Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
Proper network design? I have a few questions for the group that maybe someone can answer. From my studies when I got CCNA certified, I understood that different networks were ALWAYS separated by a router. At my company we have this equipment that was purchased several months ago that acts as a d

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Woltz
Can you post the config of the router? Does the Ethernet interface have sub-interfaces? One for each subnet? The answer is probably in the configuration of the interface on the router. What IP and Subnet mask does it have? Could be that the subnet mask of the router Ethernet is 255.255.240.0

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
No subinterfaces are used. Here's the Cisco 2514 config: Router#show startup-config Using 940 out of 32762 bytes ! version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ip subnet-zero ! interface Ethernet0 description outside

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Woltz
192.168.0.100 is what is doing the real routing then for 192.168.2.0/24. If you follow the path, from a 192.168.0.20 machine to 192.168.2.20 say, it goes from 192.168.0.20, to the default gateway, 192.168.0.1 which checks the route table and sends it to 192.168.0.100 (which is on the same network

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Proper network design? [7:49536] Proper network design? I have a few questions for the group that maybe someone can answer. From my studies when I got CCNA certified, I understood that different networks were ALWAY

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Evans, TJ
er network design? [7:49536] No subinterfaces are used. Here's the Cisco 2514 config: Router#show startup-config Using 940 out of 32762 bytes ! version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ip subnet-zero ! inte

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
Now I understand. I read a few articles on the Cisco site after searching for the term "router on a stick" and found a good explanation. Thanks for your help. Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49558&t=49536 --

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
ect: RE: Proper network design? [7:49536] > Now I understand. I read a few articles on the Cisco site after searching > for the term "router on a stick" and found a good explanation. Thanks for > your help. > > Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstu

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
Yes, I am using a 2514. It does have 2 10BaseT interfaces (through AUI adapters). I am not using subinterfaces. Both ports are used - one port goes to the Internet (for hosts that require Internet access) and the other connects directly to the 24 port hub which resides within the internal LAN. Thi

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Robert Cluett
I assume you are using primary and secondary IP address on this one ethernet interface (which is creating the "router on a stick" effect)? Rob Frank H wrote: > > Yes, I am using a 2514. It does have 2 10BaseT interfaces > (through AUI adapters). I am not using subinterfaces. Both > ports are us

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
No, just one IP address on each interface. Check my earlier post for the full configuration. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49578&t=49536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Frank H
The "router on a stick" effect comes from this: ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.100 All traffic destined to any network not on 192.168.0.0 goes to the gateway (192.168.0.1) on interface ethernet 1. The router then re-routes 192.168.2.0 traffic back on the 192.168.0.0 network to 192.

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread sam sneed
This is not the classcial router on a stick model. That model is for routing between VLANs on a router with 1 interface using trunking. All this router is doing is taking packets from its eth1 interface, comparing them to its routing table and forwarding out the same eth1 interface for the gateway

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Larry Letterman
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proper network design? [7:49536] No, just one IP address on each interface. Check my earlier post for the full configuration. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Robert Cluett
I understand this configuration, but question how the 192.168.2.2 machine knows how to get back to the 192.168.0.20. I don't question that it will work, but if it is not a router interface with 2 addresses from each segment defined, then what default gateway does the 192.168.2.2 machine use? If

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
ing a host configured as 10.10.0.100/24. I believe that something similar is going on here. Some debugs and configs would be great cause you learn something new everyday. - Original Message - From: "Frank H" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Proper network design?

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Robert Cluett
I re-read your initial question... I would assume that 192.168.0.100 is also acting as a router...if this is true, then this would work... Is the cellular device also acting as a router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49586&t=49536

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Robert Cluett
192.168.0.20192.168.0.1 (Router) (Host) | Static forwarding to 0.100 | | | | 192.168.0.100 (Acting as Router)

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Ben W
The router doesn't know there are 2 segments on the Ethernet. The static route is routing packets destined for the 192.168.2.0/24 to 192.168.0.100. That device is also doing routing. Linux box I think. My question is how does 192.168.0.100 know of both subnets. Does it have 2 interfaces? I'm

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Robert Cluett
Yes, Ben...I think that is what he is saying...I made a diagram in a past post. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49589&t=49536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html R

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Frank H wrote: > > Proper network design? > > I have a few questions for the group that maybe someone can > answer. From my studies when I got CCNA certified, I understood > that different networks were ALWAYS separated by a router. At > my company we have this equipment that was purchased sever

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Frank H wrote: > > Yes, I am using a 2514. It does have 2 10BaseT interfaces > (through AUI adapters). I am not using subinterfaces. Both > ports are used - one port goes to the Internet (for hosts that > require Internet access) and the other connects directly to the > 24 port hub which resides

Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
sam sneed wrote: > > This is not the classcial router on a stick model. That model > is for routing > between VLANs on a router with 1 interface using trunking. All > this router > is doing is taking packets from its eth1 interface, comparing > them to its > routing table and forwarding out the s

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Symon Thurlow
From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 July 2002 22:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proper network design? [7:49536] This is not the classcial router on a stick model. That model is for routing between VLANs on a router with 1 interface using trunking. All this router is doi

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Frank H
Thanks for your explanation - I can understand my setup very clearly now. I originally asked this question because I have not been exposed to that situation before (I'm at the CCNA level). You are correct in saying that the cellular box does routing for the 192.168.2.0 network. I was also incorrec

RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I'm curious about why the Linux box couldn't be configured to do the same job as the Cisco router also. Let us know if your Linux colleagues tell you. Wouldn't that be great if they could put the Linux box back and give you the router for your home lab? ;-) Thanks for a great discussion. Priscil