Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-22 Thread s vermill
Chuck wrote: BTW, it occurs to me that we have had this discussion before. There being nothing in the routing table indicating IGRP or EIGRP hop counts, how does (E)IGRP know the diameter of the network of which it is a member? And why would it care? ;-) Maybe one of these days I'll

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 12:51 AM 2/22/02, Chuck wrote: it gets complicated, routing protocols versus ip packets. It's not complicated. Is this Chuck Larrieu? You know that it's not complicated. Of course IP routing protocol packets are carried in an IP packet. No biggie. They can set the IP TTL in the IP header

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 12:56 AM 2/22/02, Chuck wrote: BTW, it occurs to me that we have had this discussion before. Yes, unfortunately. ;-) There being nothing in the routing table indicating IGRP or EIGRP hop counts, You can't see the hop count with show ip route perhaps, but the router certainly saves the

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It should say show ip eigrp topology network. Network is the argument to the command. I had it encapsulated in less than and greater than symbols so it got munged by the mail server. Argh. There's probably other ways to see the hop count too. Bottom line: the router saves it. You just

RE: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread s vermill
Actually there are hop count limits that need to be adhered to when you implement EIGRP for Appletalk and IPX. You can search on CCO and read all about it. Steven A. Ridder wrote: Anyone know why there is a hop-count in EIGRP? It has a 1 byte value, but it doesn't limit the number of hops

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Steven A. Ridder
thanks! -- RFC 1149 Compliant. s vermill wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually there are hop count limits that need to be adhered to when you implement EIGRP for Appletalk and IPX. You can search on CCO and read all about it. Steven A. Ridder wrote:

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It's possible it's just a holdover from IGRP which does limit the diameter of a network by checking the hop count. But EIGRP may limit the number of hops too, depending on which document you read. ;-) The following document says that the default max is 100 but can be increased with the metric

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread s vermill
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: It's possible it's just a holdover from IGRP which does limit the diameter of a network by checking the hop count. But EIGRP may limit the number of hops too, depending on which document you read. ;-) The following document says that the default max is 100

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread s vermill
I have seen references to EIGRP hop count limits before. As I mentioned in my first post, that seems related to Appletalk and IPX support. However, a 'sh ip prot' will indeed produce a line that stated EIGRP maximum hopcount 100. Thus far, I haven't been able to find a command to change

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread s vermill
Well, a little messing around with the command line produced this: p1r1(config-router)#metric ? holddown Enable IGRP holddown maximum-hops Advertise IGRP routes greater than as unreachable weights Modify IGRP metric coefficients However, setting the max-hops

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Chuck
to augment the other answers, the IP hop count is really the IP TTL value. It can never exceed 255 EIGRP defaults to 100 hops, so I would expect that the routing packet IP TTL is set at 100 at that point. Well ( checking the sniffer trace that Priscilla so thoughtfully supplied a couple of days

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 08:05 PM 2/21/02, Chuck wrote: to augment the other answers, the IP hop count is really the IP TTL value. It can never exceed 255 You're confusing two issues. Remember the router has two jobs: forwarding packets and learning the topology. Hop count has to do with the latter and affects what

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 05:45 PM 2/21/02, s vermill wrote: Well, a little messing around with the command line produced this: p1r1(config-router)#metric ? holddown Enable IGRP holddown maximum-hops Advertise IGRP routes greater than as unreachable weights Modify IGRP metric

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Chuck
it gets complicated, routing protocols versus ip packets. first of all, if I understand correctly, all ip routing protocols use ip headers. The routing protocol packet is the payload, and not an entity unto itself. I have seen traces of OSPF packets showing IP TTL of various values. Someone

Re: hop count in EIGRP? [7:36082]

2002-02-21 Thread Chuck
BTW, it occurs to me that we have had this discussion before. There being nothing in the routing table indicating IGRP or EIGRP hop counts, how does (E)IGRP know the diameter of the network of which it is a member? And why would it care? ;- Maybe one of these days I'll daisy chain the routers in