Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-08 Thread Luke
Mike, Thanks for the response. I have tried both inside and outside the same subnet (intra vs inter VLAN) on the one switch. Did not see any difference that is why I assume I am not stressing the equipment sufficiently to see the difference. Can you recommend a scenerio that would

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Stephen Skinner
Jason, the real answer to your questions is this. first why do we use layer 3 devices.. well MAINLY for intervlan routing,,,we are all agreed...yes then , we migh have these two different setup`s. a 6500 with an internal MSFC on a sup 2G... and a 6500 with an external router

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Michael L. Williams
router Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Sergei Gearasimtchouk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Chuck Larrieu
a bridge ( so to speak ) Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] I think on any of those units

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Luke
I am testing MLS on a cat5500 and have not been able to demonstrate any throughput improvement using FTP as a test application. The cat5500 has SupIII (4.5.12), RSM (12.0.7T) with NFFCII and 3 24port 10/100 ethernet line cards. I have 7 Vlans configured and the mls settings on both the RSM and

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Padjen
How 'bout $.03? If you look at the newest Cisco announcements, its clear that the GSR and 6500 technology will replace the legacy 75xx and other high-end router platforms. These systems, depending on firmware, will use hardware based CEF, which will negate the MLS flow establishment process. In

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Michael L. Williams
Robert/Priscilla, That's a very good point about the CEF.. I knew that CEF was the ultimate as far as switching, etc. I'd like to learn much more about it's details Mike W. Robert Padjen wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How 'bout $.03? If you look

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Graham, Darel R.
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] I just wanted to get my $0.02 in, but the message had gotten so long I think the filters dropped my response. I apologize if this is a duplicate. Priscilla At 12:39 AM 6/7/01, Michael L. Williams wrote: Chuck.. I talked to a good friend

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] I just wanted to get

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ichael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] For the record: Layer 3 switch = Multilayer switch (I say this because I like to use the term Multilayer switch rather than Layer 3 switch... dunno why...

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Munoz, Michael
This is actually covered in under the switching portion of the CCNP.. Here is a link from Cisco for you to reference: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/lnso/cpso/l3c85_wp.htm Thanks, Mike Munoz -Original Message- From: Denton, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Bob Salazar
Layer 3 switch is a switch that by nature is a layer 2 device that has layer 3 (routing) capabilities such as cat6k w/MSM or MSFC, cat5k with RSM, and cat4k witk layer 3 module. Router is a layer 3 device which by nature is a layer 3.

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Sam
One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer3 switch and a router? Jason Message Posted at:

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Bradley J. Wilson
] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Bryan In Richmond
Well, Someone may have a product based answer for you but literally a router is a layer 3 switch. Just think of all of the functionality that a switch offers you and add on the route switch module to sweeten the pot. A router either bridges or has separate subnets on each of its

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Which means...? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sam Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
:RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] This is actually covered in under the switching portion of the CCNP.. Here is a link from Cisco for you to reference: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/lnso/cpso/l3c85_wp.htm Thanks, Mike Munoz -Original Message- From: Denton, Jason

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Munoz, Michael
at least provide a link for them to read up on and to validate the answer. Thanks, Mike Munoz -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:08 PM To: Munoz, Michael; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] I'm

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Jennifer Cribbs
Price Jenn -Original Message- From: Denton, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer3 switch and a router? Jason Have a

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Jennifer Cribbs
Switches also have less latency than routers. Jenn -Original Message- From: Denton, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Sam
they're tied up, ask them what wire-speed is supposed to mean. - Original Message - From: Sam To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jaso

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Brian
and ask *them* what the difference is. Two - while they're tied up, ask them what wire-speed is supposed to mean. - Original Message - From: Sam To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Michael L. Williams
A layer 3 switch, as a previous poster said, is a switch, that has a route processor (or that can connect to an external router), to perform Layer 3 functions at wire speed. But it also has ASICs that performs other functions that a normal Layer 2 switch doesn't have (as you'll see below). At

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread William E. Gragido
: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Well, Someone may have a product based answer for you but literally a router is a layer 3 switch. Just think of all of the functionality that a switch offers you and add on the route switch module

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Jennifer Cribbs
That is a great answer!! That is above and beyond the call of duty and I am printing this and keeping it for future ref. Seriously. That is exactly why I like this group. Thanks, Jennifer Cribbs 6/6/2001 5:09:37 PM, Michael L. Williams wrote: A layer 3 switch, as a previous poster said, is

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Michael L. Williams
For the record: Layer 3 switch = Multilayer switch (I say this because I like to use the term Multilayer switch rather than Layer 3 switch... dunno why... I guess because in the switch/routers, you actually use and configure Multilayer switching) In reply to some of the other posts on this

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Sergei
PM Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer3 switch and

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Michael L. Williams
M Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer3 switch an

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] For the record: Layer 3 switch = Multilayer switch (I say this because I like to use the term Multilayer switch rather than Layer 3 switch... dunno why... I guess

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Tom Lisa
, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:26 PM To: 'Chuck Larrieu'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Seriously? I did not mean to come across rudely.. I just took the switching recently which is why I mentioned the test

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Sam
True, routers can handle a 100,000 packets per second. According to Cisco Layer 3 switches handle millions of packets per second. Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone tell me what the REAL difference is between a layer3 switch and a router?

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Bill Pearch
Speed. Actually, that's the answer a 3Com engineer gave me when I asked him that very question. TTFN, Bill in Anchorage -Original Message- From: Denton, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Layer3 switch vs Router

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Sergei Gearasimtchouk
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] One differance is that a layer 3 switch does wire-speed switching Denton, Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Michael L. Williams
Sergei Gearasimtchouk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am sorry, should have said some thing meaningful. :( hypothetically speaking, if the ACLs are in place, wire speed is gone. The concept route one switch many is no longer holds its value. That's what I

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Michael L. Williams
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] For the record: Layer 3 switch = Multilayer switch (I say this because I like to use the term Multilayer switch rather than Layer

RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu
PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] Sergei Gearasimtchouk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am sorry, should have said some thing meaningful. :( hypothetically speaking, if the ACLs are in place, wire speed is gone. The concept r

Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]

2001-06-06 Thread Chris Kolp
: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:01 AM Subject: RE: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406] So layer three switches are faster, 'eh? By orders of magnitude, 'eh? This calls for a bit of research on CCO. Hhhmmm Catalyst 8500 = 24 million PPS http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc