[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Nico Weber
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Nico Weber wrote: >> >> >> At times, we seem to forget the impact of our silent updates.  They are >> >> great for bug/security fixes, but when we do roll out something like >> >> NNTP, >> >> it can lead to

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Amanda Walker
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: > All software, and all browsers, change their UI and capabilities as they > release new versions. Look at how Firefox 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, and 3.5 all had > different main window themes (and not just cosmetically; they moved pieces > around and ch

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Darin Fisher
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Nico Weber wrote: > >> At times, we seem to forget the impact of our silent updates. They are > >> great for bug/security fixes, but when we do roll out something like > NNTP, > >> it can lead to a 'WTF' moment. For future changes like this, it might > make > >

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Nico Weber
>> At times, we seem to forget the impact of our silent updates.  They are >> great for bug/security fixes, but when we do roll out something like NNTP, >> it can lead to a 'WTF' moment.  For future changes like this, it might make >> sense to put in messaging for the upgrade so the users get lead

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Thomas Van Lenten wrote: > At times, we seem to forget the impact of our silent updates. They are > great for bug/security fixes, but when we do roll out something like NNTP, > it can lead to a 'WTF' moment. For future changes like this, it might make > sense to

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Darin Fisher
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Amanda Walker wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > >> Do websites provide users with previous versions after overhauling their >> UX? Some do (gmail seems to), but most do not. You just get to surf the >> latest. Hopefully, the websi

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
The other part of this might just be messaging. It's not uncommon for websites to have a link to let users try out the new experience before it launches. And once it does launch, they always seem to include a "Check out our new look and cool new features..." blurb. So it's sudden switch, but mess

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-25 Thread Amanda Walker
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > Do websites provide users with previous versions after overhauling their > UX? Some do (gmail seems to), but most do not. You just get to surf the > latest. Hopefully, the website changes for the better. That's our burden > to bear. And

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-24 Thread Alice Lin
Preliminary feedback shows that people are having a hard time fully embracing the new tab page. While they love the fact that now they can move, pin, hide thumbnails, other more vocal users are really missing the customized search boxes. We'll continue to monitor. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:43 PM,

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-24 Thread Erik Arvidsson
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 00:26, Mike Belshe wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > >> Do websites provide users with previous versions after overhauling their >> UX? Some do (gmail seems to), but most do not. You just get to surf the >> latest. Hopefully, the website

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-24 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Ben Goodger (Google) wrote: > > One day, we may offer further customization of this page. This may > include the ability to show more items. I think this is preferable to > a "classic view" option, which sets a bad precedent - that every time > we make a UI chan

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Belshe
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Darin Fisher wrote: > Do websites provide users with previous versions after overhauling their > UX? Some do (gmail seems to), but most do not. You just get to surf the > latest. Hopefully, the website changes for the better. That's our burden > to bear. I

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-24 Thread Darin Fisher
Do websites provide users with previous versions after overhauling their UX? Some do (gmail seems to), but most do not. You just get to surf the latest. Hopefully, the website changes for the better. That's our burden to bear. -Darin On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Mike Belshe wrote: > I j

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-23 Thread Brian Rakowski
We did test it in the lab, though we focused on new users who seemed to like it. We also looked at stats which indicated that the Most visited and Recently closed items were the only things that were actually used. The few people who used Recent bookmarks and Searches have been vocal, but we know t

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Belshe
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) wrote: > One day, we may offer further customization of this page. This may > include the ability to show more items. I think this is preferable to > a "classic view" option, which sets a bad precedent - that every time > we make a UI change we

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-23 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
Note that this mode will probably vanish, it's a figment of the transition. -Ben On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Mohamed Mansour wrote: > If you want to use the old new tab page, you can add this chrome switch ( > --old-new-tab-page ) > I personally like the 3x3 grid. I have a 24" screen and t

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-23 Thread Mohamed Mansour
If you want to use the old new tab page, you can add this chrome switch ( --old-new-tab-page ) I personally like the 3x3 grid. I have a 24" screen and the new tab page is so tiny, would of been nice if the user could fully customize it, that is one of the popular features people want on the Chrome

[chromium-dev] Re: Question about UI and "classic views"

2009-09-23 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
One day, we may offer further customization of this page. This may include the ability to show more items. I think this is preferable to a "classic view" option, which sets a bad precedent - that every time we make a UI change we'll carry the burden of supporting the old way too forever. It adds t