[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax ? was: where have all the cf developers gone ?

2006-05-12 Thread Shane Farmer
On 5/10/06, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, and with the hot deployment available now on most java servers,refreshing stuff is only an ant task away.   This can be buggy, especially if the app running on top of the application server does threaded things. I have the reloadable flag set

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-11 Thread Blair McKenzie
There are situations where the choice can make a difference in development and maintenance performance though. In situations where there is heavy output and the coding is (should be?) relatively simple, tags make sense and fit in with the flow. When the purpose of the code is mainly functional and

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-11 Thread Geoff Bowers
>Well pre CFMX the cfscript did used to run faster, but now that it is Java >based for Coldfusion this argument is now debatable. What is debatable is that anyone on this list was working in an environment where the performance difference between CFSCRIPT and tags on <=CF5 was ever a factor that

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-11 Thread Steve Onnis
now i know what the sound of beating a dead horse sounds like -Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Patrick BranleySent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:14 AMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-11 Thread Patrick Branley
On 5/11/06, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/10/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Two things wrong with Tag based code.>> 1. Other developers when they see ColdFusion code hate it and immediately > dismiss it as not a real languageI hate those clowns, not because I am a Coldf

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-11 Thread Scott Barnes
On 5/10/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Two things wrong with Tag based code. > > 1. Other developers when they see ColdFusion code hate it and immediately > dismiss it as not a real language I hate those clowns, not because I am a Coldfusion Disciple but simply because they appear

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Joel Cass
back. But it wasn't slower either, so what you say is true..   Joel -Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of M@ BourkeSent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 7:46 PMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Andrew Scott
studio 4.5 every now and then.>>> Joel>>> -Original Message- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com]On Behalf> Of M@ Bourke> Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 7:46 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Stanton
ent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 7:46 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax? > > >I only use cfscript to improve the speed of things > > How so? > you mean writing it?? > as cfml hasn't been any slower then cfscript

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Joel Cass
ooglegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of M@ BourkeSent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 7:46 PMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?>I only use cfscript to improve the speed of thingsHow so?you mean writing it??as cfml hasn't

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Joel Cass
or the most part it looks like javascript.. My three cents (my balance is now at ten cents.. woohoo) Joel -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 10:26 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cf

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread Joel Cass
uot; & z[i] & ""); i=i+1; } Yes, that is Java in CFSCRIPT. Stuff ECMA. We have Java -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joel Cass Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 5:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaus

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-10 Thread M@ Bourke
>I only use cfscript to improve the speed of thingsHow so?you mean writing it??as cfml hasn't been any slower then cfscript since mx came out. back in the olden days cfscript was faster but these days its all compiled to the same old byte code M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~---

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-09 Thread Steve Onnis
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:26 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax? Two things wrong with Tag based code. 1. Other developers when they see ColdFusion code hate it and immediately dismiss it as not a

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax ? was: where have all the cf developers gone ?

2006-05-09 Thread Haikal Saadh
I don't mind using tags for tags, i.e., custom tags that are mostly display elements. For anything that contains logic, I prefer to use cfscript. I find it easier to read/write than tag soup. Oh, and with the hot deployment available now on most java servers, refreshing stuff is only an ant t

[cfaussie] Re: Whats so bad about the tag syntax?

2006-05-09 Thread Dale Fraser
Two things wrong with Tag based code. 1. Other developers when they see ColdFusion code hate it and immediately dismiss it as not a real language 2. You need to write about double the amount of code every time for (i=1; i<=10; i++) { } See the differences in the amount of characters typed