Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-14 Thread paul
> I am interested in what functionality SQL server 2000 provides which > makes internationalization of applications easier. Do you have any > pointers to - good unicode support - atomic collation, down to column levels - full text indexing w/unicode support - xml support - works a treat with mx.

RE: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-14 Thread Kola Oyedeji
: 13 February 2003 19:34 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: Internationalization Theme >> >> > Adam Churvis wrote: >> > > >> > > Any my suggestion was using ColdFusion with two very popular XML- >> capable >> > > databases, namely

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Adam Churvis
> Adam Churvis wrote: > > > > That is a nice _theory_, but it is only that: a theory. It isn't a simple > > matter of a change in syntax; there are completely different techniques > > available in some very popular products. To disregard these very valuable > > and popular techniques is to say, "

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote: > > That is a nice _theory_, but it is only that: a theory. It isn't a simple > matter of a change in syntax; there are completely different techniques > available in some very popular products. To disregard these very valuable > and popular techniques is to say, "You guys sh

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Adam Churvis
> Adam Churvis wrote: > > > > Any my suggestion was using ColdFusion with two very popular XML-capable > > databases, namely MS SQL Server and Oracle 9iR2. > > And mine is not to lock the examples into some specific propietary > database that makes them unuseable and untranslateable for everybody >

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote: > > Any my suggestion was using ColdFusion with two very popular XML-capable > databases, namely MS SQL Server and Oracle 9iR2. And mine is not to lock the examples into some specific propietary database that makes them unuseable and untranslateable for everybody that happen

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Adam Churvis
> So you want Macromedia to write a best practices document for MS SQL > Server, another one for Oracle, another one for Informix, one for DB2, > one for Sybase, one for PostgreSQL, one for MySQL, one for SAPdb, one > for .. No. The original request was: "There is an internationalization and

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote: >>Adam Churvis wrote: >> >>>-- How to leverage the XML handling capabilities of SQL Server 2000 and >>>Oracle 9iR2. >> >>Please, no db-vendor specific content, there is more than enough content >>claiming you need database X for feature Y already, and it tends to >>outlive the t

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Adam Churvis
> Adam Churvis wrote: > > > > -- How to leverage the XML handling capabilities of SQL Server 2000 and > > Oracle 9iR2. > > Please, no db-vendor specific content, there is more than enough content > claiming you need database X for feature Y already, and it tends to > outlive the thruth of the state

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread paul
> Please make all pages subliminally pass the message "use unicode". And > some pages should say it superliminally as well ;-) i would opt for the loaded pistol approachor if you're squimish, the big rubber unicode mallet. but yes, this needs to drilled into folks' heads.

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Christian Cantrell wrote: > There is an internationalization and globalization theme coming up on > DevNet in the next few months. Would anyone like to suggest some > specific ColdFusion topics? We obviously want to cover areas where > people have the most difficulty and questions. Please mak

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Paul Hastings wrote: >>ISO/IEC 9075-14:200x(E), available through the usual channels, will tell >>you how the upcomming SQL:2003 standard will define what the behaviour >>of XML and SQL combined has to be. Please base any best practices >>documents on the current working drafts of that standard. >

Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Hastings
>The most difficult thing for me is to find a reliable as possible >translation engine. Since I don't have the funds to hire a linguist. >Something similar to bablefish's web service. machine translations are basically good for a laugh on a slow day. you really shouldn't rely on them for anything

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread paul
> ISO/IEC 9075-14:200x(E), available through the usual channels, will tell > you how the upcomming SQL:2003 standard will define what the behaviour > of XML and SQL combined has to be. Please base any best practices > documents on the current working drafts of that standard. that might be hard to

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote: > > -- How to leverage the XML handling capabilities of SQL Server 2000 and > Oracle 9iR2. Please, no db-vendor specific content, there is more than enough content claiming you need database X for feature Y already, and it tends to outlive the thruth of the statement by year

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-13 Thread paul
> 1. A discussion of storage "best practices" or "recommendations" as it > pertains to multi-lingual content would great. I've read numerous articles > suggesting that a database might not be the best solution. They tend to > recommend XML files instead. But to what extent? All my content? This mig

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread paul
> -- Search engine implications (use of language packs, etc). if we're voting, this is a good, overlooked one (though google's been "unicoded" for a while now). > -- The caveats of machine translation, e.g., "Hydraulic Ram" in English > becoming "Water Goat" in another language. the best advice

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread paul
> There is an internationalization and globalization theme coming up on > DevNet in the next few months. Would anyone like to suggest some > specific ColdFusion topics? We obviously want to cover areas where > people have the most difficulty and questions. its about time. i'd suggest looking thr

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Churvis
> >There is an internationalization and globalization theme coming up on > >DevNet in the next few months. Would anyone like to suggest some > >specific ColdFusion topics? We obviously want to cover areas where > >people have the most difficulty and questions. > > 1. A discussion of storage "best

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread Dave Lyons
you could spend a great deal of time helping me:) dave - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Internationalization Theme > T

Re: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread Dave Carabetta
>There is an internationalization and globalization theme coming up on >DevNet in the next few months. Would anyone like to suggest some >specific ColdFusion topics? We obviously want to cover areas where >people have the most difficulty and questions. 1. A discussion of storage "best practices"

RE: Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Certified ColdFusion MX Developer Digital Bay Media, Inc. 1-877-72DIGITAL -Original Message- From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Internationalization Theme T

Internationalization Theme

2003-02-12 Thread Christian Cantrell
There is an internationalization and globalization theme coming up on DevNet in the next few months. Would anyone like to suggest some specific ColdFusion topics? We obviously want to cover areas where people have the most difficulty and questions. Thanks, Christian ~