Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Fred Ingham
reflectors. The requirement for the BGP/OSPF identifier is stated in RFC 1364: Varadhan[Page 4] RFC 1364 BGP OSPF InteractionSeptember 1992 3. BGP Identifier and OSPF router ID The BGP identifier

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread John Neiberger
Fred, Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for, although it appears that the first part of your response was chopped off for some reason. John Fred Ingham 12/28/01 12:19:59 PM reflectors. The requirement for the BGP/OSPF identifier is stated in RFC 1364: Varadhan

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Fred, this is fascinating reading ( ok, so I need a life :- ) but I am failing to understand the why behind the requirement. Recognizing that there were real problems in real networks that those who wrote the RFC were trying to solve, is there something I am missing in the description? In the

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
BGP-OSPF interaction has specifically been made Historic by the IETF (i.e., obsolete). It's not in the current BGP documents, and there is an administrative document that obsoletes 1364. Sounds like Cisco meets the old RFC 1364, but new implementations won't have the restriction.

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Peter van Oene
Good find! Some additional info. Per rfc 3166, RFC 1403, which obsoletes 1364, has been moved to historic status since no one ever implemented it. This is likely because redistributing BGP into your IGP really isn't a great idea unless you'd like to see how fast you can dump your entire

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Peter van Oene
Hmm.. Reading more, I think I made a mistake (there's a new one) Anyway, Routers 1, 2, and 3 are BGP peers, however they connect via an IGP domain that doesn't participate in BGP. RT3 will learn of prefix X 4 times. Once from each ASBR via BGP with full attributes intact. Once from each ASBR

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Fred Ingham
John et al: The first part of my message said that this is a particular problem with route reflectors. Don't know what I'm doing but the first line of my messages gets chopped frequently. Just didn't want people to think the BGP/OSPF requirement was arbitrary, though it seems to be based on an

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-27 Thread EA Louie
the first thing that comes to mind is that OSPF is the only other routing protocol where RID is an inherant part of the structure and the process. as to why this becomes an issue, since RIDs can change based upon reconfigurations and reloads and process clearing, I can see the code getting

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-27 Thread EA Louie
- Original Message - From: Peter van Oene To: Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:47 PM Subject: Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126] To my knowledge, this is purely a cisco implementation issue and you'd need to look at the code or ask the coders what their particular intention

OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-26 Thread John Neiberger
We discovered something on the CCIE list recently and I'm wondering if anyone might be able to explain the reasoning behing this behavior. BGP synchronization rules require that if an iBGP peer is to advertise a route learned via iBGP, it must have that prefix *and* the next hop for that

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-26 Thread Chuck Larrieu
the first thing that comes to mind is that OSPF is the only other routing protocol where RID is an inherant part of the structure and the process. as to why this becomes an issue, since RIDs can change based upon reconfigurations and reloads and process clearing, I can see the code getting

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-26 Thread Peter van Oene
To my knowledge, this is purely a cisco implementation issue and you'd need to look at the code or ask the coders what their particular intention was. OSPF didn't play much of a role in transit networks during the time when synchronization was a relevant option as far as I know so I doubt