Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
An RFC for posting, lol. Looks like I will have to scroll for more, and more, and more:-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains infor

Re: Search-function on website

2006-09-05 Thread Auke van Leeuwen
>If you used Verity in CF 5, did you use the K2 engine or the VDK engine? The >K2 engine is much better in many respects, and if I recall correctly, CFMX >6.x uses K2 instead of VDK. I don't realy recall any specific choice that I made. K2 sounds the most familiar, but that may be because it's us

Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
What lists are these? "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the e

Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I think that in is most cases, I am reading on my Blackberry and for long posts, you get a scroll for more, and more just to read a reply... I think it is a preference, got a to love a top v bottom preference! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond,

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread James Holmes
The Object Viewer gives [empty string] For the same class. On 9/6/06, Dan Plesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this work for you? > > > > > 09/06 00:09:44 Error [web-17] - The selected method getClass was not > found.Either there are no methods with the specified method name and > argument

Re: Google chat down?

2006-09-05 Thread Richard Dillman
yea just log out and back in. should take care of it. On 9/5/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did - I logged into gmail again and now it's ok. > > On 9/5/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any other gmail users see this message where thier quick contact list > shoul

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
Does this work for you? 09/06 00:09:44 Error [web-17] - The selected method getClass was not found.Either there are no methods with the specified method name and argument types, or the method getClass is overloaded with arguments types that ColdFusion can't decipher reliably. If this is a Java

RE: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Henderson
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > I know Thunderbird etc does this out of the box, and it > probably does make sense the way we read etc, but does anyone > else find a reply after a message damn annoying?! Then Dave Watts responded > No, it's just you. I totally agree with Dave but that is jus

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
The reason is because to the best of my knowledge, there was never a file called from the clientside. The Eolas problem only affects IE and because of that, the file that's included from CFIDE only gets called in IE. !k -Original Message- From: Mark Leder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Arden Weiss
>Hey all, > >We are having some dns issues where some ISP's can resolve our domain and >some can't. Something about nameserver records pointing to multiple >servers. It would be super duper if some folks could try to hit our domain, >and then just reply to the list "yes" or "no" and what isp y

Re: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Arden Weiss
One added point -- on voids and credit transactions the previous transaciton ID is sent to the gateway via variable x_ref_trans_id... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date Co

Re: CFForm Integer Validation Allowing Commas

2006-09-05 Thread Justin Holzer
How is "1,235" considered an integer? I know that ColdFusion is a lossely typed language, but what CF programmer is writing code like ? Not only is it wrong to validate numeric input with commas, it's counter-intuitive, illogical, and just plain insecure. If the programmer wishes the user to b

Re: CF Built in web server mime types

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Jim Wright wrote: > Where are mime types defined in the built-in > web server? Never mind...found it C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\mime.types ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to

Re: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Arden Weiss
>http://www.authorize.net/support/AIM_guide.pdf > >Everything you need to know about integration is contained in there. > Well, not quite everything -- some added thoughts for your consideration. There also is a "card-present" pdf file on their site if you are needing to do a point-of-sale app wh

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Mandel
What about this? http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1076 Pretty much the same, no? Mark On 9/6/06, Dan Plesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just made two examples. > > See what java got under the hood > > http://www.cfide.org/objectViewer.cfm > > Just put your url in and just the name of the clas

Re: Coldfusion serial number lost

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
Massimo Gianadda wrote: > Sorry for the OT, but I'm really frustrated, > I have purchased Coldfusion from an Italian reseller, unfortunately CD with > serials has been kept away by a courier who retired > a server and are lost. If you REGISTERED the product with Adobe, hey *MIGHT* be able to help

Fusion Reactor issues

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
I'm running CFMX 7.02 (standalone) and the latest version of Fusion Reactor. Sometimes, someone will do something on my server, because of poorly written code by yours truly, that will suck up huge amounts of memory and fusion reactor will start killing requests. However, sometimes, during this

CF Built in web server mime types

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
I'm running into a problem with the MX 7 Developer edition that I run locally and I'm fairly sure it is a mime type issue (IE is not recognizing a htc file). Where are mime types defined in the built-in web server? ~| Introduc

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread Kris Jones
> Yes would mean No, go figure ... women. > I have no idea why someone would say cfinvoke is the answer. When the answer > screams decompiler. Mostly because I just don't have your MadSkillz, man. Cheers, Kris ~| Introducing the

Re: OT: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>I know Thunderbird etc does this out of the box, and it probably does make >sense the way we read etc, but does anyone else find a reply after a message >damn annoying?! No. ;-) Personally, I think it *does* make more sense the way we read, to first read the text that the email is replying to.

Re: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
No, @ videotron.ca serving mostly the province of Quebec. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~~

RE: Exception reporting

2006-09-05 Thread Dawson, Michael
Use CFSaveContent to capture the CFDump in a variable. Then, use #htmlEditFormat()# to escape all of the content when storing it in the DB. Oh, I strongly, STRONGLY, suggest looking at CFQueryParam. M!ke -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: T

Coldfusion serial number lost

2006-09-05 Thread Massimo Gianadda
Sorry for the OT, but I'm really frustrated, I have purchased Coldfusion from an Italian reseller, unfortunately CD with serials has been kept away by a courier who retired a server and are lost. I have talked with Italian support with no luck, I have of course produced the invoice (as required)

Exception reporting

2006-09-05 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
Hello all, Up until recently, I¹ve been using a setup to email me any exception reports, with cfdumps of all of the interesting scopes. It¹s helpful, but as I rework my app I¹ve building in a bug tracking function. Right now, when the onError method in application.cfc is called, it: 1. checks to

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Leder
So why will cfchart work without the per site cfide mapping when viewed in FF, but not in IE, and, why did this break going from 7.01 to 7.02? Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: C

Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Larry Lyons
>Josh Nathanson wrote: >> So, on the average, it would seem putting the reply at the top would save >> the most >scrolling time. > >Of course, there won't be much scrolling if the person replying has >properly trimmed the previous message to highlight the particular >question or subject that th

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
I just made two examples. See what java got under the hood http://www.cfide.org/objectViewer.cfm Just put your url in and just the name of the class http://www.cfide.org/RemoteObjectViewer.cfm Just hitting submit is fine too! ~~

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> > this has always been the case > > Show me documentation ... I don't know from documentation, but Snake is right - you've always needed a /CFIDE URL mapping for certain features of the product to work, starting with CFFORM's JavaScript back in the CF 2-3 timeframe (I forget which). Dave Watt

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Leder
>> this has always been the case Show me documentation... Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Updater 2 problems... O trust me, I know. =] I always assumed that IIS had glo

RE: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
No - Onetel And this is your DNS traversal .. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/traversal.ch?domain=www.igigi.com&type=A Jenny -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 22:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: can you resolve this domain? Hey all, W

Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Josh Nathanson wrote: > So, on the average, it would seem putting the reply at the top would save the > most scrolling time. Of course, there won't be much scrolling if the person replying has properly trimmed the previous message to highlight the particular question or subject that they are r

Re: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Josh Nathanson
Like you, I personally prefer the reply at the top, so I don't have to scroll down unless I need to review the OP. Usually the subject line is enough to tell me what I'm reading about, so most of the time I don't need to review the OP, but I do always want to read the reply. So, on the averag

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I had the pleasure of sitting in your session at Cfun this > year and as always you did a suburb job of speaking and > getting your topic across. I have always found the Speakers > from your company to be some of the best in the industry. Well, thank you very much! There were plenty of great

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Hatz
Dave, I had the pleasure of sitting in your session at Cfun this year and as always you did a suburb job of speaking and getting your topic across. I have always found the Speakers from your company to be some of the best in the industry. Question for you, do you guys offer a advanced training cla

RE: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I know Thunderbird etc does this out of the box, and it > probably does make sense the way we read etc, but does anyone > else find a reply after a message damn annoying?! No, it's just you. Here are some relevant links. The RFC in question (yes, there is one!): http://tools.ietf.org/html/rf

Re: OT: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall
I'm still trying to figure out why gmail puts my signiture at the bottom of the reply even though I'll br posting above it... On 9/5/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know Thunderbird etc does this out of the box, and it probably does make > sense the way we read etc, bu

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> We have 1 IIS server with each client having their own > virtual server, www.client1.com and www.client2.com. Then the easiest thing to do is probably this: 1. Install CF Enterprise using Multiserver option. 2. During the install, don't connect CF to any external web server. 3. After the insta

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Hatz
We have 1 IIS server with each client having their own virtual server, www.client1.com and www.client2.com. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances

OT: Replying after the message

2006-09-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I know Thunderbird etc does this out of the box, and it probably does make sense the way we read etc, but does anyone else find a reply after a message damn annoying?! No fingers at anyone just a gripe. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> What I want to do is set up different CF instances for each > of our bigger clients. I was looking to separate out the CF > instances so that they each will have their own memory > allocation and resources, so as one of the instances begins > to slow down, it doesn't take the other CF instan

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Hatz
Dave, What I want to do is set up different CF instances for each of our bigger clients. I was looking to separate out the CF instances so that they each will have their own memory allocation and resources, so as one of the instances begins to slow down, it doesn't take the other CF instances with

RE: Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 ru nning on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I am looking for more resources on setting up multiple > instances of CF7 on IIS6. I have read through the docs at > Adobe, but I was looking for more resources. I have set up > CF Server many times before, but always as a single stand > alone instance. > > I am looking for a good step b

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Indeed, it is simply awful. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for

Re: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Les Mizzell
>>> http://www.igigi.com Yes - bellsouth.net ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.

Good Documentation on Setting up Multiple Instances of CF7 running on IIS

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Hatz
I am looking for more resources on setting up multiple instances of CF7 on IIS6. I have read through the docs at Adobe, but I was looking for more resources. I have set up CF Server many times before, but always as a single stand alone instance. I am looking for a good step by step document

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
Its definitely a big fileset situation. Ugh. :o( I appreciate the help. Rey Jim Wright wrote: > Jim Wright wrote: > >>This should only copy changed >>files (although I haven't tested that much with the FTP...the local copy >>definitely only copies over changed files, but when I'm doing the F

re: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Jeff Garza
No (Qwest Comms, Tempe Arizona) Original Message > From: "Josh Nathanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:44 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: OT: can you resolve this domain? > > Hey all, > > We are having some dns issues where some ISP's can resolve our d

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Jim Wright wrote: > This should only copy changed > files (although I haven't tested that much with the FTP...the local copy > definitely only copies over changed files, but when I'm doing the FTP, > I've generally made a lot of changes, so I'm not positive.) > Rey, As I was throwing out some

RE: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Crow T Robot
No - Bayring (worldPath) > -Original Message- > From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT: can you resolve this domain? > > no - nc.rr.com > > Josh Nathanson wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > We are having some dns is

RE: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
No - Sasktel / BigPipe (Canuck ISP) !k -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: can you resolve this domain? No - Uniserve.com (Canadian ISPcovers whole country) Victoria, BC Canada Bryan S

Re: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Josh Nathanson
Egads. So far, so not good. Thanks for the responses. -- Josh - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Re: can you resolve this domain? > No - Uniserve.com (Canadian ISPcovers whole country

Re: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
yes Bresnan communications - Original Message - From: "Josh Nathanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: OT: can you resolve this domain? > Hey all, > > We are having some dns issues where some ISP's can resolve our domain and > some

Re: OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
no - nc.rr.com Josh Nathanson wrote: > Hey all, > > We are having some dns issues where some ISP's can resolve our domain and > some can't. Something about nameserver records pointing to multiple > servers. It would be super duper if some folks could try to hit our domain, > and then just re

Re: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Bryan Stevenson
No - Uniserve.com (Canadian ISPcovers whole country) Victoria, BC Canada Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~~~

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
Here the presentation and data are mixed with business logic in the stored procedures not COM objects, think of each stored procedure as CF5 page. Logic mixed with data and with some small presentation logic customizations (there is rather little HTML in the stored procedures, so its not as bad

OT: Editor Layer Based ?

2006-09-05 Thread Daniel Hikel
Hello, I am searching for a wysiwyg editor which is based on layers? At the end I want to save every layer with type, ... in database. Did anyone already this? Thank you very much in advance. Daniel ~| Introducing the

Re: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Jake Churchill
cox = no, but you already said that Dawson, Michael wrote: > No worky for me. I'm in a hotel with a VPN into my university. The > university uses SBC to get to the internet. > > -Original Message- > From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:43

RE: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Dawson, Michael
No worky for me. I'm in a hotel with a VPN into my university. The university uses SBC to get to the internet. -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: can you resolve this domain? Hey all, We

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
The problem is the application was originally developed like 5 years ago and then upgraded along - I only came along few days ago - thus I am definitely not part of the "original team". If you thought the app you are working on is tough to debug, think of me - we can always change places :) TK

OT: can you resolve this domain?

2006-09-05 Thread Josh Nathanson
Hey all, We are having some dns issues where some ISP's can resolve our domain and some can't. Something about nameserver records pointing to multiple servers. It would be super duper if some folks could try to hit our domain, and then just reply to the list "yes" or "no" and what isp you are

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Dawson, Michael
This reminds me of a project, several years ago, where we webified some SAP information. The VB programmer "needed" to put the HTML in the ..DLLs and it was a total pain in the ass to make any changes. They also insisted that ASP pages were the only method of consuming the COM objects. This is h

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Snake
Lets hope no-one outside your original team ever has to work on this application. Snake -Original Message- From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 21:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more The SQL server stored procedure

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Jim McAtee
..com's are s 1999 - Original Message - From: "Doug Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: I am s pissed > You know what is weird...The site is already online!! I thought it took > awhile, especially at networksolutions.

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
Drop down list are handled rather with elegance (nothing complex is meant here by elegance) - SQL passes in the column name the caption and in the actual field value the name of the stored procedure that is used to populate the drop down. TK - Original Message - From: "Jim Wright" <[EM

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Jeff Garza
I have to agree... sounds to me like Tom has a lot of SQL DBAs in his organization, and they effectively rule the roost. Lots of folks running around with hammers and everything looks like a nail. Original Message > From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, S

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
I am not saying I like the SQL server as the driving force with CF as just presentation tire - I am just looking over this rather strange solution for myself (as well as many other members of this mailing list) and I am trying to figure out what are good and what are bad points about using it.

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Rey Bango wrote: > Awesome. Thanks for the explanation Jim. I'll definitely take a look at > this later. > If you do decide to use this method, you will probably need this reference... http://ant.apache.org/manual/OptionalTasks/ftp.html ~

Re: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Robert Munn
Why not write a package that does it? You even have a name for it- Peg! >Does anyone know of code that can match formal names, such as >"Michael" with their less formal equivalents, such as "Mike." I was >starting to code this but stopped after realizing that there were >thousands of these nicknam

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Coldfusion
Probably a placeholder or could in fact be a domain squatter -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I am s pissed You know what is weird...The site is already online!! I thought it took awhile,

Re: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
Well a little screen scraping on Mike's link will get you most of the way there. From that point it's one join away. That's mostly automated. After the initial data import, it will be manually tweaking data in a simple crud app. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 9/5/06, Andy Matthews <[EM

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Tom Kitta wrote: > On SQL server there are 1000's of stored procedures which are used to > display form, validate, update, delete etc. Essentialy the form building is > done on SQL server without even looking at any CF code. CF is a black box > which rarely changes while 99% of development is i

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
You know what is weird...The site is already online!! I thought it took awhile, especially at networksolutions. Go Figure Doug - Original Message - From: "Andy Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: RE: I am s pissed > Ju

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
You are right, you pass every time the name of the user that is accessing the stored procedure (your last paragraph). TK - Original Message - From: "Brad Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Ian Skinner
I just don't think you are getting many takers here Tom K. If this works for you, by all means, full steam ahead. I just don't think many of us are going to follow along. Most of us can think of just as easy ways to separate the tiers that would allow a wider group of skill sets to be applied

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread D F
Interesting idea... object viewer. But how would that differ from a straight cfdump of the object? >Even better is a Object Viewer. I asked for this for CF 7 as the standard >way coldfusion produces dumping output for java objects but it's another no >go. So now coldfusion users are left with a

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Brad Wood
Security is provided by SQL security stored procedures etc. I'm not sure how this would work. Surely you don't mean database permissions. Is every user to your web site set up as a user in the database. CF always connects to the database as the same user doesn't it? Maybe you mean that you

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
At this place developers don't know much about CF since they don't need it - they write templates in SQL without worrying about CF - they call it "black box". As for application level security, logic flow, and business logic - its all SQL - CF doesn't do any of that. CF is just there to process

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
Actually its easy, if you want to change the look and feel of the whole application you don't touch tables, just change CF presentation server. As to changing some basic properties of every form, you just modify SQL as if you were modifying CF template (you modify SQL template instead). TK ---

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
To build sample form with first name last name and address SQL server would send the following to CF presentation engine using tomForm_form stored procedure, with pre-populated data for myself: First NameLast NameAddressPostal Code_txt6ID_hidden TomKitta

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Brad Wood
That would definitely be a two-tiered system. With all of your business logic in the database, I'm not sure how well that would scale. If all your database did was save and retrieve data, it would be easier to accommodate more users by simple adding some more web servers, but if your database sta

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Robert Munn
I disagree that most developers are SQL experts, but that is a separate discussion. As to your specific question about using CF as a presentation engine, that is a large part of what CF apps do. However, you need additional code in your application to control logic flow, check application-leve

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
So if you want to change the interface, you need to change the table structure? Wow... And you're handling your form validations on the SQL end? I'm sure you could do it faster and better within CF. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
SQL programmers don't touch presentation - no one really touches it - its CF that does typesetting - its automatic as far as HTML form formatting is concerned. Thus I said CF as a presentation engine - CF does the presentation of data spitted out by SQL server based on some settings passed in t

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
The SQL server stored procedure returns: single row which is not HTML - CF builds HTML based on that single row result set. The data contained in SQL resultset has things like: 'User Name_txt50' - means display a field with caption 'User Name' that is a text field with 50 chars length. It can al

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
I was just going to mention that you could get pretty creative with XSL templates if XML is the main idea, but I didn't get that vibe from your post. I actually know of a company that uses this method quite well, but they also have a *large* development staff. !k -Original Message- From:

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
The fact that you have SQL experts working on your presentation layer seems pretty crazy in that they aren't trained nor have the right toolset to be doing it properly. Graphic Artists / Web designers and even programmers are better suited to handle the user interaction. IMHO Data experts should s

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I am wondering whatever anyone seen/ has opinion about the > following system ... Does "yecch" count as an opinion? Seriously, though, what exactly is being returned by SQL Server? XML documents? Recordsets? Strings containing HTML? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread John Blayter
IMHO... Use the systems for what they are designed for. Sure SQL server can generate HTML but is that the best way to maintain it? The thought of having to sort through thousands of stored procs instead of some kind of file system to make a presentation change just sounds like my personal version o

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>keep in mind then that they can paste anything they want into FCKeditor Sure, but in general, they just don't want to. I mean not in a CMS used by users who are brought out in a rash as soon as they see an HTML tag ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags;

ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
I am wondering whatever anyone seen/ has opinion about the following system: All information that is presented on a HTML form to end user is build with information supplied by SQL Server stored procedure. I mean the data that makes the form + information how form should look like - information

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
>> I don’t want them dragging and resizing images in the editor because it will just confuse them. Exact, IMHO, all those HTML editors around are just too poweful for the hoi polloi. This is why I've developed my own. Images should not been inserted in the HTML editor, but in the CMS. Each pag

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Just wait. The person bidding might default. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I am s pissed No, it was just a regular type name I suppose. gobuddy.com the auction is now at 3,800.00 --

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
GOING ONCE...GOING TWICESOLD!!! for 4,500.00 TOsomeone other than me :( - Original Message - From: "Doug Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:25 PM Subject: Re: I am s pissed > No, it was just a regular type name I suppose. gobuddy.

RE: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Yes, but they wouldn’t have pasted images. They wouldn’t have thought about it. But its not using FCK now so oh well. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006

Re: debugging my chat app

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
I wrote three chat apps and one multi-user game. 1. Flash 2. Flex 3. Java Applet all with jabber. On 9/5/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd love it if a whole bunch of folks would come into my chat room and > hang out for a couple minutes. > > http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
No, it was just a regular type name I suppose. gobuddy.com the auction is now at 3,800.00 - Original Message - From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: RE: I am s pissed > Was it something CF related, as I have tons of CF r

Re: hssf poi (generating excel) and norton internet worm protecti on

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
Looks to me like all my crazy versions work egually well now. Must have been something else, but nice call. Even this crazy combo workBook.setSheetName(0, "My First Sheet",workBook.ENCODING_UTF_16); uglyStyle.setFillBackgroundColor(40); workBook.getSheet("My First Sheet").getRow(0).getCell(0).set

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Snake
Was it something CF related, as I have tons of CF related domains -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 20:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: I am s pissed I hate all these auctions for domain names. I was after a domain that expired and

RE: debugging my chat app

2006-09-05 Thread Turetsky, Seth
I was in, but got booted out and can't get back in. "Initialization failed" -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: debugging my chat app I'd love it if a whole bunch of folks would come into my chat

Re: OT: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Jake Churchill
domainnamessuck.com? Doug Brown wrote: > I hate all these auctions for domain names. I was after a domain that expired > and was being auctioned at snapnames, I had a limit at what I would pay and > it was 1,000.00 and the damn thing is already up to 2,600.00 > Oh well, I guess the search contin

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