On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:52:20 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - This one is more administrative. I want to look at something in another
> system, say a test or production environments, or someone else's working
> project, without losing my place in the current project. Not that I c
ink Windows Explorer and
>HomeSite are far better.
>
>- Calvin
>
>-Original Message-
>From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:19 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
>
>[quote]I think it represents very
Robert Munn wrote:
> OK, you have my interest now. I've just spent most of the morning playing
> around with the configuration on my desktop at work.
:)
>
>
>>I've used Quantum and JFaceDBC. Both
>>
>>did all I needed, but I found setting up drivers a bit of a pain, so
>>I'm
>>always looki
OK, you have my interest now. I've just spent most of the morning playing
around with the configuration on my desktop at work.
> I've used Quantum and JFaceDBC. Both
>
> did all I needed, but I found setting up drivers a bit of a pain, so
> I'm
> always looking for better alternatives to poi
J said: "And yeah, after reading Sean's post about the wishlist and bugfix
pages, I'll do that. "
Yeps, let's have a lot more of that, flood MM with our gripes and
suggestions so they really know what bugs us and what would make our work
flow better with their products :)
~~~
ry 14, 2005 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
Robert Munn wrote:
> Spike,
>
> Glad to see you are actively soliciting input. Here's my list:
>
> - A good data browser. Sean suggested DBEdit, I'll have a look at it.
There are quite a fe
I have been using VSS plugin and so far it has been great on CFE.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:34:45 -0800, Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Munn wrote:
> > Spike,
> >
> > Glad to see you are actively soliciting input. Here's my list:
> >
> > - A good data browser. Sean suggested DBEdit, I'll
There's a few things that I've been frustrated with about both CFS,
HS+, and DW... but like Spike said... "working" is subjective. If they
say "it does this and costs this much" and you pay that much and it
does... then it "works." And DWMX 2k4 is FAR superior to DWMX. Upgrade
if you can.
There's
Robert Munn wrote:
> Spike,
>
> Glad to see you are actively soliciting input. Here's my list:
>
> - A good data browser. Sean suggested DBEdit, I'll have a look at it.
There are quite a few out there. I've used Quantum and JFaceDBC. Both
did all I needed, but I found setting up drivers a bit
Rob,
This is awesome! Has anyone done the same for the Windows build? Yours helps me
on my home machine, but work is an XP environment.
Bob
> For anyone in this situation, I have posted an eclipse "build" of
> sorts on my blog that has CFML, PHP, CSS, JS, XML, and SQL support.
> Its big 101MB b
and
> HomeSite are far better.
>
> - Calvin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:19 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
>
> [quote]I think it represents very poor u
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
[quote]I think it represents very poor usability. Here we spend all this
time learning to build usable Web sites that don't scroll, and we end up
with an IDE with endless scro
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> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
>
>
>>For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
>>"cff" for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type t
[quote]I think it represents very poor usability. Here we spend all this time
learning to build usable Web sites that don't scroll, and we end up with an IDE
with endless scrolling. It would be really cool if the panes were
detachable.[/quote]
u just dont know how to use it, if u dont want the p
Spike,
Glad to see you are actively soliciting input. Here's my list:
- A good data browser. Sean suggested DBEdit, I'll have a look at it.
- Multiple file/folder panes. Maybe I'm lazy but I find the two file/folder
pane feature of HS+ to be really convenient. That was such a big deal when it
For anyone in this situation, I have posted an eclipse "build" of
sorts on my blog that has CFML, PHP, CSS, JS, XML, and SQL support.
Its big 101MB but it has all the plugins and JDBC drivers for MySQL,
Postgres and MSSql.
http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=14994065-D86C-DE08-
rsday, January 13, 2005 6:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
>
>
>>For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
>>"cff" for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that
>>trigg
Will triggers automatically wrap around a hightlighted section of code? Trigger
characters have been in CF Studio/HS for a long time, though they are called
"Code Templates". Just enter a couple of trigger letters and then "crtl+j".
For those who do not know: To add a "Code Templates" in CF Stu
The problem that we ran into with this was that Eclipse requires you to
have a Java class that gets called for each keyboard shortcut. That
makes it kinda tricky to allow you to assign any keyboard shortcut to
any arbitrary action since the class would have to be generated on the
fly. Either th
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
> For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
> "cff" for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that
> trigger followed by ctrl+i it will insert the snippet and prompt y
> For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
> "cff" for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you type that
> trigger followed by ctrl+i it will insert the snippet and prompt you for
> any custom snippet variables in the snippet. You can configure a
> differ
You can't assign keyboard shortcuts to snippets in exactly the same way
as you can in Homesite, but you can do something that is potentially
much more powerful.
For each snippet you can assign a set trigger trigger characters such as
"cff" for a snippet that inserts a cffunction block. When you
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:47:13 -0700, Paul Malan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was ready to make the switch from HS+ to CFE until I saw an
> enhancement request on Tigris that led me to believe you can't assign
> your own keyboard shortcuts to tags and snippets. That alone was
> enough for me to sn
I was ready to make the switch from HS+ to CFE until I saw an
enhancement request on Tigris that led me to believe you can't assign
your own keyboard shortcuts to tags and snippets. That alone was
enough for me to snuggle back up with Homesite+...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:23:21 -0400, Stan Winches
I would like to be able to right click on tags to open a tag editor like
in HS.
It would be nice if HS/CF Studio snippets could be imported.
>Hi Robert,
>
>Can you give some more details on what would need to mature in cfeclipse
>before you would switch to it?
>
>Spike
>
>Robert Munn wrote:
>>
Hi Robert,
Can you give some more details on what would need to mature in cfeclipse
before you would switch to it?
Spike
Robert Munn wrote:
> Homesite+ is legacy code, a Windows-only IDE. Supporting CFEclipse or
> DreamWeaver enhancements to add in the features that you like about HS+ is a
>
Homesite+ is legacy code, a Windows-only IDE. Supporting CFEclipse or
DreamWeaver enhancements to add in the features that you like about HS+ is a
more realistic goal, IMHO. I like HS+, but it no longer makes sense to support
platform-dependent environments. I'd love to use Linux as my desktop O
finitely need better
instructions on how to build and deploy the latest version.
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
I hope it isn't too annoying :-/
There a
t; From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>I'm not sure wha
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:28:46 -0500, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, it's really annoying having to wait for spike to build the latest
> CFEclipse. I would like to be able to grab the bleeding age version and
> have it install automatically through the updater, or at least have some
> instru
pdates stuff works, but couldn't
> you have a separate 'channel' for bleeding edge? Then only the people that
> wanted it would be notified.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:20 PM
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> What issues did you run into with phpeclipse?
Phpeclipse doesn't have a software update repository, you have to
install it manually then do "eclipse -clean". The problem is that this
doesn't work reliably, it seems to only w
ssage-
From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
> -Original Message-
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.
> What sort of Ec
2005 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
Damien McKenna wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean.
>>What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
>
Damien McKenna wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean.
>>What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
>
>
> The software updates system.
ok, thanks. That makes sense now.
>
>
>>Anything we can do to make cfecl
> -Original Message-
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.
> What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
The software updates system.
> Anything we can do to make cfeclipse easier to work with is
> of interest,
CFEclipse isn't the probl
Kind of reminds me of the way that the server model for DW only supports one
server side technology per site...
-Original Message-
From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: Homesite enhancement project
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:07:16 -0500, Damien McKenna
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I can't help but think you are talking about CFEclipse. What happened?
> > What do you mean not hosting their files correctly?
>
> I do devel
I'm not sure what you mean.
What sort of Eclipse file repository are you referring to?
Anything we can do to make cfeclipse easier to work with is of interest,
so I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate a bit more on the issues
you ran into.
Spike
Damien McKenna wrote:
>>-Original Mess
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I can't help but think you are talking about CFEclipse. What happened?
> What do you mean not hosting their files correctly?
I do development with CFML and PHP, along with the requisite XHTML, XML,
CSS and JS. I need an edito
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:14 -0500, Damien McKenna
> I'm personally sick of Dreamweaver, I don't really like Eclipse (it
> isn't helped by some plugin developers not hosting their files
> correctly)
I can't help but think you are talking about CFEclipse. What happened?
What do you mean not hosti
Andy,
Oh I think that Macromedia will eventually open source Homesite. If
you can wait until 2007 :<).
Rick Mason
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:33:13 +, Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think if Homesite was available again it would take off big -
> especially as a sourceforge (dare
Sounds like a great idea to me. I bought DWMX to get HS+, personally.
Needed another license. I don't so much mind that given current
pricing is lower than CFStudio was, but I also don't expect to see
much in the way of new HS+ features down the road. This would at
least attempt to address the
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Surely the big problem would be to let MM release it? I can't
> see them ever doing that for obvious reason of competetion?
Note that I wasn't thinking of distributing Homesite itself but just
enhancements, plugins.
lk
Subject: Re: OT: Homesite enhancement project?
I think if Homesite was available again it would take off big -
especially as a sourceforge (dare i say free) project. No doubt there
whatsoever, the tone of the board has shown this time and time again.
Surely the big problem would be to let MM rel
I think if Homesite was available again it would take off big -
especially as a sourceforge (dare i say free) project. No doubt there
whatsoever, the tone of the board has shown this time and time again.
Surely the big problem would be to let MM release it? I can't see them
ever doing that for obvi
Would it be worthwhile starting a Sourceforge project to promote
Homesite and to centralize development of Homesite enhancements?
I'm personally sick of Dreamweaver, I don't really like Eclipse (it
isn't helped by some plugin developers not hosting their files
correctly) and don't like any of the
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