Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Brian Green
You might want to be careful whose ego is damaged. Tell him to go to Yipes and he can meet his needs. They have a pure IP over fiber network with a native ethernet interface to the office. There is no need for telephony. Bandwidth is scalable from 1 Mbps to 1 Gbps bandwidth in 1 Mbps increment

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Ben Hockenhull
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Keith Townsend wrote: > I have a customer who wants to upgrade his 128K ISDN point to point > connections to at lease a 10mbps connection. He is thinking along the lines > of LAN technologies. He idea connection is a 1gb connection. How would go > about explaining to this g

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>I have a customer who wants to upgrade his 128K ISDN point to point >connections to at lease a 10mbps connection. He is thinking along the lines >of LAN technologies. He idea connection is a 1gb connection. How would go >about explaining to this guy that he is out of his mind without damaging

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Andrew Cook
its component agencies - they sure love bandwidth! Andrew Cook - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How would you Explain it. > >I have a customer who wa

RE: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Plantier, William (Spencer)
Depending on what area you are at Adelphia will sell them a 10mg connection. -Original Message- From: Ben Hockenhull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:20 PM To: Keith Townsend Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How would you Explain it. On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Keith

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Moe Tavakoli
Another to look into is Telseon (we just used them and they are great.) I would approach him him possible solution: T1 T3 OC-3 And solutions from the fiber types (as stated before) Then let him decide what he can afford. Make sure to put ht eassociated hardware costs on paper for him too. For

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Michael Marshalek
check out terabeamtheir great. mike On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Moe Tavakoli wrote: > Another to look into is Telseon (we just used them and > they are great.) > > I would approach him him possible solution: > T1 > T3 > OC-3 > And solutions from the fiber types (as stated before) > > Then let him

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Keith Townsend
To: Keith Townsend > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How would you Explain it. > > > On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Keith Townsend wrote: > > > I have a customer who wants to upgrade his 128K ISDN point to point > > connections to at lease a 10mbps connection. He is think

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
We upgraded our T1 WAN link that cost $1500 per month to a single-mode fiber-optic 10-Mbps Ethernet MAN link that costs $700 per month. We just have a switch at our site, no router even. Seriously. Our local municipality has a Gigabit Ethernet single-mode fiber-optic ring running around town,

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-02 Thread Sam
ending on what area you are at Adelphia will sell them a 10mg > connection. > > -Original Message----- > > From: Ben Hockenhull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:20 PM > > To: Keith Townsend > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-03 Thread Kenneth
I'm curious, if you're connected to a switch, then you don't have control over your public IP Addresses then such as DNS,... or is this mostly used for office to office links as opposed to a gateway to the internet? I guess the reason i'm wondering is we currently have an entire class C and we ho

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-03 Thread J Roysdon
Most likely the ISP has a layer 3 switch that has a single port (the port out to them) configured for their subnet, and the route processor handles their routing. Essentially they're just bridging to their ISP. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROT

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-03 Thread Craig Columbus
I don't think it's fair to say that they don't have control of DNS or public IP space. I've got a customer now leasing bandwidth in a very similar setup...a 10Mb fiber connection to a local switch. These guys are assigned then assigned a /26 to use as they see fit. Their DNS is maintained l

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
We have public IP addresses, our own DNS servers, Web servers, etc. The only sort of strange thing is that the layer-two LAN crosses the MAN, if that makes any sense. At our site we just have a two-port switch. A single-mode fiber link connects our switch to a router port at the provider's sit

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-03 Thread Jack
PacBell is also offering a "GigaMan" service in selected citiies Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >We have public IP addresses, our own DNS servers, Web servers, etc. The >only sort of strange thing is that the layer-two LAN crosses the MAN, if >that makes any sense. A

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-04 Thread SREY
Kenneth, Optical providers can be used as either an ISP or to create a MAN or WAN. We use Yipes as an ISP, but It's not an issue. Anybody can connect a router, firewall, or even another switch (just use a non-routed VLAN to seperate it from your internal network) to the ethernet port on the provi

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-04 Thread Tony van Ree
Hi All, We supply quite a lot on 'LAN' connect services. These have a Gig coming back to a core with a number of 100Meg ports some to various clients 'a shared connection' others going to a site operated by the one orgaisation. These come bace into a core and do so in the couple of major co

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Cool name: GigaMan. &;-) Priscilla At 09:18 PM 3/3/01, Jack wrote: >PacBell is also offering a "GigaMan" service in selected citiies >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >We have public IP addresses, our own DNS servers, Web servers, etc. The > >only sort of strange

Re: How would you Explain it.

2001-03-04 Thread Kenneth
That's what sucks about Cleveland. We get the new technologies the last... Should have stayed in Chicago! lol. "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 97snc1$8o9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:97snc1$8o9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > PacBell is also offering a "GigaMan" service in selected citiies > Prisci