architecture mismatch

2010-10-13 Thread steve ebeling
new CF8 student. One project used Apache Derby Embedded drivers and all was well. On the second it called for Microsoft Access drivers and I get this issue. I am using a Gateway w/ Windows7 Home Premium 64bit sys. I have read of 32/64bit issues and understand the idea, but would not know how

Re: architecture mismatch

2010-10-13 Thread Russ Michaels
there is no 64bit ODBC drivers, however if you use 32bit mode it will work fine. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:30 PM, steve ebeling stephen.ebel...@gmail.comwrote: new CF8 student. One project used Apache Derby Embedded drivers and all was well. On the second it called for Microsoft Access

Re: architecture mismatch

2010-10-13 Thread Dave Watts
new CF8 student. One project used Apache Derby Embedded drivers and all was well. On the second it called for Microsoft Access drivers and I get this issue.  I am using a Gateway w/ Windows7 Home Premium 64bit sys. I have read of 32/64bit issues and understand the idea, but would not know

Re: architecture mismatch

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Cobb
We ran into this just a couple of weeks ago on Win 7 64bit. I had to run this to set up 32bit drivers: c:\windows\sysWOW64\odbcad32.exe. Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com steve ebeling wrote: new CF8 student. One project used Apache

Difference between 3 tier architecture and MVC pattern

2010-01-18 Thread funand learning
Hi All, I was trying to understand the concepts of fusebox and came across MVC design pattern, Can anyone please help me in understanding the difference between MVC and 3 tier architecture. I am confused as both are concerened with separation of layers? Thanks

Re: Difference between 3 tier architecture and MVC pattern

2010-01-18 Thread Barney Boisvert
MVC is a pattern for structuring your UI-layer code, while a three tier architecture is about how your hardware is laid out. MVC is about separating the request processing code from the state (model) code and from the display (view) code. The three all worth together to deal with a user

Re: Difference between 3 tier architecture and MVC pattern

2010-01-18 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Barney Boisvert bboisv...@gmail.com wrote: Three tier architecture is about physically separating your presentation code (typically an MVC application) from your business logic (typically a set of business objects) and your persistence layer (a database) onto

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-27 Thread Dave l
First off I don't post answer's or parts of answers for this dimwad I post them for other's who are half way rational and can quickly find out the full answer off of what I give and hopefully it will help someone. But this particular dimwitted poster is only looking for someone to do his work

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've had complaints from people about some CF-Talk threads that veered away from being technical and cordial into what amounts to name calling. It seems to involve the same players. I'm going to say this once and once only. STOP! If I have to start moderating threads then I'll do so. I've

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Don L
an architecture in the user agent. OSX is a wildcard, but universal binaries make it no big deal if it's PPC or Intel. But to answer your question, JS is unable to determine it, and more to the point, unable to do anything architecture-specific anyway. cheers, barneyb -- Barney Boisvert bboisv

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Barney Boisvert
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618) hmm, I can't seem to see anything that could be translated into cpu arch. What else could we try? Well, windows only runs on Intel, and it states 32/64 bit in the user agent. Linux usually has an architecture in the user agent. OSX is a wildcard

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Dave l
: os.name The name of OS name os.arch The OS architecture os.version The version of OS ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Don L
You are a disgusting and despicable being and your rigidness is beyond words. The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture not the server's. Do you know how my app is run??? Got it now? f off! Told you a 100 times! f off! I'll hunt you down one day, you fker! Common

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Charlie Griefer
Actually I've heard he's quite flexible. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Don L do...@yahoo.com wrote: You are a disgusting and despicable being and your rigidness is beyond words. The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture not the server's. Do you know how my app

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Francois Levesque
are a disgusting and despicable being and your rigidness is beyond words. The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture not the server's. Do you know how my app is run??? Got it now? f off! Told you a 100 times! f off! I'll hunt you down one day, you fker! Common sense would

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Claude Schneegans
The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture I don't know about your CPU architecture, but I'm pretty sure about what you smoke ;-) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Gerald Guido
. The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture not the server's. Do you know how my app is run??? Got it now? f off! Told you a 100 times! f off! I'll hunt you down one day, you fker! Common sense would dictate that you just maybe want to get this info from a system

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Matt Quackenbush
I know I shouldn't, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with G! on this one. :D If this sort of behavior were the norm, then I could and would fully agree. But we're talking about one particular poster who just happens to do it on every list he's on. I see it as a source of

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Francois Levesque
The problem with that reasoning is that this list is also available offline and is indexed by search engines. Most people won't know the rest of the story and could interpret it as the norm. Francois Levesque http://blog.critical-web.com/ On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Matt Quackenbush

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Francois Levesque
Obviously by offline I meant ONline, it must be the time of day (or night, whatever) Francois Levesque http://blog.critical-web.com/ On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Francois Levesque cfab...@gmail.comwrote: The problem with that reasoning is that this list is also available offline and is

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Matt Quackenbush
Heh. Offline. Online. Meh. No worries. :-) Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but I would argue that those very same search engines that index a few posts here and there of this sort are also indexing hundreds of thousands of the normal, average, every day post. Therefore, it

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Dave Watts
Preferably do it with javascript. Did a bit of digging myself, neither navigator.userAgent nor navigator.appVersion command would suffice for the CPU part.  Hmm, is javascript simply unable to or I simply don't know better? JavaScript is unable to access this sort of information. If you

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Dave Watts
Well, windows only runs on Intel, and it states 32/64 bit in the user agent.  Linux usually has an architecture in the user agent.  OSX is a wildcard, but universal binaries make it no big deal if it's PPC or Intel. Keep in mind that this might not be entirely reliable anyway. For example

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-26 Thread Dave Watts
is the variables you'd used: os.name        The name of OS name os.arch                The OS architecture os.version     The version of OS You are a disgusting and despicable being and your rigidness is beyond words. The question was to detect a user's OS and its CPU architecture not the server's

(ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-25 Thread Don L
Hi, Preferably do it with javascript. Did a bit of digging myself, neither navigator.userAgent nor navigator.appVersion command would suffice for the CPU part. Hmm, is javascript simply unable to or I simply don't know better? As always many thanks.

Re: (ot) Detect OS and CPU Architecture

2009-09-25 Thread Barney Boisvert
Well, windows only runs on Intel, and it states 32/64 bit in the user agent. Linux usually has an architecture in the user agent. OSX is a wildcard, but universal binaries make it no big deal if it's PPC or Intel. But to answer your question, JS is unable to determine it, and more

Need help finding backend architecture article

2007-10-23 Thread Daniel Roberts
I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of backend servers for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had diagrams for different levels of backend stability. I believe the article was by a ColdFusion blogger. Anyone have a clue where I can find this article/blog. I

Re: Need help finding backend architecture article

2007-10-23 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 10/23/07, Daniel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of backend servers for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had diagrams for different levels of backend stability. I believe the article was by a ColdFusion blogger.

Re: Need help finding backend architecture article

2007-10-23 Thread Daniel Roberts
That is it. Thank you! On 10/23/07, Daniel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read through an article months ago talking about the setup of backend servers for load balancing, failover, clustering, etc. It had diagrams for different levels of backend stability. I believe the article was

Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Joel Watson
I have a profile form that has about 7 drop-down menus (marital status, education level, etc.), all required fields. How do most handle this? Do you create a separate table for each collection and then have foreign keys on the profile table, or do you simply pass in literal values to the

Re: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread gary gilbert
Joel, if you want to have your database relational to 3rd normal form then yes you should have separate tables for all of your lookups. Databases are designed to work well with joins of that nature and if you build your indexes correctly you should be ok. A lot of people forget to add indexes

Re: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Joel Watson
Joel, if you want to have your database relational to 3rd normal form then yes you should have separate tables for all of your lookups. Databases are designed to work well with joins of that nature and if you build your indexes correctly you should be ok. A lot of people forget to add indexes

RE: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Dave Watts
For improved performance you could build views that join the tables together. Views are faster than running plain old select queries and doing all the joins. This is not generally true, actually. To improve performance, views have to be indexed or materialized, and they generally aren't by

RE: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Brad Wood
Architecture I have a profile form that has about 7 drop-down menus (marital status, education level, etc.), all required fields. How do most handle this? Do you create a separate table for each collection and then have foreign keys on the profile table, or do you simply pass in literal values

Re: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Matt Robertson
A single lookup table should work fine for this. I don't see a need to create a different table for each lookup. Field structure ID (int, indexed) ItemType (varchar 25, indexed) ItemStored (char3) ItemDisplay(varchar 25) The field lengths above are not set in stone, and I am assuming your

Re: Quick Question About Dbase Architecture

2007-09-18 Thread Dinner
On 9/18/07, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:... I suppose if you were a fanatic about data normalization you would create a table for 'lookups' and have it contain only ID and ItemType. Then your lookup table has an indexed ParentID field (foreign key) replacing the ItemType field.

Re: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dinner To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Mar 07 01:30:34 2007 Subject: Re: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture The proxy route is EASY, is all I know. Haven't tried

RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Watts
Yeah, I need to check this with our proxy manufacturer. It would seem Macromedia (maybe also Adobe now) use ColdFusion in distro mode and we all know how bad that performs, so maybe. that is not the way to go :-p My understanding is that Adobe uses proxies, not distributed mode, and

RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
How do you get metrics / demographics with a proxy? Adobe may not used distro mode, I thought they did! -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2007 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture Yeah, I need to check

RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Watts
How do you get metrics / demographics with a proxy? You can log HTTP requests at the proxy, or you can have the proxy write additional headers that can be used when you log HTTP requests at the proxy target. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides

Re: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 07 Mar 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: How do you get metrics Squid talks SNMP, for instance. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to biannually reintermediate robust functionalities On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email

RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-07 Thread Tero Pikala
] Sent: 07 March 2007 14:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture How do you get metrics / demographics with a proxy? You can log HTTP requests at the proxy, or you can have the proxy write additional headers that can be used when you log HTTP requests at the proxy target

ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-06 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
OK, After a few weeks of extended research I am bouncing a line out to see how others are setting up their ColdFusion in an n-tier architecture. We have looked at using a reverse proxy to talk to a web layer and also ColdFusion in Distributed mode in its own tier. Both look attractive

Re: ColdFusion in an n-Tier Architecture

2007-03-06 Thread Dinner
-Ravo, Neil (RX) Ravo wrote: OK, After a few weeks of extended research I am bouncing a line out to see how others are setting up their ColdFusion in an n-tier architecture. We have looked at using a reverse proxy to talk to a web layer and also ColdFusion in Distributed mode in its own tier

Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

2005-11-16 Thread Andy
I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase 1. Architecture discussion may be interesting to those not interested in Cart 2. Those not interested in Cart may wish be post opinion (please!) Lets move beyond terms OO or not OO and get to a specific architecture

re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

2005-11-16 Thread dave
://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase

Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

2005-11-16 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
night want to write exclusively for MX 7...). I would suggest a DAO architecture that you could then extend for different database platforms (MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the install to define the db platform being used. A good example of this can be seen by DAO CFC's

RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

2005-11-16 Thread Andy
architecture that you could then extend for different database platforms (MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the install to define the db platform being used. A good example of this can be seen by DAO CFC's written by CFCCreator. Another great catch. What's DAO architecture? I

Re: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-16 Thread Douglas Knudsen
anyone have an interest in building a pluggable application architecture around a common identity management system, or has anyone seen something like this for CF or other dev. platforms (other than LDAP)? Or is LDAP being used externally now? The basic idea would be to build an identity

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-15 Thread Dawson, Michael
architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Check out Plum. www.productivityenhancement.com The next planned release is geared in this direction. Mark ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-15 Thread Mark Fuqua
thrown in for fun. Mark -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Correct me if I'm wrong

Re: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-15 Thread Robert Munn
This is along the lines of what I was thinking, at least the core of it. Your notion of creating the model without defining an interface is the heart of what I was thinking. DAOs would need to be built to connect the logical model to specific data providers- LDAP, SQL Server, MySQL, etc. A web

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-15 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) This is along the lines of what I was thinking

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-15 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Actually you've just pointed out a bug in my

Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-14 Thread Robert Munn
application architecture around a common identity management system, or has anyone seen something like this for CF or other dev. platforms (other than LDAP)? Or is LDAP being used externally now? The basic idea would be to build an identity management system that could link into a pluggable application

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Your question brings up a question I have been thinking about for some time. At various times over the years I have used and integrated third party components (like

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-14 Thread Mark Fuqua
Check out Plum. www.productivityenhancement.com The next planned release is geared in this direction. Mark ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100%

RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-14 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) The basic idea would be to build an identity

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-10 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 18:32, Dawson, Michael wrote: We are currently working on a small project to test AJAX feasibility for us. We found that it is a great deal of work compared to simple page I've got a simple wrapper JS function that goes around the Sarissa crosbrowser xmlHttpRequest,

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 08 August 2005 23:34, Marlon Moyer wrote: ability to use flash, html, ajax,etc. I was thinking about creating all of the business logic as a set of web services. Any thoughts, Pitfall- web services are slow to execute, certainly much slower than an Ajax post/get. -- Tom

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
On Monday 08 August 2005 23:34, Marlon Moyer wrote: ability to use flash, html, ajax,etc. I was thinking about creating all of the business logic as a set of web services. Any thoughts, Pitfall- web services are slow to execute, certainly much slower than an Ajax post/get. I thought

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:49, S. Isaac Dealey wrote: I thought AJAX apps generally used webservices to fetch their data... isn't that the reason they use the XmlHttpRequest object? (and the reason why X ended up in the acronym). In the context of having to submit a form, run the webservice

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:49, S. Isaac Dealey wrote: I thought AJAX apps generally used webservices to fetch their data... isn't that the reason they use the XmlHttpRequest object? (and the reason why X ended up in the acronym). In the context of having to submit a form, run the

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
I rarely use web services, instead preferring to just use GET and POST operations. The XmlHttpRequest object was designed for fetching remote XML, but it's really nothing more than an HttpRequest object, and can be used as such. There's some XML-related stuff, but at the core is just simple

RE: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
an XML packet to the AJAX request. Simple and very effective. M!ke -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Architecture thoughts On Monday 08 August 2005 23:34, Marlon Moyer wrote: ability to use

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
Have to second this one. Just like Flash, building DHTML/JS Remoting apps is a lot of work. If you've got a large HTML-based UI already, however, there are often places where some simple remoting calls can make a HUGE difference in percieved performance and user friendliness. As an example, a

Architecture thoughts

2005-08-08 Thread Marlon Moyer
I'm tossing around ideas for the architecture for a new project. I'd like to keep the interface flexible, meaning I'd like to have the ability to use flash, html, ajax,etc. I was thinking about creating all of the business logic as a set of web services. Any thoughts, pitfalls that I should

Re: Architecture thoughts

2005-08-08 Thread Barney Boisvert
tossing around ideas for the architecture for a new project. I'd like to keep the interface flexible, meaning I'd like to have the ability to use flash, html, ajax,etc. I was thinking about creating all of the business logic as a set of web services. Any thoughts, pitfalls that I should avoid

Good books on Web Application Architecture (was RE: CFMODULE vs. CFINCLUDE)

2004-12-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Which brings up a follow on thread: What would you recommend as good reading on Architecture? Jerry Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/04 02:53AM To write a good application, knowing ColdFusion is only 1% and most people don't seem to understand

Architecture Question: Adding event model to jComponents

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
Hi all, I've got a series of custom tags that make CSS/_javascript_ base interface widgets like tab navigations and accordian panes.(demo at http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jcomponents) I'm currently implementing an event model with the following goals: 1.Allow a developer to

Architecture and Infrastructure Question

2003-07-18 Thread Michael Ross
I was hoping to start a question with any sys admin's on the list a large or mega large companies on what type of infrastructure they have set up. I would love to bounce some idea's and thoughts off of others. Anyone implementing the new Application Enterprise Suite's like Novell Extend, Sun

Architecture and Infrastructure Question

2003-07-18 Thread Michael Ross
I was hoping to start a question with any sys admin's on the list a large or mega large companies on what type of infrastructure they have set up. I would love to bounce some idea's and thoughts off of others. Anyone implementing the new Application Enterprise Suite's like Novell Extend, Sun

SOT: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Tim Blair
* repost as a didn't get it through yesterday... Moring all... We are currently at the beginning stages of a large (possibly huge) CF project so now's the time we're looking at how to move forward. I've got about a million things to think about in respect of both architecting the application

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Taco Fleur
-Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 6:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Thinking about application architecture... * repost as a didn't get it through yesterday... Moring all... We are currently at the beginning stages of a large (possibly

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 09:38 am, Taco Fleur wrote: *** Database We have generally always used MySQL as the database for sites we develop but considering the possible enterprise scale nature of this application we're starting to look elsewhere. In my opinion MySQL isn't quite there in that

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Sandy Clark
Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Thinking about application architecture... I know using the client SCOPE will allow you to load balance session between a clustered environment, that is if you use a database as storage for the sessions

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread webguy
hi, Sandy Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Said: Actually using J2EE Sessions with a copy of CFMX for J2EE and your own J2EE server will allow you to use the J2EE clustering abilities with session variables. Ben Forta gave a presentation here last week which came up with that exact item. Very

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI)
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Thinking about application architecture... I know using the client SCOPE will allow you to load balance session between a clustered environment, that is if you use a database as storage for the sessions. I thought MySQL

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI)
with very few problems. -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Thinking about application architecture... * repost as a didn't get it through yesterday... Moring all... We are currently at the beginning

Re: SOT: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tim Blair wrote: We have generally always used MySQL as the database for sites we develop but considering the possible enterprise scale nature of this application we're starting to look elsewhere. In my opinion MySQL isn't quite there in that respect -- lack of stored procs, relationships

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread webguy
Hi, From: Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI) Out of curiosity, what is the problem with limiting each session to the same box on a load-balanced system? We use a web farm here and we restrict each session to only one box with no problems. I don't really see this as much of a constraint and it

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 09:38 am, Taco Fleur wrote: We have generally always used MySQL as the database for sites we develop but considering the possible enterprise scale nature of this application we're starting to look elsewhere. In my opinion MySQL isn't quite there

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 13:46 pm, Jochem van Dieten wrote: We used to use it, it scaled well to start with, but by the end we were having to rebuild our indexes almost weekly, by hand. cron + REINDEX takes care of that for BTREE indexes, but RTREE, Hash and GIST indexes don't need

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Tim Blair
Basically that is Sticky Sessions. The only problem with this is if you establish a session on box1, and box1 fails you loss your session state. If you are using cluster wide sessions, your session can just continue on another box. Thats the main difference. This may or may not be an

Re: Thinking about application architecture... (db issues)

2003-07-17 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
- Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:08 AM Subject: Re: Thinking about application architecture... On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 09:38 am, Taco Fleur wrote: *** Database We have generally always used

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Peter Harrison
What kinds of things will you be needing your session state for? - Peter -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2003 14:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Thinking about application architecture... Basically that is Sticky Sessions. The only problem

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 13:46 pm, Jochem van Dieten wrote: cron + REINDEX takes care of that for BTREE indexes, but RTREE, Hash and GIST indexes don't need reindexing. (This was fixed for BTREE indexes in CVS 2 months ago so once 7.4 is released it will be completely

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 01:38 US/Pacific, Taco Fleur wrote: I know using the client SCOPE will allow you to load balance session between a clustered environment, that is if you use a database as storage for the sessions. Yes, if you're using CF5 and earlier. With CFMX you'd probably want

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Tim Blair
What kinds of things will you be needing your session state for? I would imagine (I haven't gone that deeply into it just yet) just basic state session info -- user id, partner id, possibly affiliate id -- all simple variable types, no structs etc ...

Re: Thinking about application architecture... (db issues)

2003-07-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
for 64-bit AMD processors. MS SQL Server Yukon, DB2, etc are all not yet available in 64-bit editions. DB2, Oracle, PostgreSQL etc. have all been around as 64-bit applications for ages. They all run on HP-UX, AIX, Solaris etc. And if you are specifically refering to the x86-64 architecture

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Peter Harrison
Cookies and cached queries spring to mind. However, Sean's suggestion about the J2EE session variables sounds nicer. - Peter -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2003 16:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Thinking about application architecture... What

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Ken Wilson
enable J2EE session variables and take advantage of the clustering and fail over capabilities of the underlying J2EE app server (e.g., CFMX for J2EE on JRun gives you session replication in real-time). Are these clustering and fail-over capabilities available if you are using the regular

Re: Thinking about application architecture... (db issues)

2003-07-17 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
- Original Message - From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Thinking about application architecture... (db issues) John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: All that said, the memory cache built into MySQL 4

Re: Thinking about application architecture... (db issues)

2003-07-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: All that said, the memory cache built into MySQL 4 beats anything from Oracle, MS, etc. You can set the cache size to whatever you wish and the db handles all the caching. Huge performance

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Dave Watts
Any other benefit to J2EE session variables on CFMX versions other than CFMX for J2EE? Yes, if you want to integrate your CFMX code with servlets and JSP pages on the same machine. You can do this with the standalone CFMX Enterprise product. You don't need CFMX for J2EE for that. You do need it

RE: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Sandy Clark
CFMX on any J2EE server that supports the replication. CFMX simply lets the J2EE server deal with it. -Original Message- From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Thinking about application architecture... hi, Sandy Clark

Re: Thinking about application architecture...

2003-07-17 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 08:23 US/Pacific, Ken Wilson wrote: enable J2EE session variables and take advantage of the clustering and fail over capabilities of the underlying J2EE app server (e.g., CFMX for J2EE on JRun gives you session replication in real-time). Are these clustering and

Re: Architecture advice please ...

2002-12-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Quoting Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We have one main site, (I'll call it MAINSITE) which consists of a shop and lots of .asp and html pages, and a couple of cold-fusion based separate smaller sites. NO problem so far, but the MAINSITE has lots of interactive ColdFusion pages, which are

Architecture advice please ...

2002-12-22 Thread Michael Kear
My client's sysadmin has decided that the when they get the new server in a few days, (we've had a one server site up to now) we'll configure it as follows, and I'd like your opinions as to whether this is the best way to do it. It seems to me they have made some really problematical choices.

RE: CFMX architecture question

2002-11-04 Thread Dave Watts
What happens to those class files? Are they deleted at some point? No, not unless you delete them yourself. You wouldn't want them to be deleted, since they'd just need to be recompiled again later. When I build out a box, I put CF on the C drive which sits pretty on its own SMALL

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