RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-27 Thread Chuck Larrieu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Couple additions (corrections). I just discovered that RIP, IGRP and EIGRP actually use a TTL of 2! (I had said that all routing protocol packets use a TTL of 1. OSPF and BGP do.) I stick to my main point

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-26 Thread MADMAN
Ya that may be been since when has ANSI been the authoritative source for correct spelling, I trust Merriam-Webster more... http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary fibre is a variant of fiber Dave Dr Rita Puzmanova wrote: Keeping myself - hopefully - unbiased in this spelling discussion

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
You may trust Merriam-Webster, but if you want to find things in standards documents, I suggest you follow their rules. Ya that may be been since when has ANSI been the authoritative source for correct spelling, I trust Merriam-Webster more... http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary fibre is

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-26 Thread Stephen Skinner
HorrayTally-ho.Chin-chin and all that ..us brits are first at something Marvelous... From: MADMAN Reply-To: MADMAN To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:17:16 -0400 Ya that may be been since when has ANSI

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-26 Thread MADMAN
Yes of coarse but I was refering to spelling of fiber/fibre etc. not the standards describing there use and it was light hearted, I'm not going to worry about it much... Dave Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: You may trust Merriam-Webster, but if you want to find things in standards documents,

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Thomas Crowe
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RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work on? sb said that they are on application, others on network what

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work on? sb said that they are on application, others on network what is the right answer?? They are layer management protocols at the network layer. This is not covered in the basic OSI Reference Model, but in the Management

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
, September 24, 2001 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
, but interm of BGP itself, perhaps it's an application residing most certainly not in network layer. donny From: Priscilla Oppenheimer Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:27:16 -0400

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread MADMAN
24, 2001 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Morenz
Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Berkowitz. Although I hope you won't be upset if I mention that you're not really presenting a counter-point to the curriculum. I continue to maintain that the CNAP curriculum (despite it's many problems) is quite good when it comes to the model. It very

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
__ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Berkowitz. Although I hope you won't be upset if I mention that you're not really presenting a counter-point to the curriculum. A little confused...I didn't think I was responding to any specific curriculum. I was responding to a point that someone made

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Morenz
Ah, I apologize. When you said: Again people -- PLEASE do not assume the simple 7 layer model that Cisco tends to present was the end of all protocol stack development. It wasn't. I thought you were referring to the CNAP (cisco networking academy program) curriculum. If you ever get a chance

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread MADMAN
, September 24, 2001 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Dr Rita Puzmanova
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work on? sb

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:27:16 -0400 Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Couple additions (corrections). I just discovered that RIP, IGRP and EIGRP actually use a TTL of 2! (I had said that all routing protocol packets use a TTL of 1. OSPF and BGP do.) I stick to my main point that routing protocol packets go to directly-connected routers and could use just a

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Network layer. Routing is a fundamental component of the network layer. At 10:14 PM 9/24/01, lhill peng wrote: which layer do the routing protocol such as ospf rip bgp eigrp work on? sb said that they are on application, others on network what is the right answer??

RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-24 Thread Tribavan Raina
I dont agree cos BGP uses TCP for sending route updates and TCP is at transport layer. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 7:27 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953

Re: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953]

2001-09-24 Thread Nigel Taylor
.. - Original Message - From: Tribavan Raina To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: RE: which layer do the ospf bgp rip work on [7:20953] I dont agree cos BGP uses TCP for sending route updates and TCP is at transport layer. -Original Message- From: Priscilla