Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-18 Thread Jonathan Hays
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > Here's a copy of the message I sent to CertificationZone over two weeks ago > about the ARP errors. I thought they would fix them. > > An ARP frame does not have an IP header. Figure 2 should show a real ARP > frame. Note that the destination is six sets of FFs (not

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 11:40 AM 11/17/01, Jonathan Hays wrote: >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > way, is another set of documents that I trust, (although the ARP tutorial > > has the usual misconceptions in it, which is very disappointing.) > >Priscilla, >I don't remember reading that paper and unfortunately I have

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-17 Thread Jonathan Hays
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > way, is another set of documents that I trust, (although the ARP tutorial > has the usual misconceptions in it, which is very disappointing.) Priscilla, I don't remember reading that paper and unfortunately I have let my membership elapse. Could you share what thes

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread CCIE TB
>Novell uses 802.3 to mean their raw format: Dst Src Length, IPX. >They use 802.2 to mean an ordinary 802.3 frame: 802.3 followed by 802.2. In > >other words, Dest Src Length, DSAP SSAP Control. > >Priscilla > That is from where the confusion is coming. Thanks for the c

RE: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
figure the following commands, one by one: Albany(config-if)#ipx network 400 encapsulation ? arpa Novell Ethernet_II hdlc HDLC on serial links novell-ether Novell Ethernet_802.3 sap IEEE 802.2 on Ethernet, FDDI, Token Ring snap IEEE 802.2 SNAP on Ether

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread jason
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > Where did you get that description of Ethernet frame types? > It's riddled with mistakes, I'm afraid. Posting something I got elsewhere w/o attribution would not be nice. I try to never do something like that. The mistake was swapping the relationship ether II

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Novell uses 802.3 to mean their raw format: Dst Src Length, IPX. They use 802.2 to mean an ordinary 802.3 frame: 802.3 followed by 802.2. In other words, Dest Src Length, DSAP SSAP Control. Priscilla At 02:31 PM 11/12/01, CCIE TB wrote: >Priscilla, > >Related to your comment below:

RE: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925] Where did you get that description of Ethernet frame types? It's riddled with mistakes, I'm afraid. At 09:21 AM 11/12/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ok - four different encapsulation types are commonly found on an >&

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread CCIE TB
Priscilla, Related to your comment below: " This is a standard 802.3/802.2 frame. Dest Src Length, 802.2 (LLC). The 802.2 header has the DSAP, SSAP, and Control fields. This frame format is confusing if you are used to Novell terminology because Novell calls it 802.2. But it's also

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
quot;) - uses a payload length field. >Since the ether MTU is 1518 with 18 octets of overhead, this field is >never more than 1500. There's no length field in an Ethernet II frame. It Dest Src Type. That's it. >* 802.3 Raw - This type is said to be raw because service acc

Re: 802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ence (CRC) The encapsulation types differ as follows * Ethernet II (Cisco keyword "arpa") - uses a payload length field. Since the ether MTU is 1518 with 18 octets of overhead, this field is never more than 1500. * 802.3 Raw - This type is said to be raw because service access points are n

802.2 Frames [7:25925]

2001-11-12 Thread CCIE TB
Microsoft devices defaults to 802.2 frame format when using NWLink, I'm having a problem categorizing this type. Ethernet II --> uses Type instead of Length 802.3 > uses Length and SSAP/DSAP SNAP > uses Length with fixed SSAP/DSAP and adds SNAP header.

RE: 802.2

2000-05-10 Thread Willy Schoots
Have a look at this link: http://www.optimized.com/COMPENDI/L1-LLC.htm It gives detailed info about the LLC layer (=802.2) and the different frame formats, their functions etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oscar Rau Sent: Wednesday

RE: 802.2

2000-05-10 Thread Daniel Cotts
http://www.rware.demon.co.uk/ethernet.htm Scroll down the page. You will find 802.2. -Original Message- From: Oscar Rau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:43 AM To: Cisco GroupStudy Subject: 802.2 I know that 802.5 is Token Ring. What is 802.2? Is it ethernet

Re: 802.2

2000-05-10 Thread Tim Ross
The short answer (below) found at: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/demos/ccna-demo/glossary/i.ht m There are much more detailed answers, depending on what you are trying to do, which might be more appropriate. Basically the 802.2 is what makes multi-protocol available on one

Re: 802.2

2000-05-10 Thread Chris Best
Mr. Rau, 802.2 is neither Ethernet or Token Ring. It is simply the header that allows IP, IPX, etc. to talk to Ethernet or Token Ring. I found a fairly decent page that explains this: http://www.mouse.demon.nl/ckp/lanwan/ieee8022.htm Hope this helps. At 11:42 AM 05/10/2000 -0400

802.2

2000-05-10 Thread Oscar Rau
I know that 802.5 is Token Ring. What is 802.2? Is it ethernet? -- Oscar Rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and