PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Imran Obaidullah M
Hi friends, I have few basic questions, 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2 ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN). 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance

PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Imran Obaidullah M
Hi friends, I have few basic questions, 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2 ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN). 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfo

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer
This is what you want: http://www.roble.com/docs/fw1_or_pix.html Regards, David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Imran Obaidullah M Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:23 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subje

Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark
Not a bad article in here but just a little more. I have both the Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525. I bought the 525's because I was tiered of dealing with Checkpoint. CKP is terrible at customer support and licensing, and I am not saying this from just my experience. I was in the classes recent

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX vs CheckPoint Not a bad article in here but just a little more. I have both the Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525. I bought the 525's because I was tiered of dealing with Checkpoint

Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark Holloway
Where I work we have two PIX Firewalls (520), one strictly for Internet usage (e-commerce), the other for corporate Internet access + Extranets. When I went to PIX training, everyone there had already worked with Checkpoint Firewalls, and so I heard some good feedback in regards to comparisons. M

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer
]]On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:34 AM To: 'Mark'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint I've been watching this thread and I have kept quiet. The article listed below is obviously biased. CheckPoint has its issues but none of them are performan

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: 'Mark'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint I've been watching this thread and I have kept quiet. The article listed below is obviously biased. CheckPoint has its issues but none of them are performance relate

Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark
but I won't bore anyone. > If someone would like more details or a realistic view on CheckPoint > capabilities you can contact me offline. > > -Original Message- > From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subje

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
x27;t get me wrong, I love Cisco but this product just fit our needs. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX vs CheckPoint In some aspects I do agree but we have checkpoint on sun 250'

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Imran Obaidullah M
Hi David, Thanks for the link. The URL answers my 2nd question. Can you give me some details on the first qstn. regards imran -Original Message- From: David Wolsefer To: Imran Obaidullah M Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/12/01 11:04 PM Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint This is what you

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-14 Thread Imran Obaidullah M
Hi, Thanks for the link. It answers my 2nd question. Can you give some details on the 1st. Regards imran -Original Message- From: David Wolsefer To: Imran Obaidullah M Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/12/01 11:04 PM Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint This is what you want: http

RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-14 Thread Aamir Lakhani
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Imran Obaidullah M Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 9:24 PM To: 'David Wolsefer '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint Hi, Thanks for the li

PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-01 Thread Jeffrey Reed
Has anyone performed or seen an in depth study of PIX vs Checkpoint? I have a customer who is looking at both. Ive read various magazine articles, but nothing from real people such as this group! :) Thanks!! Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. Cell 717-805-5536 Office 717-737-8586 FAX 717

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread x
patch the OS and the firewall software. --- Jeffrey Reed wrote: > Has anyone performed or seen an in depth study of > PIX vs Checkpoint? I have > a customer who is looking at both. Ive read various > magazine articles, but > nothing from real people such as this group! :) >

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread Nurudeen Aderinto
y issues > since you have to patch the OS and the firewall > software. > > > --- Jeffrey Reed wrote: > > Has anyone performed or seen an in depth study of > > PIX vs Checkpoint? I have > > a customer who is looking at both. Ive read various > > magazine article

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread nrf
manage the ruleset, but more setup time > > and more costly. I would also say this solution is > > slightly slower and more prone to security issues > > since you have to patch the OS and the firewall > > software. > > > > > > --- Jeffrey Reed wrote: > &

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread colin newman
for ruleset management > > > - more expensive > > > - required to know Unix or NT ( for the love of God > > > don't use NT. Its security is very poor out of the > > > box and requires a great deal of configuration to > > > become mildly secure ) >

RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread Rik Guyler
With that said, I'm really a PIX person so don't get the wrong impression. ;-) Rik -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] On the other hand, there's a d

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread nrf
; > > > - nice GUI for ruleset management > > > > - more expensive > > > > - required to know Unix or NT ( for the love of God > > > > don't use NT. Its security is very poor out of the > > > > box and requires a great deal of config

RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread Kent Hundley
f Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] On the other hand, there's a distinct third option, which is to run Checkpoint on a dedicated hardware appliance, for example the Nokia Ipso line of gear. This removes one of the Checkpoint

RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-02 Thread Jeffrey Reed
t: Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] I knew somebody was going to come back with that. All-right fine, it is indeed true that Ipso is a hacked version of Unix. But then again, so is Cisco IOS and Juniper JunOS, and you could say that it helps to have knowledge of Unix to run either of those (espec

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-07 Thread Timo Graser
2002 9:21 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] > >I knew somebody was going to come back with that. All-right fine, it is >indeed true that Ipso is a hacked version of Unix. But then again, so is >Cisco IOS and Juniper JunOS, and you could say t

Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-07 Thread Reggie Dwight
ot;Jeffrey Reed"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Has anyone performed or seen an in depth study of PIX vs Checkpoint? I have > a customer who is looking at both. Ive read various magazine articles, but > nothing from real people such as th

RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Odette II
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Timo Graser Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] The Pix has also a browser interface. The only disadvantage in the past was, that you could not configure a vpn. With the new pdm you will be able to do this too

RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136]

2002-04-08 Thread Tim O'Brien
, 2002 2:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX VS CheckPoint [7:40136] Timo- Which version of the PDM are you referring to that has the VPN config capability?? I have 1.1.2 now, and I have not found that functionality... Am I just overlooking something!?!?! TIA for your response. -Mark Odette

Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-02 Thread Hatim badr
Hi , I would like to know the pluses and minuses of each product . Currently We are using checkpoint and I want to convince my management to switch to cisco PIX firewall . Thanks Hatim Get free email and a permanent

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
Cisco's CCO has info: http://cisco.com/go/pix/ Cisco always has links to studies that show them on top: http://sartryck.idg.se/art/firewall7_eng.html -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Hatim badr"" w

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It depends on your security policy , design and needs , generally what we advice our customers is checkpoint + pix together Hatim badr a icrit : > Hi , > > I would like to know the pluses and minuses of each product . Currently We > are using checkpoint and I want to convince my management to

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-03 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Asked sincerely, what advantages do you see in provisions PIX plus checkpoint? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cisco PIX vs

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-03 Thread Eugene Nine
D]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Asked sincerely, what advantages do you see in provisions PIX plus > checkpoint? > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-03 Thread Jason Roysdon
OTECTED]] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] > > It depends on your security policy , design and needs , generally what we > advice our > customers is chec

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-03 Thread Jason Roysdon
ncerely, what advantages do you see in provisions PIX plus > > checkpoint? > > > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:47 PM &g

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Jim Brown
Security holes in lower layers? Where did you come up with that, your Cisco rep? -Original Message- From: Eugene Nine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] PIX goes up to layer 4

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Brian
In a serious enterprise of scale, I would indeed consider using both a pix and a server based firewall. Bri - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] > Security h

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Allen May
PIX can do url filtering with Websense. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/sqso/csap/wbsn_rg.htm Allen May - Original Message - From: "Jason Roysdon" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] > You ca

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Maness, Drew
---Original Message- From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] Security holes in lower layers? Where did you come up with that, your Cisco rep? -Original Message- From: Eug

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Carroll Kong
At 10:44 AM 5/4/01 -0400, Jim Brown wrote: >Security holes in lower layers? Where did you come up with that, your Cisco >rep? > >-Original Message- >From: Eugene Nine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:01 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >S

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Allen May
I haven't had time to work with it, since I'm preparing for this little know > lab called CCIE or something like that. What's an IGP? (oh my brain is > starting to hurt...) > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, M

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Eugene Nine
public/cc/so/neso/sqso/csap/wbsn_rg.htm > > Allen May > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Roysdon" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] > > > > You can run traffic through a Proxy box

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread simonis
"Maness, Drew" wrote: > > > But today firewalls protect the IP stack. While they are running, yes. You can cause the software to crash, often leaving the machine, and the network, exposed. This is one of the big problems with a software firewall. >A

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Jim Brown
age- From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] I installed the GUI for the PIX but haven't used it yet. Letting something else build my config just seems weird ;) Almost l

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Dave Chappell
This might be of interest: http://www.roble.com/docs/fw1_or_pix.html Dave -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] In a serious enterprise of scale, I

RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu
enterprises. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Chappell Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] This might be of interest: http://www.roble.com/

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-05 Thread Jason Roysdon
Huh? How would the PIX fixups possibly lead to security holes? They're there to protect the end device and only allow in the RFC commands (which can actually be a pain, like with SMTP mailguard being too strict for SMTP authentication on Exchange). I don't see how this can be a security hole, b

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-05 Thread Carroll Kong
At 11:37 PM 5/5/01 -0400, Jason Roysdon wrote: >Huh? How would the PIX fixups possibly lead to security holes? They're >there to protect the end device and only allow in the RFC commands (which >can actually be a pain, like with SMTP mailguard being too strict for SMTP >authentication on Exchang

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-05 Thread Jason Roysdon
iginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave > Chappell > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878] > > This might be of interest: > > http://w

Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-05 Thread Jason Roysdon
True, true. Good point. Of course, you can always disable all the fixups ;-)' -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Carroll Kong"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > At 11: