Well sort of.we developed our platform after about a decade of work
with BC fisheries.but it's a globally available platform and is in
use in the Northeast US and BCmore coming online soon.and a new
website for it.
We've actually dropped OpenBD for AIR onboardOpenBD was
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:16 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.comwrote:
Don't get me wrong, WordPress is great. But it's not anything astounding.
And it is slow.
I run WordPress on our own servers, and it is nothing like as slow as you
report.
--
mac jordan
www.kestrel.org |
because
the tags to invoke them are usually restricted.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:05 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC
Well, I've definitely seen hosts block createObject(component) as well.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
I think you misunderstand what he meant ray, CFC's are not blocked, that
would be silly, , but some of the functionality BlogCFC and many other
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Wordpress does a hell of a lot more than just blogging these days ray.You
can build an entire site with it.
You can build a entire site with Mura CMS as well :-)
http://getmura.com/
well if they do that then they clealry have no idea no what they are doing
with CF, as many don't.
The only things that need to be disabled are
CFEXECUTE
CFREGISTRY
Createobject(com)
CreateObject(java)
It it a bit of a catch 22 though, as most customers need CreateObject(java)
these days, if
What's the login?
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:58 AM, mac jordan mac.jor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:16 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com
wrote:
Don't get me wrong, WordPress is great. But it's not anything astounding.
And it is slow.
I run WordPress on
Well the shy can of course be a personal decision.
For me I check out alternatives to give my clients the best possible
service and so I know what is availablebut they...that's me ;-)
it was also the ability to have a complete web app running onboard
fishing vessels disconnectedwith
but then again much of the Adobe web site is done in JSP:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=39platform=Windows
SIGH!!!
It would be pretty dumb if Adobe rewrote their existing site just to
make CF people feel better. The Adobe site is HUGE. Adobe also has a
lot of
as I often tell people, use the best tool for the job, which is not always
CF.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
but then again much of the Adobe web site is done in JSP:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=39platform=Windows
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Richard Steele wrote:
Yes, that's true, except I'd be concerned about no security patches.
So naturally you Google;s for ColdFusion EOL and found
http://www.adobe.com/support/products/enterprise/eol/eol_matrix.html#63
Adobe is classified as an Enterprise
Hey, we always have room on the BlogCFC team too. ;)
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC and Mango - I'm sure it
is. Yet oddly - I've been successfully blogging for years (as have
hundreds of Mango and BlogCFC users). Maybe I don't know what I'm
missing, but I'm certainly getting content
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC and Mango -I'm sure it is.
That depends how you define better. I use both and bog.cfc is way faster
than WP. Page loads with blog.cfc is like flipping channels on the tv.
G!
On Aug 10, 2011 5:47 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
Which reminds me - most of the speed in BlogCFC came from time spent
using our built in Server Monitor and Debugging output. It's
incredible how useful that is. But that's useful info and probably OT
for this thread. ;)
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
Wordpress does a hell of a lot more than just blogging these days ray.You
can build an entire site with it.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote:
Hey, we always have room on the BlogCFC team too. ;)
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC and
you probably have a lot of errors. You really need to turn on the debugging
and have a look, there are often plugins that conflict with each other or
are not compatible with current version and as result you can have tons of
error sin the background.
You also need to make sure you are using
Cool, When I need my blog to do more than blog, I'll look into it. ;)
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Wordpress does a hell of a lot more than just blogging these days ray.You
can build an entire site with it.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:46 PM,
Nah, WordPress is just slow. Clicking Dashboard takes up to 5 seconds for me
on the hosted version consistently.
And WordPress does seem to do some pretty intelligent ( though slow as crap
) caching on every change to any of your content, which is worth it to them
and their scale I'm sure but
I should probably clarify that the rest of the web for me is nearly instant
and I have an average ping of about 4 ms. In other words WordPress being
slow is based on repeat observation, not a potential one-off fluctuation.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, David McGuigan
So you're talking about the hosted Wordpress service rather than installing
and running Wordpress on your own server...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.comwrote:
Nah, WordPress is just slow. Clicking Dashboard takes up to 5 seconds for
me
on the hosted
, 2011 5:37 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Which reminds me - most of the speed in BlogCFC came from time spent
using our built in Server Monitor and Debugging output. It's
incredible how useful that is. But that's useful info and probably OT
for this thread. ;)
On Wed, Aug 10
Very astute observation.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote:
So you're talking about the hosted Wordpress service rather than installing
and running Wordpress on your own server...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM, David McGuigan
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From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:05 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC and Mango -I'm sure it is.
That depends how you define better. I use both and bog.cfc is way faster
than WP
Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:05 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
As for WP being so much better than BlogCFC and Mango -I'm sure it is.
That depends how you define better. I use both and bog.cfc is way faster
than WP. Page loads
+100 Such hosting companies are doing a great disservice to the CFML
community. Don't use 'em.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote:
Using a host that blocks CFCs is like buying a car that can't go over 10
MPH.
Stop sending these folks your business.
If they are paying me...who am I to complain ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:05 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Using a host that blocks CFCs is like buying a car that can't go over 10
I'm concerned that at some point Adobe will pull the plug on CF as free PHP
continues to grow its user base. I know that there is an open source
version of CF, but I'm not sure if it has Enterprise features such as the
ability to create load balanced multiple instances. What's the general
Yes 10 is in the works, maybe you should read some more tweets and blogs on
the subject. Sorry if that sounds negative, but Adobe has too much invested
in this to just pull it.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Richard Steele
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:
I'm concerned that at some point Adobe will pull the plug on CF as free PHP
continues to grow its user base. I know that there is an open source version
of CF, but I'm not sure if it has Enterprise features such as the
Sorry, not predicting its imminent death, just was concerned, that's all.
Somehow when I googled it I didn't see any Coldfusion 10 references other than
wish list items (must have misspelled it in the search).
Ok by me if we kill this thread. Sorry!
Yes, that's true, except I'd be concerned about no security patches.
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive:
Here we go again.has it been 2 months already!! ;-)
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 13:00 -0400, Richard Steele wrote:
I'm concerned that at some point Adobe will pull the plug on CF as free PHP
continues to grow its user base. I know that there is an open source version
of CF, but I'm not sure
plus even if CF did die, we could all continue on Railo just fine as well.
Sure you may have to workaround a few Adobe specific features and rewrite
some code, but it could be done.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Bryan Stevenson
br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote:
Here we go again.has
You could always read the ColdFusion Developer Team Blog.
http://blogs.adobe.com/coldfusion/2011/06/08/next-version-of-coldfusion-is-codenamed-zeus/
Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com
wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com
On
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Here we go again.has it been 2 months already!! ;-)
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 13:00 -0400, Richard Steele wrote:
I'm concerned that at some point Adobe will pull the plug on CF as free
PHP continues to grow its user base. I know that there is an open
Nope, I'm a CF advocate. Ok by me that we kill this thread!
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive:
Richard,
The next version of ColdFusion, code name Zeus is on its way...
Here are some resources for you about it:
- Next version of ColdFusion is codenamed Zeus
http://blogs.adobe.com/coldfusion/2011/06/08/next-version-of-coldfusion-is-codenamed-zeus/
- ColdFusion X Writeup
Kill it with fire.
On Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:
Nope, I'm a CF advocate. Ok by me that we kill this thread!
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
How sad is it that the ColdFusion team blog is using WordPress? Why not
BlogCFC or MangoBlog?
andy
-Original Message-
From: Guust Nieuwenhuis [mailto:i...@lagaffe.be]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Richard,
The next
...@commadelimited.comwrote:
How sad is it that the ColdFusion team blog is using WordPress? Why not
BlogCFC or MangoBlog?
andy
-Original Message-
From: Guust Nieuwenhuis [mailto:i...@lagaffe.be]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
WordPress? Why not
BlogCFC or MangoBlog?
andy
-Original Message-
From: Guust Nieuwenhuis [mailto:i...@lagaffe.be]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Richard,
The next version of ColdFusion, code name Zeus
or MangoBlog?
andy
-Original Message-
From: Guust Nieuwenhuis [mailto:i...@lagaffe.be]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
Richard,
The next version of ColdFusion, code name Zeus is on its way...
Here are some resources
How sad is it that the ColdFusion team blog is using WordPress? Why not
BlogCFC or MangoBlog?
Well, I kid you not, but for a little while the Microsoft Developer Network
site was done in Cold Fusion. They changed that rather quickly. I would hope
Adobe would do the same...
but then again
I'm moving everything to Railo, and loving it. Wish I had done it a
year ago, and saved myself some significant headaches.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
plus even if CF did die, we could all continue on Railo just fine as well.
Sure you may have to
I had the opposite experience. Became overjoyed to stick with Adobe CF to
avoid the significant headaches of Railo.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm moving everything to Railo, and loving it. Wish I had done it a
year ago, and saved myself some
...@michaels.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
probably because Wordpress does what they need as it does everything. even
Mangoblog has a long way to go before it will come close.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM, andy matthews
li
David...Maureenyou should both try OpenBD then ;-)
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 15:24 -0600, David McGuigan wrote:
I had the opposite experience. Became overjoyed to stick with Adobe CF to
avoid the significant headaches of Railo.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Maureen
But why when Adobe CF is so freaking sweet? I was only checking Railo out
for the performance advantage I'd heard about, but then I stumbled upon a
lil' something called Trusted Cache hee hee.
Also my Railo dabblings were 1 year ago so hopefully installation and set
up has significantly
On 8/9/2011 1:00 PM, Richard Steele wrote:
I'm concerned that at some point Adobe will pull the plug on CF as free PHP
continues to grow its user base. I know that there is an open source version
of CF, but I'm not sure if it has Enterprise features such as the ability to
create load
Well the shy can of course be a personal decision.
For me I check out alternatives to give my clients the best possible
service and so I know what is availablebut they...that's me ;-)
it was also the ability to have a complete web app running onboard
fishing vessels disconnectedwith
Because I was refactoring a large number of websites, and am getting
ready to launch a major new site that will generate a substantial part
of my revenue in the future, I did a very extensive cost benefit ratio
study on all three CF engines, and some memory and performance testing
of my own
It also means you can grab a VPS for $30/mo and run a completely open
source stack, and not have to deal with shared hosting at all.
--
Matthew Williams
Geodesic GraFX
www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog
twitter.com/ophbalance
~|
...@michaels.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 10 and beyond
probably because Wordpress does what they need as it does everything. even
Mangoblog has a long way to go before it will come close.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM, andy matthews
li
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.comwrote:
Also my Railo dabblings were 1 year ago so hopefully installation and set
up has significantly improved
Yup, there are self-contained click-click-done style installers for
Windows, Mac and Linux now.
Also, to
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