I'm not getting into the whole to breed or not to breed topic
here, but I do have one comment to make:
Accidents can and WILL happen, Nonnie. You may not have had one yet,
but your time will come... as will everyone else's here. ~Lacey
In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Nonnie [EMAIL
Obviously you haven't or you would know that a BYB is a person that breeds without any thought to the animal, or any gentic defect that could be passed to offspring. BYBs often have three or more dogs in a cage that is hardly big enough for one, and the only time they see the dogs is to feed,
I will admit I may be wrong about the abuse, but that is my opinion. Your posts suggests it, so that will always be my opinion. I highly doubt you have a active group of your own much less a very active group. I'm sure you have a group, I just don't believe it is all that active. I'm glad I
Marsha or whomever may have an answer Is it true that some chi's will not show until right before they are to deliver? Yes, it's me again, just wondering if someone else has experenced this before. Sometimes I see signs that she maybe showing and at times she looks the same. I know that
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I
can't have an accident I have a spayed female and a neutered male. My time
won't come!!! Trust me. Accidents only happen when people fail to
plan. Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.
The
people who have the most outrage are the BYB's.
Nonnie
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i
think it should be PUBLIC because there are many people on this list who really
need to give what they are doing a second thought though I doubt seriously they
will. Its a cash cow breeding puppies And many people on this
list are totally unscrupulous in my opinion.
Okay look here Nonnie, quit slamming everyone. All my dogs are fixed, and I have no desire to breed any animal. I think some of your points are valid, but this isn't a black and white topic. This group was formed as an exchange of ideas, and its admirable that you are willing to defend your
I just re-read through the last couple postings, and I think we should
just drop this. I picked this group, because I love my chi. I think
they are an awesome breed. I know you all must feel the same,
because To know a Chi, is to love a Chi! LOL.
Lets talk about our wonderful little
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Toni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just re-read through the last couple postings, and I think we
should
just drop this. I picked this group, because I love my chi. I
think
they are an awesome breed. I know you all must feel the same,
because To know a
Lucy has been in a playpen since I took her out of the dog crate
months ago. She has one upstairs in my office. I work at home. She
also has one downstairs in the living room. She doesn't seem to mind
being in it at all provided she has her chewies and toys.
I take the pad to hers out to the
What this person was refering to was your attack on Marsha because a accident happened to her dog that killed it; and your time will come. Some day your dog is going to have a accident that will kill him/her. It happens to everyone, and you are not excluded. Not knowing your son is going to get
I can not argue with that!!! Chi's are like chips, you can't have just one. Carrie
---Original Message---
From: Toni
Date: 9/17/2006 10:54:03 AM
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Chihuahuas] I think Marsha is right..
I just re-read through the last couple postings, and
Amen
Enough is enough
Linda in Tennessee
Peace is seeing a sunset and knowing who to thank
---Original Message---
From: cherufus
Date: 09/17/06 11:41:38
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: I think Marsha is right..
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com,
I wasn't referring to a breeding accident, but rather a health
accident. You were talking about the death of Marsha's chi. You
never know when something may happen. I'm not saying that one of
your animals could be killed purposely, but something could happen
accidentally. One of your pets
Very well said Jennifer, Now I will probably tick her off even more. Nonnie, I have 5 cats, two Chi's, 20 canaries and 60+ (who counts) guinea pigs. Not one of whom stays in the back yard. lol. I raise to improve the breed in guinea pigs - which I show and Judge. My excess is for any 4-H'er who
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ask
marsha what her son had done BEFORE This incident. He put Marsha in the hospital
i believe iwth broken ribs cause he beat on her. Oh this isn't the
incident that made her a BYB it was her conversations and information she has
divulged that makes me know she is a BYB.
Hi Jennifer, I have been on the group since Feb. and I hardly post anymore.. I only get the daily digest now instead of the e-mails and in part it is because I got tired of worrying if I said something I get Nonnie'd.. So I have decided that since the owner of the group doesn't care enough to
Folks, I may be telling tales out of school, but let's try to
be a bit calmer, everybody, and a little bit patient with Nonnie. She has
some very serious health issues, and that plus her passion for rescue may
sometimes make her a little bit quick to flare up. We all have topics that
we
Where in the world is the owner of this group and why in the world is Nonnie still on this group? Enough people have complained about her for the owner to eliminate her from the group.I realize we all have opinions and we are all free to voice those opinions but this woman is just downright
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you
said your chi ALAYS goes 3 days over.. How many times have you bred this poor
female. Hmmm
You
may be here because you love your chi. If you love your chi I hope its
healthy and not some kind of chi that has some defects that may or may not
surface or be passed
I agree with you ,, but feelings have been hurt for some time. It
needs to stop .. You are right. We all have opinions and they need to
be respected.. That is what I said in my post.. Nonnie has been having
her say for a long time but feelings have been hurt for some time. I
find it to be
You are a mean spiteful person, Nonnie. I'm new to the list, have been staying out of this drama, but here you have definitely crossed the line.
Perhaps your parents should have reconsidered breeding before bringing YOU into this world.
-- Original message -- From:
Nonnie , I know Marsha and she is living with the ghosts of that
terrible day.. She is aware of this and I am sure it is painful to
her and just as my son has done things that got him in a world of
trouble I won't share that for fear of it coming back to bite me
later. Only what my son did
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Obviously if you are not a breeder and ALL your dogs are fixed you can
not say I am slamming everyone because it is obvious that I'm not slamming
you.
Ask
yourself this question when does a BYB become a puppy mill. I don't call a
reputable breeder a BYB but most of the
Nonnie , we all have our own way of dealing with pain. NObody
should judge that.. As far as the trailer trash that is really
uncalled for . I live in a very nice home (though not big-- 1100 sq
ft) with 1.08 acres. but I now live a quiet life. At one time I had
teenage children and my one son
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And by
the way, I neither breed nor buy dogs. I had 4. My 2 older cocker
spaniels had to be helped to the bridge at 15 and 16 years of age. My 2
that are left, the Punk is a 6 pound chi that was given to me at 12 weeks of age
outside of Walmarts on a cold November day
Well Nonnie, you think nobody here should be a breeder.. You know
nothing about many of the people. What made you God?? What criteia
do you have to make judgements?? What makes you think you know all
the right from wrongs?? You are just a Nasty ugly woman and
rescuing dogs is all you can do
Well, Nonnie, WHAT IS A PUPPY MILL TO YOU?? DESCRIBE PLEASE IN
DETAIL.. THANKS. CINDY
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Nonnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A puppy mill starts with one puppy you folks need to THINK on
what i'm
saying...
I present a side which is important and should
Well said Toni Nash!! Cindy
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, toni nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay look here Nonnie, quit slamming everyone. All my dogs are
fixed, and I have no desire to breed any animal. I think some of
your points are valid, but this isn't a black and white topic.
Hi new member.. I to was a new member and quit posting a while back
but when it comes to my attention that member's are being hurt
(feelings) then I find that is not right.. Everybody has just
avoided this person for a long time. When I joined , my
introduction was a private e-mail saying
Sorry. Normally I like to try to open the eyes, and shut the mouths of people like Nonnie with common sence, (People like her don't have a shred of it.) but YOU GO GIRL/MAN! Jennifer.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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you
can doubt all you want to. PS Nobody would ever off you a million
dollars let alone a billion dollars... and no you won't be receiving an invite
to my group!
My
comments may just save one dog from being unwanted and bred by an ignorant
person!
Nonnie
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you
have the wrong idea of a BYB. Justify breeding your 4 horses when the
House of Rep Bill 503 is going to the senate What is so special about your
horses. I have 2 horses. One gelding and one mare. My mare
will die a virgin although she and her relatives have numerous
My comments may just save one dog from being unwanted and bred by an ignorant personNo they won't because of the way you talk to people. Just like calling people names. If you said what you had to say in a nice way maybe you would change some peoples minds maybe not. The way you
Thanks to a member,this new member looked closer at the posts by Know
it all Nonnie.I strived to give her the benefit of the doubt in my
first post,but this latest line of drivvel is ludicrous.Tell me Oh so
rich Nonnie,how many of our members houses have you gone to to
formulate your opinion
here herewillowcowdog1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you ,, but feelings have been hurt for some time. It needs to stop .. You are right. We all have opinions and they need to be respected.. That is what I said in my post.. Nonnie has been having her say for a long time but
Enough bad things Let me tell you about my fencing problems lol.
1. Not a lot of money.
2. Even chain link fencing doesn't work on furbabies.
3. I HATE PRIVACY FENCING!
4. How to fence in a 2lb baby?
Okay what you do is go to Home Depot and dump said 2lb baby on the
counter at Customer
Hi, all.
It is clear to me that the owner has abandoned this
group. That is the reason Nonnie hasn't been kicked out, and banned.
However I have an idea that will fix this Nonnie problem. Since the
owner has abandoned this group; I propose that we do the same, and
form our own
Is okay with me let me know what others decide"Jennifer Lynn Rasch." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all.It is clear to me that the owner has abandoned this group. That is the reason Nonnie hasn't been kicked out, and banned. However I have an idea that will fix this Nonnie problem. Since the
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that
is the most laughable thing you've said yet today Jennifer. Make a group
of all like minded people.. Well hint hint there are many groups devoted to
breeding.. Gee do we kick out and ban anyone who disagrees with your
thinking. Gee did you ever hear of the Right to
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I'm
rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! You are so
funny!!!
HSN?
I
never said how ruch
Its
only slander or Liable when it isn't true. When you say something that IS
the truth it IS the Truth...
Nonnie
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We all
have individual styles of speaking dependant upon our education and
socio-economic class etc. Take my message put it in whatever words makes
you nice, warm fuzzy. You pickON the way I say things. I'm
not your typical average level intelligence person. I
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Gee
Toni... if you aren't breeding then why would you even think my posts even
applied to you to warrant an answer from you? I am glad you rescue
dogs. I am sure you look into their loving eyes and think what if I hadn't
stepped to the plate to save them!
Nonnie
We all have individual styles of speaking dependant upon our education and socio-economic class etc. Take my message put it in whatever words makes you nice, warm fuzzy. You pickON the way I say things. I'm not your typical average level intelligence person. I am direct,
If that is the case , you are welcome to join my little Chi
Expressions group.. IF you decide to do that just write on the
application that you are on this group and want peace from the
bickering. Cindy
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer Lynn Rasch.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
to the idea of going to a new group with out all the bashing.. I have
had a small group called ChiExpressions since Feb 6th, you guys have
always been welcomed. I would never take away members from a group but
several of you are already on it already.. If you want on then fill
out the
PLEASE STOP THISAND DO NOT ADD TO THIS IGNORANCE BY RESPONDING TO
THIS PERSON.
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and you get to decide what is truth? NO THANKSNonnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! You are so funny!!!HSN?I never said how ruch Its only slander or Liable when it isn't true. When you say something that IS the truth it IS the
What you are missing Nonnie is manners. We don't want a group where everyone agrees with us, but we do want a group where everyone that disagrees with us has the manners to do it properly. Which you clearly don't have. In fact all, I propouse that that be the name of our new group. The
Can we stop this topic already. We have given this topic its
fifteen minutes of fame, And the fifteen minutes are done. Everyone had their
say and that's it let it be just that her opinion. Don't let it get to you all,
please. We are here to learn from each other about how we can help
Just wanted to make one note of correction. My children are
both adopted. Both are special needs children. They have lived with me on and
off a big part of their lives, but our adoption was only finalized in 2001. The
abuse they suffered from the hands of their biological parents is a
Nonnie , if you disagree with breeding then state it and drop it.
You are negitive and hurtful. YOu go on and on and say things that
you have no idea of ie, our homes , our back yard., and that we are
byb.. You have no idea where we live and what you are doing is
wrong..
You are entitled to
Marsha you do not owe anyone an explanation. You do the best you can and Nonnie is way out of line. Annamarsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to make one note of correction. My children are both adopted. Both are special needs children. They have lived with me on and off a
Marsha , you are a good mom. Don't have to justify yourself. You
have done a good thing here and never let anyone hurt you with
this.. Cindy
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, marsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wanted to make one note of correction. My children are both
adopted.
Go to my web site. on the front page at the very top it says join my
group. Click in there. It will take you to the group. www.cindyrillis-
chihuahuas.net Cindy
--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, Anna Hartge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do i find it
willowcowdog1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me started on fencing, lol. I have a fenced in back yard.
It works well to let all the chis go potty except Ginger. She gets
out of the smallest holes, lol. I had my fence put up by
professionals, but it didn't do the job, so what I did was dig a
trench and bury the bottom of the
go to my website and on the top of the front page it says to join this
group click here.. www.cindyrillis-chihuahuas.net. When you apply make
sure you put your name and say something about your self. Cindy
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I was hoping Cindy would mention her group here. I so wanted her too,
but it wasn't my place!! lol. Now that she has mentioned it, I would
like to join her in extending that invitation to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the MAJOR things that Cindy
requires of her group and that is also what makes it
Marsha , I solved that problem I went to the old road signs shop
and got the Road Closed signs.. They are big and I put them where
the gaps are in the gates.. I paid almost $3,000 in fencing when I
moved here 2 years ago and even ran it under the dirt and planted
grass.. Well then they
Anna,
I was just asking Cindy last night if it would be ok to send
you a private invitation to the group. I think you are the type who would really
enjoy it!
Marsha
- Original Message -
From:
willowcowdog1
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 17,
I wish I could help out, but as has been made perfectly clear here, I am
a poor person. :-( But, I will certainly send up prayers for your baby
and for you as well. Also, I have a list of several organizations that
provide finacial assistance for emergancy vet bills. If you would like
the list
Thank you Marsha!!! I could not for the life of me remember Sh--.
Anyway, I want whoever to enjoy.. As Marsha stated , I would rather
stay small then deal with tons of fighing.. Can't handle it. YOu
have the right to state your opinion.. My attitude is if we are all
enjoying ourself then fine,
Are you sure she isn't just climbing over. My friend has a Chi that can climb a 6ft fence with no trouble - he is afraid to try an 8ft one she might break her fool neck.ownedbychis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't get me started on fencing, lol. I have a fenced in back yard. It works well to
Marsha, type this..
www.cindyrillis-chihuahuas.net
It doesn't high light for me. I am on daily digest and I guess it is
different then e-mail. It makes it easier then for people to
look ..Cindy Thanks
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I
didn't notice you taking offense when the person said I was old and ugly
hmmm. how come you didn't call that person to task but instead say my
comment was out of line??? Is there a double standard?
Nonnie
Lets
see if you have the intellectual wits to step up to
thank u so much could u please email me the list i need all the help ican
get
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Cindy, we are so pathetic when we can't find our own groups
aren't we?? lol Remember just the other day I was asking about my site
that I lost??? lol
OK, for all who missed Cindy's yahoo group, the address to go
to is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The address for Cindy's personal website
Nonnie you don't have to tell us what level of intelligence you have as you have made it very plain to all of us exactly what level of intelligence you are on! I doubt if any of us have any doubt what so ever of what level of mentality we are dealing with here.And yes you do have a small chi
With all respect I hope your dog is okay. I save and put on my
credit card for stuff like that. I wish I could help you..
RESCUE GROUPS HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO HELP.. Maybe Nonnie would
know something about this and could guide you to a positive
solution.. I do believe Nonnie has some
No, I actually watch the little devil go right through,
lol
Marsha
- Original Message -
From:
Anna
Hartge
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:23
PM
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: the fencing
saga
Are you sure she isn't
see you theremarsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anna, I was just asking Cindy last night if it would be ok to send you a private invitation to the group. I think you are the type who would really enjoy it! Marsha- Original Message - From: willowcowdog1 To: [EMAIL
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properly in whose opinion?
Nonnie
-Original Message-From:
Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jennifer T'Pina RaschSent: Sunday, September 17, 2006
8:35 PMTo: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[Chihuahuas] Idea to
I think our post passed in cyber space, but just in
case.
www.cindyrillis-chihuahuas.net
Marsha
- Original Message -
From:
willowcowdog1
To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:34
PM
Subject: [Chihuahuas] Marsha
Marsha,
Nonnie , the waters are so muddy now .. I could care less anymore.
As I said to you It is okay for you to have your own opinion..
State it and move on That is my part. Nothing more , nothing less.
I only know that I was warned about you when I first joined and I
saw you have neg. comments
Here is the list for anyone who may be interested. It is a cut
and paste, so some of it may not be applicable, but everyone feel free to look
it over to see what may apply and to keep it on file in case an emergency comes
up in the future. :-)
Marsha
Following are a variety of
yes me too. Gizmo is big enough at a year that he cant but Cocoa is only 4mos and she can and does. Of course she is finally big enough that she can't get thru the chain link fence the neighbor has so she is blocked on one side lolmarsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I actually watch
nonnie someone emailed me and told me u might be able to email me some
rescue group link that could help me with my dog blue? could u read my post and
see if u can email me and let me know thanks
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through them all. It may take a little while, so if you don't hear right away,
please understand why. :-)
Marsha
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i post a message because i really desperately need help with my poor dog
and nobody wants to talk to me but i keep getting these emails with people
fighting with somebody named nonnie and i think this is terrible i am brand new
to this group and i cant believe this
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you
still don't address what I am saying.
I told
her to get a second job!
Nonnie
-Original Message-From:
Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
willowcowdog1Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:55
PMTo:
I, too, had just emailed her privately and apologized and asked her what her question was about her fur baby...normajeanmarsha Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize on behalf of the group and myself. Perhaps we missed the post during our fussing. Could you please repost your
Hey guys... I've been lurking here and on other Chi lists for awhile.
Can anyone help me with a group problem I'm having? I can't see any
pictures that you guys posts to a thread. I'd really love to see
them, any help is appreciated!
-Amanda-
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How do you receive your emails? The only way to get the pics
is if you have individual email. If you are on daily digest, you will not be
able to see them. Go to your preference page on the group and check to see if
you are on digest or individual. If you want to see the pics, change to
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