Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-12 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2007, d l wrote: The thing is, of the two choices of my local ISPs, both blocks port 80, going for other ISP might be too expensive (I've got to be careful about spending money). There are free (and/or very cheap) CF hosts. Were you not able to access my semantic search

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-12 Thread d l
spending money). There are free (and/or very cheap) CF hosts. My concern is the IP protection, not too sure if the free/cheap CF hosts truly protect what I host there, if bad thing happens law suit? I'd rather stay away from hassle... Were you not able to access my semantic search demo?

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 10 Dec 2007, d l wrote: -- The previous url has been replaced by a permanent one, http://web.mytata.net:8000/TextSearch/search.cfm Not port 80 ? This may cause some people problems... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to augmentatively mesh leading-edge environments on:

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-11 Thread d l
The thing is my ISP blocks port 80 and I don't understand the rationale of organizations blocking port like 8000 (if memory serves I think one of the rfc standard specified that any port above 8000 is recommended as an alternative to port 80, that was about 14 years ago when I first started to

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2007, d l wrote: The thing is my ISP blocks port 80 Is this because you're not meant to be running any|production services on it, by any chance ? I choose my ISP because they explictly *did* allow running servers over the ADSL* line in their T+Cs... -- Tom Chiverton

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-11 Thread d l
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2007, d l wrote: The thing is my ISP blocks port 80 Is this because you're not meant to be running any|production services on it, by any chance ? I choose my ISP because they explictly *did* allow running servers over the ADSL* line in their T+Cs... -- Tom

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-10 Thread d l
Update: -- The previous url has been replaced by a permanent one, http://web.mytata.net:8000/TextSearch/search.cfm -- More impotantly, it's now on cf8 and SPEED has improved SUBSTANTIALLY. -- The key scoring algothrithm is to calculate and assign each term a score, adding them up for each target

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-12-06 Thread d l
So is this an app that you will host or will you potentially release it? If you will only host is it available as a webservice? Is it commercial or General use? etc.. Richard, I've whipped cf8 to do its job (have set up a Web Service for this semantic/conceptual search component), send me an

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-30 Thread d l
On Thursday 29 Nov 2007, d l wrote: But for one site 'energy' bringing back 'geothermal' may be OK, but on another site 'zen' would be a much better choice. Excellent point! We need to know our audience, which should be a given in your case? or to provide them with options /

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 Nov 2007, d l wrote: But for one site 'energy' bringing back 'geothermal' may be OK, but on another site 'zen' would be a much better choice. Excellent point! We need to know our audience, which should be a given in your case? or to provide them with options / clear

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 27 Nov 2007, d l wrote: I know Verity and Google search etc. etc. Try the following if you're So your looking up the search term in a thesaurus (or similar) and feeding those in as weighted alternate terms ? Can I provide my own set of domain knowledge / weightings if so ? -- Tom

RE: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Dave Watts
So your looking up the search term in a thesaurus (or similar) and feeding those in as weighted alternate terms ? Can I provide my own set of domain knowledge / weightings if so ? I haven't been following the thread too closely, but you can do that easily with the Google search appliances.

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Richard Cooper
What's are you offering? ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread d l
my own set of domain knowledge / weightings Sure, imho, the key word here is good enough, and probably cost effective as well. On Tuesday 27 Nov 2007, d l wrote: I know Verity and Google search etc. etc. Try the following if you're So your looking up the search term in a thesaurus (or

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread d l
What's are you offering? A better database search service on a small scale. And consider to ignore the noise of google this and google that (no one says google is bad nor people are not appreciative of their service...) ~|

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 Nov 2007, d l wrote: my own set of domain knowledge / weightings Sure, imho, the key word here is good enough, and probably cost effective as well. Maybe. But for one site 'energy' bringing back 'geothermal' may be OK, but on another site 'zen' would be a much better choice.

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread d l
On Thursday 29 Nov 2007, d l wrote: my own set of domain knowledge / weightings Sure, imho, the key word here is good enough, and probably cost effective as well. Maybe. But for one site 'energy' bringing back 'geothermal' may be OK, but on another site 'zen' would be a much better

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Richard Cooper
So is this an app that you will host or will you potentially release it? If you will only host is it available as a webservice? Is it commercial or General use? etc.. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the

RE: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s) On Thursday 29 Nov 2007, d l wrote: my own set of domain knowledge / weightings Sure, imho, the key word here

RE: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread Russ
-Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Conceptual Search against Database(s) -Original Message- From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:19 AM

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread d l
So is this an app that you will host or will you potentially release it? If you will only host is it available as a webservice? Is it commercial or General use? etc.. I'm shooting to host it as sort of SaaS service offering a free trial period and then charge a reasonable fee, and to be

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-29 Thread d l
Thanks for the great input and the SA pointer. And as you imply in reality things are easier said than done. Also, some times one may opt for more relevant results than more accurate results while others may differ... or it depends on context etc. etc. Don P.S. I remember you, hope you're

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-28 Thread d l
Update: -- Have improved query performance substantially; -- Add additional notes... -- If we're talking about searching against a specific set of data, say, a particular data column in a database's table then, this approach, imho, kicks ass. So, probably one could consider to use it against

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-28 Thread James Wolfe
DL, You can find my email address here: http://www.omnibrow.com/deleteme.txt sorry for the runaround, but I don't want to post it online permanently and as soon as you email me, i will be taking it down. Sorry to everyone else that they have to be bothered with non-public business. James.

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-28 Thread d l
James, Got your email, will send you email tomorrow. Thks. Don DL, You can find my email address here: http://www.omnibrow.com/deleteme.txt sorry for the runaround, but I don't want to post it online permanently and as soon as you email me, i will be taking it down. Sorry to

Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-27 Thread d l
Greetings to all, I know Verity and Google search etc. etc. Try the following if you're interested in the topic, but before you begin let me issue some warnings: a) I'm not implementing some of the stuff that a beginner programmer would have implemented such as telling peole, oh query does not

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-27 Thread James Wolfe
dl, I was the one who posted about Verity. Sadly, I didnt understand your email or find any more information on your website. What exactly is your approach? How would I implement it on my site? Is it proprietary? Does it build on verity? Does it cost money? Greetings to all, I know

Re: Conceptual Search against Database(s)

2007-11-27 Thread d l
James, Yes, it would cost money but not expensive... It has nothing to do with Verity nor Google. What's your email address? We could discuss more offline. Don dl, I was the one who posted about Verity. Sadly, I didnt understand your email or find any more information on your