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2001-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson
--Original Message- From: Jeremy Dumoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:10 PM To: Leigh Anne Chisholm; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... Frame relay has no means for packet loss detection, so a higher layer protocol (probably TCP) would have

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2001-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson
08, 2001 8:45 PM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... PPP can be reliable. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios112/112cg_cr/4rb ook/4rppp.htm#xtocid2891421 http://www.landfield.com/rfcs/rfc1663.html Brian Dennis CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP

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2001-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson
from that particular sequence number." Is this correct? -Original Message- From: Christopher Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:22 PM To: 'Jeremy Dumoit'; Brant Stevens; Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... HDLC will not

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2001-02-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
In the discussion of error correction, I think an error on my part has been missed. I was thinking about it and I wonder if this is entirely accurate: (concerning what happens after a frame is discarded on WAN link) "The end station will respond by acking the next packet it recieves with the

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2001-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... In the discussion of error correction, I think an error on my part has been missed. I was thinking about it and I wonder if this is entirely accurate: (concerning what happens

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2001-02-09 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
no error detection or correction capabilities. In my original "not quite sure" post, I purposely asked how certain data link layer protocols detect the loss of a "packet" because of the four listed, each fits into one of the three above categories. Error detection and correction

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2001-02-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
, February 09, 2001 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... In the discussion of error correction, I think an error on my part has been missed. I was thinking about it and I wonder if this is entirely accurate: (concerning what happens after a frame is discarded on WAN link

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2001-02-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
In the discussion of error correction, I think an error on my part has been missed. I was thinking about it and I wonder if this is entirely accurate: (concerning what happens after a frame is discarded on WAN link) "The end station will respond by acking the next packet it recieves

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2001-02-08 Thread Brant Stevens
Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: not quite sure... I've tried to diagram this question

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2001-02-08 Thread Jeremy Dumoit
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: not quite sure... I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear... Host A is sending to Host D... A line

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2001-02-08 Thread Christopher Larson
HDLC will not retransmit as there is only error detection in HDLC, but no error correction. Original Message- From: Jeremy Dumoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Brant Stevens; Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure

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2001-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Believe me, I'm crying with you, not at you. Somehow, perhaps in some old education slides, the idea that routers routinely retransmit has reached the level of an urban legend. X.25 switches do transmit, but they are NOT routers. Why do I get so emphatic about this? Because as long as

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2001-02-08 Thread Jeremy Dumoit
2001 9:10 AM To: Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... The question is if Router B and Router C are routing, or if they are bridging... If they are routing, then Router B would re-transmit a packet. If bridging is happening, then Host A would retransmit.

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2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: not quite sure... I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear... Host A is sending to Host D... A line error occurs on the serial link between Router-B

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2001-02-08 Thread Brian Dennis
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not quite sure... At 11:19 AM 2/8/01, Jeremy Dumoit wrote: I actually think it depends on what encapsulation is running accross the serial link. If you're using HDLC then it's

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2001-02-07 Thread Dennis Laganiere
I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear... Host A is sending to Host D... A line error occurs on the serial link between Router-B and Router-C while passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B Devices - Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER CHOST D Interfaces - (A1)

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2001-02-07 Thread Tony van Ree
Hi, I was under the impression - If the remote end gets an error it asks the sending device to retransmit. This retransmitted packet came from the originator not the router. The store and forward as I understood it got a packet if all looked ok it sent it on if not it dropped it and sent