Re: cfm bb

2005-07-13 Thread Stan Winchester
No offense taken, but don't you get it; I said we will give away MULTIPLE FREE licenses to those who help in the beta test. If we need to add features to be equal to phpbb, then we will see what we can do. I wish I could offer the forum for free, but I have to eat and so does my family, so

UK SMS providers for CF7

2005-07-13 Thread Kevin Roche
Hi, Can anyone recommend a UK SMS Bulk Agregator that supports the ColdFusion 7 SMS gateway? Kevin Roche Technical Director Objective Internet Ltd 01256 338 490 This message (including any attachments) contains

Re: UK SMS providers for CF7

2005-07-13 Thread John Beynon
hi Kevin, this one http://www.world-text.com/index.php seems to come up around the place. Orange has a list of aggregators at http://www.orange.co.uk/thirdparty/aggregators.html I've not explored any of this yet with CFMX7 but the world-text one was mentioned on Damon Coopers blog john On

list reverse function

2005-07-13 Thread Protoculture
does anyone have a listreverse udf kicking around or know of one? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client

Re: cfm bb

2005-07-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
I'm just trying to get beta testers, and responding to Dave the disruptor I think that was a typo. It's dave the Disruptured. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start

Re: list reverse function

2005-07-13 Thread Nick de Voil
does anyone have a listreverse udf kicking around or know of one? http://cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=51 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours

Re: retrieve ID from db insert

2005-07-13 Thread Aaron Rouse
I forgot to mention I have used their Ask Tom a few times and with good success. I usually end up finding something similar to my needs in there and try to apply it and if I get stumped then post to it, not sure if I have ever done a new thread in Ask Tom. On 7/12/05, daniel kessler [EMAIL

Re: Java class called from CF errors

2005-07-13 Thread James Holmes
One of the certs is the wrong one. You have two in your java keystore and one in CF; try to track down the other one. As a quick test you can replace the CF keystore with the file from your java install (back it up first!!). As an aside, you should change the keystore password. Also beware that

Re: CodFusion keystore

2005-07-13 Thread James Holmes
You did restart CF afterwards, didn't you? -Original Message- From: Taco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 11:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CodFusion keystore I finally got the finger prints to match - by going to the site and copying the cert to file and

RE: retrieve ID from db insert

2005-07-13 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
Two other good resources: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/ Jonathan Lewis' site -check out the oracle FAQs http://www.psoug.org/reference which has some great examples for more advanced db features and, of course, the oracle docco, esp. the Concepts guide, Application Developer's Guide -

RE: Query Problem.

2005-07-13 Thread James Smith
SELECT max(stockid) as stockid, data1, data2 FROM table HAVING data1 = 5 Unfortunately this is returning the following data StockID | Data1 | Data2 --- 3 | 5 | 2 Ie: the correct stockid and data1 but data2 from a diferent row!

cfmx7 hanging and then dead.

2005-07-13 Thread Tony Weeg
Hardware/Software: CFMX7 (no updaters), Windows 2000 Server, IIS5, SQL Server 2000 Issue: While doing backups or any DTS transactions on a SQL Server 2000 database. Attempt query from CFMX7 to SQL Server, it hangs, and hangs, and hangs, and then we have to restart the CF Server to get anything

Re: Show the code not the conversion.

2005-07-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Heh... You wee what happens when people don't follow my advice to the letter? :P My fault. I half copied your regex. I started to type my own in and thought, Hey, Isaac already did this, of course by then, I had already forgot to put the re in front of replace. :) On 7/12/05, S. Isaac

Account Question

2005-07-13 Thread ecreese
I am trying to change my email account on CF-talk. However when I do this it does not change the primary and just keeps adding the emails account to a list of the smae email account over and over again. i am now getting cf-talk mail to two differnt email addresses. HELP

Re: Storing and retrieving images from SQL Server 2000

2005-07-13 Thread Larry Lyons
Never too late to reverse a bad decision. Except when that decision was to step off the curb in front of a fast moving buss. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 Then again depending on the person, stepping in front of a fast moving buss would not be a bad decision. Stepping in front of a fast

Re: Account Question

2005-07-13 Thread James Holmes
I still have essentially the same problem. I managed the change my primary (somehow) but I get some mail to the new one, some to the old one and some to both. Mike, can you fix this? On 7/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to change my email account on CF-talk.

Re: Making a flash movie a link.

2005-07-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
Oh come on now, of course you can. Just wrap your movie in a div with an onclick. Parker, Kevin wrote: Not that I know of. You have to create a button the size of the movie in flash and apply the getURL command. I just looked in Flash Help and there are no parameters for creating a link. You

clearing connection pool/expiring connections

2005-07-13 Thread frederick valone
I am wondering if there is a way to programaitcally expire connections between coldfusion and oracle. We currently have to bounce our cf server everytime we take one of our linked databases down for service or make changes made to stored procedures or cf sees the state of the database as it

Re: Making a flash movie a link.

2005-07-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
It's funny how sometimes you can type up an entire reply without actually reading the entire message to which you are replying. Sorry for givin' you the come on now... Kevin, you had it in your post and I chose to fly right over it. --Ferg Ken Ferguson wrote: Oh come on now, of course you

CF and Zips

2005-07-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
Anybody know of a free cf utility (or asp or php for that matter) that will create a zip file of directories? The problem is that I've lost all remote access to my server except for FTP. I'm trying to pull all of my files down, but it keeps failing all over the place to the point where I can't

Re: CF and Zips

2005-07-13 Thread Massimo Foti
Anybody know of a free cf utility (or asp or php for that matter) that will create a zip file of directories? http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/cfc/tmt_zip/ There is also a UDF on cflib.org. Both requires CF MX or above Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver

Re: CF and Zips

2005-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
I remember a jsp example that did this back when I was learning jsp. On 7/13/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know of a free cf utility (or asp or php for that matter) that will create a zip file of directories? http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/cfc/tmt_zip/ There is also a UDF

RE: CF and Zips

2005-07-13 Thread Kerry
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=744 -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 July 2005 15:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Zips Anybody know of a free cf utility (or asp or php for that matter) that will create a zip file of directories? The problem is that

Calling .net data grid as a cfobject

2005-07-13 Thread SStewart
I'm running CFMX Standard. Is there any way to call the .net data grid as a cfobject? sas Scott A. Stewart, Web Application Developer Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 Chantilly, VA 20151 Phone: (703) 995-1737 Fax: (703) 834-5527 Many thousands

Re: cfm bb

2005-07-13 Thread Raymond Camden
On 7/13/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no offense but you can get rays for free, ya know what i mean? Yes, but compitition is good. As it stands, this announcement has made me encouraged to work a bit more on Galleon and add some new features. More Free Stuff == More Goodness. --

RE: Calling .net data grid as a cfobject

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Watts
I'm running CFMX Standard. Is there any way to call the .net data grid as a cfobject? I don't think you can do that in a practical way. You can do that from BlueDragon.NET very nicely, though. Frankly, though, you'd be better off building your own control to use with CFMX, I think. Dave

Pound Sign Replacement

2005-07-13 Thread Karl
I've got a compiled application that can be programmed to output ColdFusion code along with its regular output, writing CF templates that later run under CF 5.0. However if any of its regular output contains pound signs, CF throws an error when the template is executed. Both these examples

RE: clearing connection pool/expiring connections

2005-07-13 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
It must be possible because you can do it in the admin (Disable Connections checkbox in the datasource advanced settings page. All this stuff is accessible from the undocumented coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory object... which contains a DataSourceService object... which declares a

Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
New here - Flash-guy, also new to ColdFusion and SQL (CF-Newbies doesn't seem to be populated with anybody) (...and before I ask the question, I'm also looking for a cleaner way to write this, like not having to hard code the field column names) How do I insert each subsequent record from a

cfschedule task won't run

2005-07-13 Thread jacksonj
(CFMX 6.1 / Linux) I set up a scheduled task (in the CF admin) to hit Google. It will run the task if I hit the run now icon (next to the task in the CF admin, and the execution gets logged in the scheduler.log, as expected. However, it does not run automatically, and there are no entries in

RE: clearing connection pool/expiring connections

2005-07-13 Thread Tanguy Rademakers
frederic, try this: [snip] To programmatically dis/enable a datasource, use the following code: cflock name=serviceFactory type=exclusive timeout=10 cfscript factory = CreateObject(java, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory); ds_service = factory.datasourceservice; dsources =

RE: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Osbun
If you don't *need* this done with cfscript, try this. This is a copy and paste from something I'm putting together, with names changed to protect the innocent... cfquery name=qLessons datasource=coursesDB SELECT ID, Lesson, Required, Time FROM Lessons /cfquery

RE: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Well, I got it working, didn't realize I could use the Array access operator like I can in Flash and Javascript - gotta love ECMA. Here is the script, but how can I make it cleaner - i.e. get names of fields and then loop over those? cfscript lrXML = XmlNew(); lrXML.xmlRoot =

SOLVED: Re: Web service caling local CFC

2005-07-13 Thread Chris Peters
Would you mind giving us the URL to the details you mentioned below? - Chris Peters I found a thread in a forum explaining this was a bug in MX 6.1 (didn't know my associate was still using 6.1 as we develop for 7 now). It contained a link that explains in detail what Paul K. was trying to

Re: SOLVED: Re: Web service caling local CFC

2005-07-13 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Here ya go Chrisread last post: http://forums.devshed.com/archive/t-135261/cold-fusion-components-as-web-services Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Well, I got it working, didn't realize I could use the Array access operator like I can in Actionscript and Javascript (ECMA praise here?). Here is the script, but how can I make it cleaner so not as much is hardcoded - i.e. get names of all the fields and then loop over those x number of

Re: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Anthony Prato
queryname.columnlist is what you are looking for. use listlen() to set your upper bound. You may also want to check out cflib.org for some helpful functions like converting query rows to structs, structs to xml, etc. (there are tons of handy functions there) Anthony On 7/13/05, Merrill, Jason

Re: Purging client variables

2005-07-13 Thread Phillip Duba
Is there a way to disable this as we have written and scheduled our own tasks due to a clustered/mirrored environment, performance needs and just our general setup? We tried 0,0 for the time and that just ate up memory. Our client vars are stored in a database. Thanks, Phil The CF admin has a

RE: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Thanks very much - could you shoot me an example of usage of both columnlist and listlen() in this context? I'm new to ColdFusion and can't quite wrap my head around it. I tried: for (i = 1; i LTE #qLessons.RecordCount#; i = i + 1){ lrXML.lData.XmlChildren[i] =

Re: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Anthony Prato
i'm a bit rusty on my syntax, i've been working on some asp projects recently (yuk) try this out cfscript lrXML = XmlNew(); lrXML.xmlRoot = XmlElemNew(lrXML,lData); for (ii = 1; ii LTE qAllLessons.RecordCount; ii = ii + 1){ lrXML.lData.XmlChildren[ii] =

Re: Pound Sign Replacement

2005-07-13 Thread Barney Boisvert
I believe this will do it for double-quote delimited strings. You'll have to run it multiple times to catch strings that have multiple hashes in them. Then just flip the double quotes for single quotes and run it again to get the single-quote delimited strings. It might not be perfect, but it

Re: Purging client variables

2005-07-13 Thread Barney Boisvert
You can turn off the automatic flushing. I think you do it per configured DB-based client store. cheers, barneyb On 7/13/05, Phillip Duba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to disable this as we have written and scheduled our own tasks due to a clustered/mirrored environment,

How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Brian Yager
Hello all...I have been given a CF 4.5 system and have to create some new modules. We are using Windows 2000 Server. I am using an NT challenge when they come to the site. I want to be able to grab that information. I know that cgi.auth_user is the user name. I thought cgi.auth_pass was

starting CF with ASP.NET

2005-07-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
So, now that I have these great utilities to zip up my directories it'd be nice if the CF server was actually running. I've found some VB code I can use for this, but I don't know much about ASP.NET, so please forgive my ignorance, but how can I actually use this from an aspx page?

Re: How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Anthony Prato
I've never seen any way to do this and I'm pretty sure you can't. Even going right to active directory all you can do is set passwords, you can't return their value. Most of the time on intranets I only allow NT auth and just use the username in the queries. If only NTauth is active they should

Re: How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Brian Yager
The system I worked on before this one (MX6.1 Windows 2000 server) did this. When the user logged in using NT challenge, that info was passed into the application somehow. I was just figuring it was some function that was present in MX. I'll have to go into the code and see what was going on

RE: How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Watts
Hello all...I have been given a CF 4.5 system and have to create some new modules. We are using Windows 2000 Server. I am using an NT challenge when they come to the site. I want to be able to grab that information. I know that cgi.auth_user is the user name. I thought cgi.auth_pass

Re: How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Anthony Prato
I think I've seen a trick where you use an html form and then authenticate(programmatic, using headers or something, can't remember) so you have the password that way, but I've never seen the password grabbed from the NT auth popup. If you find that code please share it either on list or directly

RE: starting CF with ASP.NET

2005-07-13 Thread Matthew Small
I believe that is part of the code for a Window service itself (I could be wrong, I don't have a ton of experience writing services). I don't see anything in there that would actually do anything except start an as-of-yet-unknown service. What is the utility that you want to use that will zip

RE: starting CF with ASP.NET

2005-07-13 Thread Matthew Small
Sorry, I misunderstood the post. You should create a page that calls this function and pass in the name of the Service Process, if this method works as advertised. Something like //StartCF.aspx.vb //--- imports System.ServiceProcess; imports System... public void Page_Load

Re: cfm bb

2005-07-13 Thread Kevin Aebig
As long as you know that, more power to you! =] If I get some free time, I'd be happy to help out. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: cfm bb it is a

RE: How to authenticate using cf 4.5

2005-07-13 Thread Brian Yager
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by use the NT login info for your queries. Do you use Windows authentication against a SQL Server database from CF? I use the users NT login information to log into my databases. I have it set up when they change there password to also change it in the

cfform / cfgrid / pagination

2005-07-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Has anyone come up with a nice way to use cfgrid and have previous/next buttons to traverse large record sets? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and

Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
I would like as civilized discussion on the differences between .NET and ColdFusion MX7 Enterprise. I know all the arguments of free vs. licensing, ease of language, ect and I am not looking to rehash those. I would like a break down of features one has and the other doesn't, such as verity

RE: Simple XML cfscript question

2005-07-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Nevermind, after some headaches, I figured it out on my own: cfquery name=GetAll datasource=coursesDB SELECT * FROM Lessons /cfquery !-- the following query used to dynamically get the table names !-- cfquery name=GetTables datasource=coursesDB SELECT MSysObjects.Name

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Jacob
http://www.promoteware.com/Module/Article/ArticleView.aspx?id=10 -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Not to start a flame war. I would like as civilized discussion on the differences between .NET

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.promoteware.com/Module/Article/ArticleView.aspx?id=10 Seems a little MS Heavy. Also, look at the test notes... Test Notes: Each application was executed on identical Compaq Proliant servers; J2EE was tested on two Application Servers, one of

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
Not to pour gas on a flame war, but... Notice the extension on the following page. Think it is a completely objective article? Also note their business is selling .net web modules. Just a thought. On 7/13/05, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread dave
LOL, thats only a WEE bit biased! how bout this part of it, can I run it on whatever platform, hardware, software I or my client wants or am I stuck made to use only microsoft crap. ~Dave the disruptor~ A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient

Re: include udf in fusebox 4.1?

2005-07-13 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 7/12/05, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't. The INCLUDE verb in FB4.x is a fusebox thing, not a CF thing. More specifically, it's an include to a fuse inside the circuit you're currently operating, while CFINCLUDE is an include to an arbitrary CFM file on the server. If

Sorting QofQ in ORDER BY

2005-07-13 Thread Lincoln Milner
I've got a QofQ that I want to order on a character field. Only the field contains only numbers (don't ask), and the user wants it sorted as if they were numbers (1, 2, 3, ...) not strings (1, 10, 11, 2, 3, ...). Simple enough in database (Oracle in this case) since you can just TO_NUMBER() the

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Jacob
Okay.. to be balanced. http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/cf_aspnet06.html -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Not to start a flame war. LOL, thats only a WEE bit biased! how

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
Yes, but I consider it useful information, once the bias is considered. I'm am trying to find other similar sources with different biases. Your point is a good one; if that is the business you are in. I am looking at this more from an internal behind the firewall point of view. What are

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
To try to contribute something to the discussion, I have a few thoughts. Each of these application servers is a tool. Each can do pretty much the same thing as the others, although the syntax and methodologies differ. All can read from a db. All can create PDF files. All can index and search

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
No dice... this is referring to classic ASP. .NET is definitely as full-featured as CF. The point on language accessibility is well-taken though. -mark -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Not to start

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
There are two big choices in Web development- Java and .NET. Everything else is marginal in the corporate world, regardless of what the PHP folks say ;-). ...NET is the Microsoft camp, CFMX is part of the Java camp. That is the core difference. Does your organization believe in MSFT apps and

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Osbun
Go a little further into the article to page 8, where ColdFusion and ASP.NET are discussed. http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/cf_aspnet08.html Or maybe a little earlier in the article, where the author discusses ..NET, independent of the language used.

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread dave
actually, thats not a very good one either (suprisingly) for example on some of the examples where it addes extra lines for cfoutput, as most of use surround the body with 1 output not once every time its needed. heres my take on it all cfmx7 give you RAD develpment and if extra power is

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Rinehart
I spent a while doing .NET development, this summed up my experience: http://clearsoftware.net/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=3AD583EF-E081-2BAC-69DEECDEFD01C4BE -Joe On 7/13/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go a little further into the article to page 8, where ColdFusion and ASP.NET

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Stewart, Ryan
One of the main benefits that I think ColdFusion has over .NET is the fact that it is a Macromedia product. Macromedia is (for now) the undisputed king of Rich Internet Applications. With Flex and Flash defining the landscape of this part of the internet, having a backend that is almost

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
Ah... sorry - I didn't see that... good examples there. -Original Message- From: Matt Osbun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Not to start a flame war. Go a little further into the article to page 8, where ColdFusion and

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
Technically, that's not the right comparison. ..NET vs Java makes more sense, as they are both comparable runtime platforms with their own strengths and weaknesses. I think you mean the difference between ASP.NET and ColdFusion. It's not easy to compile a list of everything each platform can

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Damien McKenna
Never being ones to not paint lofty dreams of future products, but Microsoft is obviously intending their Avalon GUI system to take over from web applications in that it can be used to develop RIAs. Damien -Original Message- From: Stewart, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
And while we're on the subject, asp.net 2.0 is due out this november, I hear. They say it's supposed to cut down coding by 70%, which, by my calculations, should bring it down closer to cf's level. I'm no advocate, but I will be evaluating it around october to see what it can do. -nathan

Re: Sorting QofQ in ORDER BY

2005-07-13 Thread Jon Gunnip
If you are on CF7, then you can use Cast() in the query of queries to convert a column to a specific type. For example, cfquery SELECT Cast(StringColumn as Integer) as NumberColumn FROM MyQuery /cfquery You might not be able to due the order by in the same statement. You might need an

ColdFusion Birthday

2005-07-13 Thread Connie DeCinko
Are there any live Breeze presentations of the birthday party today? Constanty Connie DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona http://www.lonejet.com/ www.LoneJet.com ~|

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Matthew Small
Ian, you need to get a balanced view from some people who have extensive experience writing ASP.NET, and who aren't religious about MS vs OpenSource. Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Nathan Strutz

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread dave
They say it's supposed to cut down coding by 70%, oh great, so that means you will be trusting m$ to write more of your code behind the scene? I thought ppl learned that lesson with frontpage, so I take it they will just hide the code from you this time around so we can't criticize it. Can

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
Now I must say that is very well spoken. -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Not to start a flame war. Ian, you need to get a balanced view from some people who have extensive experience

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Adrocknaphobia
But only run on windows within InternetExplorer on longhorn... with 64 bit processors when its not raining... -Adam On 7/13/05, Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never being ones to not paint lofty dreams of future products, but Microsoft is obviously intending their Avalon

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Charlie Griefer
your willingness to always look at things openly and objectively never ceases to amaze... :) On 7/13/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They say it's supposed to cut down coding by 70%, oh great, so that means you will be trusting m$ to write more of your code behind the scene? I thought

RE: ColdFusion Birthday

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Watts
Are there any live Breeze presentations of the birthday party today? They will be shown at your local user group, I think. For understandable reasons, they don't want thousands of folks just coming into a single Breeze meeting room. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Damien McKenna
But only run on windows within InternetExplorer on longhorn... with 64 bit processors when its not raining... Rain excluded, that'll be low-end by the time it launches - AMD are already prepping 64bit Sempron's (their current low-end CPU). -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer -

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
How important is rapid prototyping vs a detailed software development plan? We are a small group of programmers in an environment that does not yet have a fixed development methodology. Projects are currently assigned to an individual programmer to do with as he/she best can. So, I would say

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
We currently do a mix, we have one Visual Basic guy, two ColdFusion, and a half/half guy. Until recently, the main purpose of this department was to create reports and analyze data primarily with Crystal Reports and a product called QUIZ. In just the last couple of years, we have started to

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
Can anybody point to any useful metrics that support the RAD aspect of ColdFusion over ASP.NET. It's one I've always felt true and I did do one comparison back in the ASP vs. CF4.5 days. It would be nice to have something more current and independent. -- Ian Skinner Web

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread dave
hehe I have no problem looking at things openly so long as they arent micro$oft, they burned that bridge a long time ago. But seriously, if you are a .net developer and m$ comes in and says they will reduce the code by 70% wouldnt that seriously worry you? Maybe you should refresh your memory

Re: Purging client variables

2005-07-13 Thread Phillip Duba
Barney, thanks. i'm looking at the settings now and i'm guessing it's the Purge data for clients that remain unvisited for X days checkbox? Not sure if this is the correct one to disable or not. And how does that relate to the purge on the client storage page (in MX7). Thanks, Phil You can

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
quote (cfhttp, cffile, cfftp, flash forms, cfchart, cfdump, cfreport, cfdocument, flash remoting, omg, where to stop? ). /quote Is it fair and unbiased to say that it is easier to do these things in ColdFusion then ASP.NET? The Ben Forta article that was referenced earlier gave some good

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
The determining factor in RAD is going to be your proficiency with each tool, not necessarily the tool itself. I have heard from many CF/ASP.NET guys will tell you that given an equal amount of skill between the two tools, they can create the same app in the same amount of time with either tool.

Re: Purging client variables

2005-07-13 Thread Barney Boisvert
Yeah, that's the setting I was referring to. Disable purging on all but one of your servers and you'll be set. I don't run CF7, so I don't know about the global purge option. Surely the docs mention it somewhere? The local docs have a pretty good search thingy built in. cheers, barneyb On

RE: cfschedule task won't run

2005-07-13 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Jamie, (CFMX 6.1 / Linux) I set up a scheduled task (in the CF admin) to hit Google. It will run the task if I hit the run now icon (next to the task in the CF admin, and the execution gets logged in the scheduler.log, as expected. However, it does not run automatically, and there are no

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
dave wrote: hehe But seriously, if you are a .net developer and m$ comes in and says they will reduce the code by 70% wouldnt that seriously worry you? Yeah, the whole magical thing they do, translating an ASP.NET page to a class, and the viewstate hidden form field thing they create does

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Clint Tredway
Here is how I see it. If the majority of your developers know CF, then stick with that. It costs more (both time money) to learn .Net than it does to learn CF. .Net may be free to put on the server, but training and tools (VS Studio) both cost alot more than tools training for .Net. my 2cents

Re: ColdFusion Birthday

2005-07-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Connie DeCinko wrote: Are there any live Breeze presentations of the birthday party today? The party in Delft only had a bbq and lots of beer, no presentations ... Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient

RE: cfform / cfgrid / pagination

2005-07-13 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Michael, Has anyone come up with a nice way to use cfgrid and have previous/next buttons to traverse large record sets? I've seen a couple of pretty neat AJAX/Grids that loaded records on the fly. Check out these demos of the Open Source RICO project: http://openrico.org/livegrid.page

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Watts
Yeah, the whole magical thing they do, translating an ASP.NET page to a class, and the viewstate hidden form field thing they create does scare me. It does seem to work, but the way they pull it off is just kinda... creepy. You mean like the way CF pages get compiled as servlets, and

RE: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
Well, unless you can get a non-profit/education break for Visual Basic Studio. We can get either IDE for about the same amount. Training is an issue, but how does that play out long term. Assuming turnover will be replaced with candidates versed in the chosen platform. How many upgrades

Re: Not to start a flame war.....

2005-07-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
Ian Skinner wrote: quote (cfhttp, cffile, cfftp, flash forms, cfchart, cfdump, cfreport, cfdocument, flash remoting, omg, where to stop? ). /quote Is it fair and unbiased to say that it is easier to do these things in ColdFusion then ASP.NET? Yep. reading/writing a file is generally

RE: Sorting QofQ in ORDER BY - RESOLVED

2005-07-13 Thread Lincoln Milner
That did it! I missed the Cast() discussion in the new docs. Good thing we just upgraded a few weeks ago. Or I'd be really mad right now. Thanks for the tip! -Original Message- From: Jon Gunnip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:

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