On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 16:49 pm, you said:
> Out of interest what criteria did you use to trap this virus
> specifically?
I don't.
I bin any .exe|pif|scr etc. attachements at the mail server.
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It shows an option to import from Communicator 4.x
Claude Schneegans wrote:
>>>"Do not download attachments over []k" and filled it in with 50.
>>>
>>>
>
>Now this is a good tool. I know I must get a new email reader, My Netscape is too old
>now.
>I haven't seen such a tool in NT7.
>Do yo
>>"Do not download attachments over []k" and filled it in with 50.
Now this is a good tool. I know I must get a new email reader, My Netscape is too old
now.
I haven't seen such a tool in NT7.
Do you know if this Thunderbird is able to import mail files from NT4?
~~~
Claude wrote:
>Not only many of them do it, but even some of them filter the outgoing
messages.
And its mighty simple to do, I might add, at least for the tools I use.
I added outbound scanning to inbound not too long ago, as I have the
processing power to spare and these days its better saf
>
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:18 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>
>
>
>>>It's easy, turn off the Aut
>>so I hardly see why its now their problem.
Not only many of them do it, but even some of them filter the outgoing messages.
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Out of interest what criteria did you use to trap this virus
specifically?
Thanks
Kola
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From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2003 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 15:18
>>I use a program called epropter.
I use an equivelent service on Internet now. But it still takes the time to chec
k hundreds of messages to be deleted.
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From: Claude Schneegans
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages
Please stop giving advice on "how not being infected", the problem is N
om/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf
==
If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
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From: Claude Schneegans
To: CF-Talk
Sent:
well i wish aunt jamamima would personally come cover my pancakes with her
maple goodness too but it aint gunna happen.
So is it your isp's responsibility to filter all of your emails? Your the
one in ppls address books, so I hardly see why its now their problem.
Welcome to the web:)
anyways
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 15:18 pm, you said:
> I just wanted to know if others here are receiving about 250 copies a day
> of that virus?
Maybe 5 or 10.
I've just set up a rule to bin 'em.
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>> The only way you could not receive them, would be that your ISP
deletes them.
Or, your ISP comes out of the stone age and offers IMAP servers instead
of just POP3 accounts. Then, you have a much faster mail interface
(only headers are downloaded initially), and you can send spam and
no broadband internet service in your area claude?
still on a modem, i supps? i would be pissed too!
tw
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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>I am
>>I am still using Microsoft Outlook 2002 and am no longer receiving them.
Ingenuousness is another particularity of Outlook users ;-))
You "don't see them", because McAfee puts them "out of your look" ;-))
But you still RECEIVE them. If you had a modem you could still see it busy for h
ours
>>this is a screen cap of the top of my new outlook 2003
check out how it prevents the auto-download of mikes banner
So what ? If you receive a message with a 150k virus in it, you can "block" it,
but you've got to receive it first before you can block it. My problem is not wi
th blocking ima
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 15:09 pm, you said:
> You can have anything
> installed on your machine, Norton, McAfee, the FBI or the Salvation Army,
> they will definitely prevent your machine from being infected
It's so far from 'definitely' I can't begin to start.
Running an (up to date) virus s
(SP3).
-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages
Pl
: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages
Please stop giving advice on "how not being infected"
>>It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages
Please stop giving advice on "how not being infected", the problem is NOT here.
I just wanted to know if others here are receiving about 250 copies a day of tha
t virus?
If yes, it is probably that the virus is able to get
>>It is easy to turn off scripting support in Outlook.
Sure it's easy, but I've got to believe it is still too hard for many people.
This morning I opened my mail, 253 messages, among which 123 were the same &^%$
150k virus.
18.5 meg of virus!
The question is not that it is possible, eas
>>NO VIRII
But you still RECEIVE them, don't you? This is what I started this thread, about
RECEIVING virus, not getting infected.
You can have anything installed on your machine, Norton, McAfee, the FBI or the
Salvation Army, they will definitely prevent your machine from being infected, b
>>are viruses targeting outlook because it's vulnerable or because it's popular?
Let's say it's both. then there is no more discussion ;-)
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>>You would think that after 3, 4, 5, 20 virii make their way to your
Outlook inbox and infect your machine that you would take the time
necessary to learn how to protect yourself,
First I don't use Outlook, second, I didn.t get infected.
Again my problem is the volume of garbage I receive
>>MS has made this a priority and is doing a decent job:
Yes, they've learned from their mistakes. Unfortunately, it will take years befo
re we can see the beneficts.
Too many people do not take care of updating, or setting parameters or options.
Agreed, removing HTML email isn't the solution ... was just responding
to the individual who said (to poorly paraphrase) "how do you turn it
off if MS doesn't allow you to".
I'm a fan of HTML email, it's the logical evolution ... can't wait for
Rich Email via Flash :)
It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages that
have titles like "RE: movie" from people you don't know that you didn't
send a message titled "movie" to in the first place. :)
There are ways to disable HTML email in Outlook, although they may be
above the general use
It's easy, turn off the Auto Preview and then don't open messages that
have titles like "RE: movie" from people you don't know that you didn't
send a message titled "movie" to in the first place. :)
There are ways to disable HTML email in Outlook, although they may be
above the general user's h
Hi Joshua,
JM> Again, saying that your email client is superior because it's not
JM> affected by a virus written specifically to exploit a vulnerability in
JM> Outlook makes no sense.
actually KMail still has a long way to go, but it's nice to use -
TheBat however is by any stretch of the imagi
is is getting old!
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From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
Again, saying that your email client is superior because it's not
affected by a virus written speci
Again, saying that your email client is superior because it's not
affected by a virus written specifically to exploit a vulnerability in
Outlook makes no sense. Of course it's not vulnerable, the virus wasn't
written to exploit a feature of KMail because far fewer people use KMail
than Outlook.
You seem to be forgetting the numerous auto-executing viruses
that have hit Outlook since BubbleBoy back in 99.
Every single of these viruses could have been rendered impotent by
simply allowing users to disable html email, and it has been a conscious
decision on Microsoft's part, not to provide t
other company
in my opinion.
Jim Davis
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From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
It is easy to turn off scripting support in Outlook.
But, on the other hand, ny who
Hi Joshua,
I agree it's unfair to blame a vendor for a user's lack of effort,
but at the same time I think it's perfectly fair to apportion at
least part of the blame on vendors who release product after
product with the *same* vulnerabilities, and don't even provide
their users wit
I stopped using Outlook recently, but mainly because I finally found a
way to move all my old email over to my Mac.
It's somewhat unfair to blame Microsoft for the virii being passed
around, although it's typical of society - if you don't properly educate
yourself on how to use your software an
service, my job isn't done!
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From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
| >>I am not sure why everyo
>>I am not sure why everyone is blaming Outlook for this.
Because only Outlook allows script to be executed just when opening the message.
Outlook is the principal if not the only responsible for so many viruses all over the
world.
>>I use Outlook almost exclusively and have not been infected wi
> That's the problem with Outlook. You need to have an
> antivirus program running behind it. I bet alot of
> people who were the first recipients of SoBig thought
> that they were protected too, but the exploit is still
> there as long as the antivirus company hasn't had time
> to react.
Whi
>Thanks,
>Bruce
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:52 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>
>
>
>>>and assuming you are using Outlook
>>>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>and assuming you are using Outlook
I NEVER and I'll NEVER use these for receiving or viewing my mail.
Unfortunately others do. :-(
The problem is not getting infected
>>and assuming you are using Outlook
I NEVER and I'll NEVER use these for receiving or viewing my mail.
Unfortunately others do. :-(
The problem is not getting infected. The problem is that I receive hundreds of them,
and each one is about 160k ! :-(
Thing is, as I pointed out, simply previewing the email has the
potential to launch it.
Kola
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:21
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security A
>>so I am curious how in the
WORLD I am getting them??
Well, if it is able to read Outlook database of messages, it can get all our addresses.
If any one in this list cliqued on the attachement, he probably sent the worn to all
of us.
This list is supposed to be used by "professionals", so appare
!
Kola
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:05
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>
>> This is a question for those that have already become familiar with
these
I have not seen a single one.
(yet)
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 10:02AM >>>
Yes.. it is very annoying...
I did not open any attachment so I am curious how in the
WORLD I am getting them??
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 09:53AM >>>
>>There is a new virus threat introduced to
://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf
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- Original Message -
From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 20
Yes.. it is very annoying...
I did not open any attachment so I am curious how in the
WORLD I am getting them??
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 09:53AM >>>
>>There is a new virus threat introduced to the internet yesterday,
which
Symantec identifies as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm.
This is
>>There is a new virus threat introduced to the internet yesterday, which
Symantec identifies as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm.
This is unbelievable: since last friday I'm receiving about half/dozen copies of it
every hour!
Suscribing to a list like this makes your email address present in tho
you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
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From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [ OT] Special security Alert!
| A
m: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
>>Or go get a free virus scanner,
Or even MUCH simpler, just do not cli
>>Some of the infected emails may appear to be from Microsoft, and supposedly
containing updated patches, etc.
Judging on the number of samples I'm receiving since this morning, it is unbeleivable
the number of systems that must have been infected :-(
~
>>Or go get a free virus scanner,
Or even MUCH simpler, just do not click on any .exe attachement! ;-)
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: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 15:39 pm, you said:
> Hardly a "theat", as most people will be saavy enough to realise its a
> spoof.
You and me might.
Bob down in the mail room might not.
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On Friday 19 Sep 2003 15:39 pm, you said:
> Hardly a "theat", as most people will be saavy enough to realise its a
> spoof.
You and me might.
Bob down in the mail room might not.
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Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
B
Hardly a "theat", as most people will be saavy enough to realise its a
spoof.
-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 September 2003 14:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [ OT] Special security Alert!
There is a new virus threat introduced to th
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 14:53 pm, you said:
> If you do not have an
> anti-virus program actively running on your computer you may go to any of
> the following links and can perform a free on-line virus scan in order to
> be safe.
Or go get a free virus scanner, such as antivir.
Unfortunetly, this
There is a new virus threat introduced to the internet yesterday, which
Symantec identifies as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm. Other anti-virus companies may
have a slightly different name.
This worm invasion has the potential to spread much like the recent msblaster
and SoBig.f worm infections and
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