.2 will describe mechanisms in CF, and 6.3 and 6.4 applications of these mechanisms. Does that seem OK? Jonathan ----- Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:04:07 + > From: "Lowry, R

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

point.) Grace and peace, > > Jim > On 6/1/18 11:23 AM, Nan Galbraith wrote: > Hi all - > > The latest version is confusing to me. The term 'a platform that is > nominally at rest' does not apply to many platforms for which heave is > calculated; the original version of tha

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

ets back to defining the > 'moving-mean' sea level reference point.) Grace and peace, > > Jim > On 6/1/18 11:23 AM, Nan Galbraith wrote: > Hi all - > > The latest version is confusing to me. The term 'a platform that is > nominally at rest' does not appl

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

rm is pointing with high frequency variations (e.g. the > effect of surface waves on a ship) removed. (This is not necessarily the same > as the direction in which the platform is travelling, called > platform_course).' > > > Okay? > > > As an additional point, I

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

; Okay? As an additional point, I note that besides the names already discussed in this thread, there are a further 11 existing platform names. I will include the new text for 'platform' in their definitions as part of the August standard names update. Best wishes, Alison ___

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

reference frames. Maybe it's not possible to find a happy medium, but I'm hoping to do so. I'll suggest some standard name definitions of my own shortly. Grace and peace, Jim On 7/26/18 2:46 PM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Jim, I think the problem is that the 'plat

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

quantities, which gets back to defining the 'moving-mean' sea level reference point.) Grace and peace, Jim On 6/1/18 11:23 AM, Nan Galbraith wrote: Hi all - The latest version is confusing to me. The term 'a platform that is nominally at rest' does not apply to many platforms fo

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