> >> In the ATM world, PNNI certainly is more evolved than standard
OSPF,
> >> but it still would need extension for current concepts of traffic
> >> engineering. Why do the work twice, once for IP and once for ATM?
> >> Optical routing is another concern; I've been bothered that layer 1
> >>
with LANE.
One big advantage of Bind is QoS.
Regards,
Alaerte
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> > >At the risk of starting a religious war, I've never understood why MPLS
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>> >so IP-centric. It's not called IPLS, it's called MPLS. With only a few
>> >exceptions, most MPLS initiatives I see presume that devices are running
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>> >IP stack to handle control-plane mechanisms.
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> >At the risk of starting a religious war, I've never understood why MPLS
is
> >so IP-centric. It's not called IPLS, it's called MPLS. With only a few
> >exceptions, most MPLS initiatives I see presume that devices are running
an
> >IP stack to handle control-plane mechanisms.
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> Look at the e
> > And in that space, MPLS is rapidly catching up as an alternative to
>> ATM and raw SONET. It's no accident it's called "ATM without cells".
>> MPLS, and especially MPLS VPNs, do have more of a telco learning
>> curve than ATM.
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>At the risk of starting a religious war, I've never underst
> And in that space, MPLS is rapidly catching up as an alternative to
> ATM and raw SONET. It's no accident it's called "ATM without cells".
> MPLS, and especially MPLS VPNs, do have more of a telco learning
> curve than ATM.
At the risk of starting a religious war, I've never understood why MPL
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>> Let me just add that while I agree that things like LANE are dying, ATM
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>> WAN is an extraordinarily important service in the sense that WAN ATM, as
>> opposed to
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> Let me just add that while I agree that things like LANE are dying, ATM
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> WAN is an extraordinarily important service in the sense that WAN ATM, as
> opposed to IP, actually generates profits (and significant profits at
Let me just add that while I agree that things like LANE are dying, ATM over
WAN is an extraordinarily important service in the sense that WAN ATM, as
opposed to IP, actually generates profits (and significant profits at that)
for the provider. Practically every provider right now is losing mone
I do agree with this. ATM is a vanishing technology over LANs afer the
GigEthernet came to the world. The only reason for ATM to survive would
be using ATM over WAN.
Save your time and effort and don't get into LANE headache.
>From: "MADMAN" > >Hopefully none!!! > > ATM is mostly dead in the LAN
LANE is still used by a couple of customers and I have in the past
simply binded PVCs to VLANs and routed accross. I did this when the
customer had purchased LANE cards, big bandwidth, but didn't actually
need LANE.
Dave
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> Thanks, to the several that pointed out that ATM
earn
Hope helps,
Alaerte
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ut I do not know if it is deployed out there.
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Hopefully none!!!
ATM is mostly dead in the LAN with the advent of 100/1000M ethernet
and 10G starting to trickle out.
Thanks, to the several that pointed out that ATM is dead in such an
environment. I know that. What I mean is in the case where it is already in
place, how do they do it? Assuming for whatever I reason I do not want to or
cannot get rid of the ATM as the campus link, how is such a thing
configured?
Hopefully none!!!
ATM is mostly dead in the LAN with the advent of 100/1000M ethernet
and 10G starting to trickle out.
I know someone will point out and exception but it will be the
exception not the rule.
Just say no!! to LANE
Dave
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> I have been reading up on ho
Actually, the answer is probably neither. The real answer is often times to
source/sink the circuits at the edges and route between the campus
buildings.
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> I have been reading up on how to configure ATM on Cisco equip
I have been reading up on how to configure ATM on Cisco equipment. In
particular I have been looking at examples of how ATM is used in a campus
network, such as to connect two buildings. The Cisco documents for the 8510
MSR for example discuss configuration using LANE clients, MPOA, Classical
IP,
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