Python is a fantastic language - it's up there with ColdFusion for
general ease-of-coding in my opinion. If you'd like a very concise and
well-written introduction, this book, Learning Python by O'Reilly
(http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lpython/) is great.
One great thing about Python is the in
This sounds fantastic!
Would you be able to write Java applications in Jython (I am assuming
that Python is a lot easier to write than Java code) to run on Cell
Phones?
:-)
Where can I get Jython?
err...I guess I could Google it...
-Gel
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From: Jim Campbell [mailt
If anyone is in Boston on Wednesday, Dec 13, the CEO of Zope Corporation will be presenting an overview of Zope at the Boston Linux and Unix Group at MIT.
http://www.blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2003-dec
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From: Glen Salisbury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October
> the syntax and pecadilloes of Python (tabbing and whitespace are VERY
> important) it's fairly straightforward.
...and you say that with a straight face.
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I assume you could - Whatever you write in Jython is going to be usable
Java bytecode, so implementing J2ME should be quite possible. However,
you might be limited in what tools you can use, since Jython is a J2SE
application, and J2ME doesn't have quite the range of capabilities of
J2SE (I ha
:) On the internet, no one can see you laughing. That, and pretty much
any Python IDE will keep your code nice and clean. I've made the
mistake of writing Python in Notepad and had way too many problems with
just that.
- Jim
Paul Hastings wrote:
> > the syntax and pecadilloes of Python (tab
> We always done Coldfusion but despite the fact that he is not
> technical, he's certain that the project we are doing could be
> built faster in Zope. Despite that I've already made a case
> that Zope market is tiny, (try doing a job search on it) and
> that none of the dev team knows Python
Whitespace in the code is important?
In this day and age that seems pretty backward :-)
-Gel
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From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:) On the internet, no one can see you laughing. That, and pretty much
any Python IDE will keep your code nice and clean.
> Whitespace in the code is important?
>
> In this day and age that seems pretty backward :-)
Why does it seem backward? In older programming languages, whitespace isn't
important, and you need metacharacters to tell you when lines end, or to
show you where code blocks begin and end. In "real" l
>Whitespace in the code is important?
>
>In this day and age that seems pretty backward :-)
The whitespace has to do with horizontal whitespace (tabs) predominantly.
When coding and "if" statement, for example, there's no concept of curly
braces to surround your code block with. You tab-indent f
Whitespace in Python's been a contentious issue from the get-go.
Essentially, whitespace is used instead of punctuation to specify a
"block" of code (I lifted this example from Wikipedia):
def factorial(x):
if x == 0:
return 1
else:
return x * factorial(x-1)
While in C,
> show you where code blocks begin and end. In "real" languages, like
English,
> we often use whitespace to provide information.
well english is kind of like, well "olde" and usually no human being stops
working if we misplace a space or two. i used to work in a macro language
(AML used to control
>>In this day and age that seems pretty backward
How about Fortran then? ;-)
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>>Basically the same thing, and I find it to be a little easier to read
without all those brackets,
It depends how you use brackets. Personally I use them as blank lines, a little like it would look in Python,
and mostly: no braket when it is not necessary.
Your piece of code would ;ook like:
in
Not only is he non technical, but also non logical. Even if it's true that you can build applications faster in Zope, you still have to factor in the time it will take you/your team to learn it and get to know the ins and outs of it.
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From: Glen Salisbury
To: C
>>In older programming languages, whitespace isn't important,
Depends how old you're thinking.
Back in 60's and 70's, THE language was FORTRAN, on punched cards;
Columns 1 to 5 were for a statement label (number), column 6 was for a continuation mark,
columns 7 to 71 were for a statement, and col
to another language, you'll still
have crappy code, just in another language...')
-nathan strutz
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From: brob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS Zope (Python) ... HELP!!
Not only is he non tec
I wasn't even a gleam in my parents eye at that point in time. ;-)
Stace
_
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 10, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS Zope (Python) ... HELP!!
>>In older programming languages, whitespace isn&
If it helps any, I've just started implementing Zope on my personal server,
but code in CF professionally. My experience thus far is that Zope does
have a lot of potential to make life easy. I've installed Plone on top of
Zope, then within an hour, I had a basic web site up and running, with
edit
nt: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS Zope (Python) ... HELP!!
If it helps any, I've just started implementing Zope on my personal
server,
but code in CF professionally. My experience thus far is that Zope does
have a lot of potential to make l
Just do a search on hotjobs and prepare to be blown away by the vast
listings
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From: Glen Salisbury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS Zope (Python) ... HELP!!
Thanks for the feedback
sues is learning while architecting a large project.
> It's true learning on company time is a big perk. Does anyone see
> Python and/or Zope and professionally marketable skill?
>
> - Glen
>
> From: Shawn Grover
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: CF-T
> Thanks for the feedback everyone. Zope doesn't sound as
> bad as it seems. Only issues is learning while architecting
> a large project. It's true learning on company time is a
> big perk. Does anyone see Python and/or Zope and
> professionally marketable skill?
There aren't too many people
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From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS Zope (Python) ... HELP!!
If it helps any, I've just started implementing Zope on my personal
server,
but code in CF professionally. My experience thus f
> Thanks for the feedback everyone. Zope doesn't sound as bad as
> it seems. Only issues is learning while architecting a large project.
> It's true learning on company time is a big perk. Does anyone see
> Python and/or Zope and professionally marketable skill?
>
Python, absolutely. Zope, not so
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