well, C++ was a bastardized OO programming language in the first place. it
was made to be backwardly compatible with ANSI C, so they had to allow some
really funky crap into it.
i'm speaking from a Java standpoint. it's a BD language, but a really good
teacher of OO principles.
your first
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Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack onto
the page
that will show the last page called
Isn't this fixed in the latest 4.5.1 service pack? I seem to recall
that error information now indicates the template being called if the
While outputing the results, use the following conditional logic:
cfif size neq 0
#name#
/cfif
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How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler template (index.cfm)
that itself includes 30 other templates?
I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire file and print more
information myself. But the last time I tried that the error information I found was
Is that service pack available for Linux?
Ill check. I may not have it...
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Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack onto
the page
that will show the last page called
Isn't this fixed
Many years ago I worked for a large Japanese Multinational and my manager, who was
(is) very respected there actually told us once "a good programmer is known by the
quantity of code he generates."
They had all kinds of source code line-counts and even put up graphs showing which
programmer is
Peter - here's a clue to help you out:
In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the filename at the
beginning and ending point of the file. (!-- begin filename.cfm ---) That way,
when an error occurs, you can view the source and see which file was last processed
before
Query.
Are there any (cf friendly) nntp sites around that allow test posts?
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http://www.allaire.com/developer/TechnologyReference/wap.cfm
http://wap.colorline.no/wap-faq/
Also houseoffusion have a CF-Wap list.
HTH
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other fields in the table. The question is, do I do this search using an
SP
directly on the table or do I suck the whole data set into a verity
collection and use this. Speed is obviously an issue.
if you also need to return the rest of the row then maybe sql server's full
text indexing
Mark
How about sth like
SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY =
(SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
Nick
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Nice try. But nope.
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Hi Richard,
I've had the same problem and i have tried every solution in the book (esp
the ones suggested by AOL) but it didn't help very much. Recently, Rob
Keniger, a member on this list, suggested a simple but working solution:
Just add a random URL param to every link that leads to a dynamic
"nope"
Now that's what I call a meaningful error message ;-)
That type of query should work but I'm not sure what your
primary key is on that table. That's what needs to be in
lines 3 and 4.
Nick
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In other words I think line 3 should have
ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE not ID_ENC_TOY
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
"nope"
Now that's what I call a meaningful error
Sorry for the lack of detail.
The primary key is ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE. The error is that it returns no records at all.
But that's o.k. don't spend too much time banging your head on it. I'll stick with 2
queries if I have to.
---mark
OK That worked. THANK YOU
By the way, I never really thought about this, but wouldn't it be nice if when you're
scanning through the messages of this list considering a response if you knew whether
or not the problem was resolved?
I'm not suggesting this should be come a STANDARD or anything
*WHY* is it good that I can call any template from the browser or as a
module?
First off this is mis-stated. One of the appealing points of fusebox is that
you can lock down all of those function and object tags (whoops did I say
objects?) with only 3 lines of code in your application.cfm. That
by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.
anyone have the same problem ?
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Look at
http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/SearchResults.cfm?keywords=jpeg+t
extsearch=search
~Justin MacCarthy
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:13 AM
Subject: RE: ImageManipulation
I'll post them after i've taken the client specific stuff out and when i can
finally get my nose to stop running. Onproject is a pretty cool product
though, and Mr Reynolds @ Heinz as a Tesco supplier you may be seeing a lot
of it anyway. :)
Regards
Stew
Study rulestell me more!
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It's not the last night for all of us. Can you share your study rules???
Thanks
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From:
What do u want to do? I have one you can play with over the weekend
Stew
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: nntp test sites
Query.
Are there any (cf friendly) nntp sites around that allow test
Hmmm...is this a hint about something you're working on...a new tag,
perhaps? g
Anyway, you can look here:
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/
Regards,
Howie
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:42 AM
HELP!
We are trying to create a file for downloading from a variable. This is the
error we're getting. I have tried permissions on the machine (NT 4), and
also
tried to check the web server (IIS 4) permissions etc. No Luck.
Hi!
We are having some minor difficulties with Webtrends.
1. The graphs that Webtrends makes are not readable. We change some settings
(from .gif - .jpg) but it doesn't help. If I compare our graphs with some
others then our graphs look like s***.
2. On General Stastic page there is a fieled
Hi!
We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C. This conference is great ( I
was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899 (or
$799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO
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CFSPOT ExamMy answer would be "ATTRIBUTES".
DC
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From: Robert Everland III
We're looking for a quick and dirty discussion forum/bulletin board
application and have downloaded Allaire Forums. YIKES... It seems a little
error prone, example: we added a new user, registered, etc. then it tells us
it will be sending us an email notification and then it gives us a nice big
No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go. That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
money too...
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From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL
I don't think that the fee is unreasonable for a three day conference which
includes hands-on training. There are lots of fees that Allaire has to
pay - the hotel (for conference space), their personnel to be at the
conference, etc...
Howie
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From: "Iztok Polanic"
I feel really silly, but I finally figured it out...
I had a query attribute in the CFMAIL tag. Once that was removed it worked
like a charm! So much to learn LOL
:-)
Oriole
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From: "Smith, Melanie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:06 PM
We're looking for a quick and dirty discussion forum/bulletin board
application and have downloaded Allaire Forums. YIKES... It seems a little
error prone, example: we added a
in addition the $899 dosen't even cover Allaires cost for holding this
event
~Justin
No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go. That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental,
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SQL Select Max + a column
How about:
SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM
I would certainly be interested
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 23:17
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I would be intrested as well.
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From: Don Cuniff
OK but then what do you do when you have the date value stored
in the custom field? How can you sort by it? Thanks,
Ryan
If you can spare either og the custom fields, put the date in there, or
store the date in a seperate table and have a key to link the records in the
table to the the
What is the max size of text that I can insert into an SQL database
and is there a way to make an unlimited size available? What I am trying to
do is insert word document converted to html(2000 so they are huge) to make
a database of pocedures here at work. They can be pretty huge, so the
FYI to Allaire: check out the article in October's Wired about floating
conferences. Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
the benefits of being on a cruise, too!
Disclaimer/Proclaimer: I don't work for
Best thing is to work for a company that will pay for you to go...that's why
they can charge so much. When you think about it from Allaire's perspective,
it's like getting paid for marketing instead of vice-versa...the more
programmers that learn this the more it propagates, which I think has
I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and would
cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
week.
I don't know www.geekcruises.com are damned expensive...
$3000 +
Some great speakers though
~Justin
in October's Wired about floating
conferences. Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
the
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Did they have Defender by Williams?
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Go to allaires site and read about stlouisrams.com. I think they take a few
more than a couple thousand hits a week and they speak volumes about Cold
Fusion and it's scaleability.There are alot of sites just like that one
that use cold fusion as well Check out bmwusa.com I am sure they
if this is for an intranet, why not just save the files to some web
directory, and only store the links in the DB? it's a bit more manageable,
in my experience.
chris olive, cio
cresco technologies
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From: Robert Everland
Oh no!!!...don't start this thread up again!tht last one was never
ending!
In short:
Don't neccessarily dismiss CF just because you are developing a major site -
I am developing a site in CF with 4 clustered servers and 3 Million
registered users - copes fine.
It takes much longer to
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Quite honestly, for a few thousand hits a week, you could code it in
QBasic and still have speed to spare I've had good bad luck
scaling applications with both CF and ASP. Alot seems to depend on
how the server software was put together (IE
ColdFusion is as robust as ASP.
~Justin
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From: "Dean Alexandrou" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that
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What is the max size of text that I can insert into an
SQL database and is there a way to make an unlimited
size available? What I am trying to do is insert word
document converted to html(2000 so they are huge) to make
a database of
Hi All,
Let me say in advance that this will be a lengthy description of my problem,
as I believe the more info you have, the better position you will be in to
help me...
[deep breath] Okay. I have (for the most part) a simple app that allows
employees to request approval for training. There
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It takes much longer to develop a site with ASP than CF
That depends on the site... I'm a procedural programmer of many
years, so ASP comes faster to me than CF does. I can still code
anything in either language, but I'm more comfortable with
There is no correct answer. Your choice should be based on current skill
sets. If you have in-house Visual Studio (VB, C++) developers and want to
transpose their skills and wish to only deploy to a MS server platform, you
should seriously consider ASP. (The learning curve for ASP is quite
Yeah, but you probably didn't have to pay it out of the pocket money you get
after the European tax rate (depending on where Iztok is from).
Marianne Daye
(originally from Denmark)
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From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:12
There is one more URL I want to add to this list. I attended the Maryland
CFUG CFun 2K (which was awesome) and Charlie Aerheart gave a good
survey/introduction presentation on WAP. Check it out:
http://www.cfconf.org/cfun2k/cfspeakers.cfm
:-)
Oriole
In a message dated 09/22/2000 4:16:11 AM
Hi,
I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing. I have a site that is
going to be massive. Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load, and
crashed repeatedly. The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot of
data access going on. I am now developing this site in ASP,
Do we have to do this every week?
Stew
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With the exchange rates as they are 800 bucks is nearly a whole tank of gas
in the UK :))
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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 September 2000 15:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference
Yeah, but you probably didn't have to pay it out of
Good idea g
http://www.1010wins.com/homepage/viewstory.pl?r=20523l=level1
Howie
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From: "Steve Runyon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference
FYI to Allaire: check out the article in
by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.
anyone have the same problem ?
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From: Mark Warrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Thursday,
Heya, Terri,
OK, admitted CF_Novice coming out of normal lurk mode, but heck, here's
what comes to mind. You may have already thought of this but want to do
it differently, but...
What about setting the coordinator's registration process to be able to
only approve 1 student at a time? That way,
I hve a page that contains a form including many fields and a select
menu (combo box) containing information from a database, could (
this select) be actualized only when the database change? That is
I´m filling a order form that contains many information and one field
that contains a client
If their taxes are too high, that is their problem. That still doesn't
change the fact if you can't afford it you can't go.
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From: "Daye, Marianne" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference
I'm curious on this one. What set-up did you have? Where did the issues
arise? Did you cluster? CF Server and DB on same machine? Caching
strategies? DB Stored Procedures? What server settings?
No criticism, just genuinely interested as Allaire has done some analysis
which indicates a dual pIII
I'll second this...I'm curious too. As I have developed a site using CF +
SQL 7 over 4 clustered servers (2 x DB + 2 x web) and it works a treat.
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I have to disagree there are alot of sites that are very large and handle
more than 100K plus hits a week running Cold Fusion. I think, as stated in
another reply earlier, it depends on who the developer is. Junk code won't
scale while good code will. Take that however you want.
-
Yea, I've had a problem (at times) - not that it gave the wrong size, but
that it choked and said the image size was a bad value or something to that
effect. I don't remember the exact error message, but it seemed to be that
certian exact combinations of size and width together choked it. I got
Nice and simple!
At 12:30 AM 9/22/00 -0700, Mark Warrick wrote:
Peter - here's a clue to help you out:
In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the filename at the
beginning and ending point of the file. (!-- begin filename.cfm ---) That way,
when an error occurs, you
Ok let me say first that I LOVE COLDFUSION and i've used it for 4 years
now.
but i will say that i'm starting to become disilliusioned (sp) by the
service i've recieved
from allaire, it seems like everytime i try to buy one of there products not
only do i have to wait on hold for 20-50
I think the issue could be the 99% data driven. Not that I know the design
or anything. Ben Forta at the UKCFUG meeting specifically highlighted an
issue with a databases. He knew of one site where the application.cfm would
take 13 minutes to run first timeafter that, milliseconds. It was
In a message dated 09/22/2000 9:08:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go. That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental,
As a rule I try not to get involved in this particular discussion, but I
feel compelled to say that Kevin has hit the nail on the head.
Good CF code will scale well, but CF code won't. Same is true for any
language and platform - I have seen great ASP code, great Perl code, and
great JSP code -
This is flame-bait if I ever saw it.
I think I'm going to go post on a religious mailing list, "I heard your religion is
not as good as some of the other religions. What do you think?"
At 03:01 PM 9/22/00 +0100, Dean Alexandrou wrote:
I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major
Or go into your server settings go to debug and set the:
...Detail view - shows the time to process the page broken down
by all the individual pages that were used to compose the final page. (You
must restart ColdFusion Server in order for changes to this setting to take
effect.)
I had the same problem. Use cfx_image works perfectly.
http://www.intrafoundation.com/cf.html
Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga
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From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
search engine friendly?
Well...informally it is the City of Los Angeles's choice for a web development
platform, big enough? They get LOTS of hits even tho I've never seen the stats.
Gregory Harris
Los Angeles Information Technology Agency (ITA)
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I am not sure what
I guess I'll throw my experience into the mix as well.
We developed a ColdFusion a site that does well over 500,000 hits a day
running on a single web server and a single sql7 box. It is very, very data
intensive, and runs like a charm. As traffic picked up, we did run into
many issues, but
Why don't you purchase from buy.com or some other place? If you know
exactly what you want you can get it there with no hassles, other sales
pitches, etc...plus - it's cheaper...
Regards,
Howie
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From: "William J Wheatley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL
I would be interested.
Vance Duke
Cold Fusion Application Developer
i2 Technologies
(469) 357-4729
"Christopher
Use the HTML comment line !-- -- not the CF Comment line !--- ---
It makes a big difference in that you can not see a CF comment line.
Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Programmer
Heartland Internet
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From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday,
This seems like I am overlooking something obvious but maybe you all cna
help. Does anyone know a way to display all the text in a cfm file to the
browser?
We'd like to display text that includes ColdFusion and custom tag calls but
don't want to call the tags themselves.
For example the
any topic about a Coldfusion Open source ?
what about CFML especs ? any ideas ?
is it a crazy idea to have a GNU Coldfusion servers ?
JUANDRES
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Hi,
We had a Dual P3 600, 1gig+ ram as a cf box, running 4.5.1. The db server
was SQL Server 7 on a dual 600, 512 ram. No clustering. We have roughly 70
queries that cache data, 20-40 recordsets each. Some queries use stored
procedures, others do not. Each page runs a minimum of three
um
I should prefer not to use a CFX tag, because my hosting will charge me for
that.
thanks anyway,
Juandres
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From: Robert Everland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: cf_imagesize
I had the
Imagesize would give me this error quite a lot. It just wouldn't read
certain images. I couldn't see a pattern in it.
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This doesn't sound unusual to me at all. In true Allaire style, they've appealed to
the big companies with the fat pockets and left out the average folks who actually
build all this stuff.
This is one of the reaons why Fusioneers.com com exists today.
Hi Melanie,
The Forums package by Allaire is cludgy and slow and a pain in the ass to setup, but
once you get it up, it runs smoothly. And for the price, it's hard to compete.
But if you don't need all those security features that the Forums package has, I'm
sure there's plenty of people
You're asking that question on this list?
ColdFusion of course.
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How do I create a form that will browse for an image and then update that
image in the directory and the image name in the table?
Thanks,
Rich
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From: "Steve Pierce" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:40 PM
Yes - this is the fix that worked for me:
http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=1560Method=Full
Adrian Cooper.
Do you have the manual workaround or can you point me to a
There is no question, both ASP and CF will scale well. What you have to ask
yourself. What if you want to move beyond an NT platform. Will ASP move with
you?
There are CF sites that are doing a million hits per day. We are hosting
almost 500,000 CF hits a day right here. By you estimate your
We have the same problem thanks to fusebox thing.
I realize some spider doesn`t index de index.cfm page again, no matter what
fuseaction the url have, always is the same page: index.cfm.
we had to use directories with redirection and precalculated pages but we
dont know if this may work. :)
any
Hi Luis,
I'm sure with some creative javascript (which I'm not so good at) you could accomplish
the desired affect, but another thing you could do is this:
If the client catalog does not exist in the drop down list, then the user should be
able to add the new client catalog in a text box
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Oh my GAWD! I'd LOVE open source CF. Wouldn't surprise me if
Allaire has half a dozen software patents on various parts of it,
tho...
At least with an open source solution, bugs might get fixed in less
than six months time And it's not like
You would think it would be the reverse, the thinnest code that gets the job
done wins!...
-Adrian
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From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Many years ago I worked for a large Japanese Multinational and my manager,
who was (is) very respected there actually
I can tell you I just called on Friday about a problem. Allaire resolved the
problem in 24 hours, gave me links for updated code and drivers, and then
sent out a CD Rom to replace the defective one we had.
The service was fast, friendly and their answers solved the problem.
There is always room
Then you truly must be doing something wrong...
Our main site does over 1.2 million hits a week with extremely heavy
database and CF processing. The CF machine is a Dual PII 400, 512mb RAM and
a RAID array... The database hardware is identical, and is running SQL7.
That's it, no clustering or
Does anyone have the files missing from the book
CF3.0 Intranet Application Development Toolkit by JR Desborough?
If so, would you share them with me?
Thanks,
RIchard Kern
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David Hannum
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Guys,
We are having problems with CFFILE and CFINDEX for one of our sites. The
problem is that for both of these tags, a file of 0kb is created but nothing
is put into them (ie it's 0kb).
Does anyone have a fix/patch for this? Is is NT or CF that has the problem?
It doesn't appear to be a CF
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