Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Steven A. Ridder
That's exactly what I was looking for, but can you tag IPX. I kept thinking that you could only tag IP. Now that I think of it, tagging is L2, so I could tag it, couldn't I? Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... in the old days of vlan switching, there was

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey
This is how I used to setup 3com 3500's. They could not do wire speed ip/ipx if they were on the same interface. so for every layer 3 network, you would actualy have two interfaces. Both of which would go back to the same vlan on the core switch. of course, at layer two, all the frames are

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey
Sounds like your novell admins just use compaq smart start and leave things at defaults. (novell WILL destroy a network if not configured properly) The tree is constantly updated. (putting your novell network on it's own l3 net also helps out a lot! And across WAN links? Forget it! If you

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Steven A. Ridder
One more thing, if I can tag IP and IPX, how do I route between the 2 vlans if one is IP and the other IPX? Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That's exactly what I was looking for, but can you tag IPX. I kept thinking that you could only tag IP.

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey
what? Now you've compeltely lost me! do you want to tunnel ipx and route to various vlans? I mean... If you have ipx on 1 interface and ip on the other, and they are on the same vlan, then you're done. But they won't route between the two because they are two different protocols. If you

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Steven Ridder
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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 01:50 PM 4/30/02, Patrick Ramsey wrote: what? Steven, what problem are you trying to solve?? Where are you trying to separate this traffic? I think we may need to see a logical topology of sorts. Also, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I'm still wondering if you are trying to

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey
will never get there. But I just want to be sure. Is my solution the way to go? From: Patrick Ramsey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855] Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:49:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [63.103.193.207

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey
to add to Priscilla's comment; locking down frame types is absolutely a must! And remember if you have two frame types bound to any interface, in order to route, you must have both frame types on the router interface. Otherwise only the original frame type will get out. (which in some

RE: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-30 Thread Kent Hundley
not a trivial one) Regards, Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven Ridder Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855] Believe me, I've confused myself

ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Steven A. Ridder
What are some good ways to separate IP and IPX traffic on a LAN? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42855t=42855 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams
How do you mean separate? You could use a router to separate the IP /IPX traffic (being that IP/IPX are Layer 3, only a layer 3 device would be able to separate them) =) Mike W. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What are some good ways to

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Chuck
in the old days of vlan switching, there was serious discussion of using vlans to separate traffic by protocol. set up ports 1,3 and 5 as IP and ports 2,4, and 6 as IPX. More importantly, put all those renegade AppleTalk users on their own VLAN so their traffic doesn't bother people with real

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 09:06 PM 4/29/02, Chuck wrote: in the old days of vlan switching, there was serious discussion of using vlans to separate traffic by protocol. set up ports 1,3 and 5 as IP and ports 2,4, and 6 as IPX. More importantly, put all those renegade AppleTalk users on their own VLAN so their traffic

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams
I guess you could do a setup like that However, anymore, virtually any device speaking IPX will also speak IP (i.e. all of our Novell servers run dual stacks IP and IPX as well as all PCs run both IPX and IP and all of our networked printers do both as well) kinda silly, but that's the

Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... AppleTalk traffic doesn't bother other people. AppleTalk devices don't broadcast; they multicast, and they don't do that very often. AppleTalk routers and servers don't ever broadcast (or multicast) service