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Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
>
> cfdump works fine with the setting of Disable access to internal
> ColdFusion Java components
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From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 5:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!
Apologies to Mike - when working a
On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
>
> cfdump works fine with the setting of Disable access to internal
> ColdFusion Java components.
You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can
cfdump *some*
If you mean you put code in production, then months later someone changes
something without telling anyone else, and it breaks something? And then you
try to say that the fault lies with anyone except the person who made the
change and didn't tell anyone? Yes, I'd say you're the only one.
Totally
Agreed, especially if the same dump works fine locally. In that case it has
to be some configuration issue on the server (you might try dumping various
other things to see if you can find a pattern in what will dump and what
won't).
On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This mig
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
>
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes
> problems. I guess im the only one.
Oh no, it does happen to everyone :-)
But if we change something, we'd check it, so we'd know that the cfdump we
added caused an explosion.
: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
> was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and
the
> line looks perfectly valid. You
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
> was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and the
> line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking down
> this issue.
D
I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!
Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
can't use cfdump on many things.
On some things you can, and on other things you can't.
The reason is this - by turning t
On a side note -
This is one of the reasons why I suggested to you Mike to simply
upload your App onto the hosting server, rather than trying to test is
piecemeal.
If the whole application is uploaded, you can test and fix issues that
are relevant *to your application*, and not spend several days
Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
cfdump works fine with the setting of Disable access to internal
ColdFusion Java components.
So that is not Mikes problem...
On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be a
Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be able to use
CFDUMP. That's one of the best debugging tools there is, and to not
have it will make a great many things more difficult.
Yes, you have to do most of your development on a dev machine, but
after uploading your app to production
On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
> an internal java tag?
I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
setting.
> But
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what shoud it be set to and are there any security or performance
> implicatoins for a shared hosting operatoin ?
My understanding is that most shared hosts will use this new setting
to disable access to Java objects to improve security. Mark Man
Which is why I also said that it might pay to try those settings on
the dev machine, it would have confirmed it even more.
However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
an internal java tag?
But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
Mike also st
James gets a prize Sean send him a voucher for CF8-enterprise and
put it on my bill . I'll pay yo uafter i win the lotto!
i asked the support guy if they had that java thign disabled and his
answer was confusing - ambiguous - so i'll revisit that now ...
what shoud it be set to and are ther
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away
>
> so whats the matter with the line
>
> then??
>
> can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
Not if access to Java internal objects is disabled in
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Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away
so whats the matter with the line
then??
can't CF8 dump out a com
This might get us back to the internal Java method setting I was talking about.
On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
>
> I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away
>
> so whats the matter with the line
>
> then??
>
> can't CF8 dump o
Thanks for your interest Sean, i feel a lot better now you and Brian
are involved.
on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
correctly. it says
But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
one kicking off the coldspring
If you like i can cu
AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away
so whats the matter with the line
then??
can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.
I will agree, have been using Coldspring for over 12 months and has
saved me hours of work, and the support has been great. however I have
never used it on its own, have always used it with MG:U another
excellent framework with huge support.
And Dale, to coin the phrase of calling the kettle black
This tells us where the problem is:
at
cftryResetCFCFactory2ecfm749101480.runPage(C:\websites\ybunp9\admin\tryResetCFCFactory.cfm:47)
You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes?
Could you show us that code? The problem is there, not in ColdSpring.
--
Sean A Corfi
Dale i have to say i am considerably less enthusiastic about it than i
was at the outset!
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser
On 10/23/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have a cfdump on line 477 of admin/tryResetCFCFactory.cfm, yes?
Line *47*...
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Nonsense. ColdSpring is a very well supported framework. I have no idea what
you are talking about when you reference the "obvious lack of support".
Further, a great many people are and have been using ColdSpring with
incredible success. It's the one framework I would absolutely never omit
from any
y, 24 October 2007 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?
Still no idea, because there is no method called getClass() in the bean
factory (and there's not supposed to be). Further, a full text search of the
entire ColdSpring repository shows no files with &qu
Still no idea, because there is no method called getClass() in the bean
factory (and there's not supposed to be). Further, a full text search of the
entire ColdSpring repository shows no files with "getClass" in them. So
there's nothing in the core that would be calling such a method. It has to
be
i used createobject() so thats ok
i asked about the disable java thing and got an ambiguous reply so i'm not sure
i'll ask again
that has to be UNCHECKED, right?
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusio
One thing Mike can do first is emulate these settings on his dev
machine first to see if that is indeed the problem.
I am unware that coldspring uses any internal java objects, otherwise
it would not run on BlueDragon or Railo.
But worth testing on the dev machine before ringing the hosting provi
In the CF8 administrator, "Disable access to internal ColdFusion Java
components" under settings is one place to check and in the sandbox
for your account also have them see if they've disabled createobject()
java, in case these restrict the operation you're trying to perform. I
could be completely
Thanks for your suggestion James.
What do i ask them to look for, and if they have , what do i ask them to do?
CHeers
MIke Kear
On 10/24/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll bet the host has sandboxed out the core java calls (of which
> getClass() is an example, afaik) - this is
I'll bet the host has sandboxed out the core java calls (of which
getClass() is an example, afaik) - this is now an option in CF8.
On 10/24/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.
>
> THe installation instructions for coldspri
Thanks Dave.That call is coming from the coldspring core files.
THe installation instructions for coldspring say to unpack the zip
file into a folder called /coldspring then run them .
thats what i did. No changes to any of the core files, and i checked
i havent got any of the known 'gotch
> I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and
> now i have a stack trace for this error. It's apparently
> looking for something in a folder that doesnt exist. There
> is no E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
That doesn't matter, actually. The CFDUMP tag is a
I had a chat to the support guy at teh hosting company. and now i have
a stack trace for this error. It's apparently looking for something
in a folder that doesnt exist. There is no
E:\cf8_final\cfusion\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cftags\dump.cfm
there's the stack trace:
at
cfdump2ecfm1757687228._factor1
Thanks for you interest Brian.
No the ybunp9 is the directory above the root. It's what is added by
the expandpath() part of the path to coldspring. is that not what i
should do?
here's the line i am using in the code:
and the fullly qualified path to DefaultXmlBeanFactory.cfc is
C:\websites
I'd wager that the problem has to do with the fact that this is a shared
host. Something clearly isn't correct since obviously many people (including
myself) are using ColdSpring on shared hosts. You might ensure that the cfc
dot paths are resolving correctly (it looks like you might be using "
bun
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Pity,
For sure.
Things to try when you get the chance include createObject() without the
init(), and cfdump the result.
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Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
ColdSpring, and has done some Flex work ? W
I've uploaded the coldspring core code again , with no change.
I posted this same question to the Coldspring mailing list too but
after 6 hours now it stlil hasn't appeared. I guess the coldspring
list is dead.
I guess i'll just have to give this idea away and go back to my own
home-grown factory
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The host is CF8 while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
> CF7. Does that make a difference?
Nope, ColdSpring runs fine on both of those.
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Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
ColdSpring,
G'day Tom,
Thanks for you reassurance. At least it means (if i've uploaded the
code correctly) that it OUGHT to work.
The host is CF8 while my Dev machine (on which the code does work) is
CF7. Does that make a difference?
In the mean time i'll upload the code again, just to make sure all the
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> createObject("component","coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory").init()/>
Well, that certainly should work, I'm sorry to say.
What CF version is your host ?
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Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and
ColdS
My first app using Coldspring the coldspring installation works
on my dev server, but when i upload it to the (shared) production
server, i get the following error when i try to instantiate the
DefaultXmlBeanFactory cfc:
[quote]
The method getClass was not found in component
C:\websites\ybu
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