Hi all, (warning, this is kinda confusing email)
Been following the list for some time and specially paying attention to
what could be the killer clojure app as Akka is for Scala.
I keep seeing small libs (I like libs) popping up like ants, but I don't
believe none of them (alone at least) can
Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com writes:
Sorry guys, I've been posting about Clojure since 2009, and still can't
see it becoming the main technology even being the CTO of the company.
What is the killer app for you? Or how do you think we can make
clojure supporting apps like Facebook or
Hi Paulo.
2014-04-19 18:15 GMT+02:00 Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com:
Hi all, (warning, this is kinda confusing email)
Been following the list for some time and specially paying attention to
what could be the killer clojure app as Akka is for Scala.
I keep seeing small libs (I like
The 'killer' problem domain for clojure is the same as that of any
lisp: the creation of domain-specific languages. There exist a
plethora of problems which are awkward to solve using conventional
programming, and clojure's macros make it easier.
An example is twitter's storm project. It's a
Hello everyone! I'm reading the clojure introduction at clojure-doc, I'm
currently on namespaces, and after reading about:
(require '[clojure.string :as str])
I tried to do:
user= (require '[javax.swing.JOptionPane/showMessageDialog :as Diag])
so I could do:
user= (Diag nil Hello Clojure!)
Hi,
And there's Storm that could be worth mentioning... used by some (very)
large companies (twitter ,groupon, etc...) and a success story. Also
prismatic is a good example, and I could mention more companies/products,
some that were acquired by big players, others used by millions, netflix
One point that makes me wonder is this: One of the points touted a lot is
the availability of immense ecosystem of Java. How does one balance
switching between immutable and mutable objects once Java objects are
brought into the mix. I have never used Java and Clojure together yet since
this
Why does Clojure need a single killer app? I use Clojure because it has a
wide range of useful tools, not because of any one tool in particular.
To my mind, any language that promotes itself on the basis of a single tool
is indicative of specialisation, which isn't what I want in a programming
Clojure namespaces do not interop with java objects like that except for
the 'import' statement.
The best you can do:
(import '[javax.swing JOptionPane])
(JOptionPane/showMessageDialog nil Hello Clojure)
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Ismael VC ismael.vc1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
Clojure's killer app is immutable datastructures. Libraries can
interoperate extremely easily because their interface is described with
simple data structures.
What's Java got for this? Spring? Design Patterns?
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM, James Reeves ja...@booleanknot.com wrote:
Why
When people say killer app what they mean is silver bullet. The problem
with silver bullets, is while they are quite exceptional at killing
vampires, they are often somewhat subpar when it comes to dispatching other
monsters of the night, such as ogres. Or at least so I've been told by my
friends.
Gary:
Immutability is awesome, the ease to work with concurrency in Clojure is
fantastic and the interop with Java is very good when you compare with
others JVM mainstream languages. But I'm affraid that these technical
features that are very important for us, devs, don't sell the language
2014-04-19 20:15 GMT+04:00 Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com:
People say clojure is good for data. But where are the cases? And more
specifically, where are the frameworks and libs to support it? Are they
talking about wrappers around java for Hadoop? Sigh...
I see lots of companies of all
Unfortunately I'm not a Stuart or a Emerick, or a Miller. So I can't really
contribute to clojure that deep. I'm in the user /tech consumer side.
That said, it is not my concern only. I have dozen colleagues that can't
foster clojure because they want a language with tools that fits every day.
I have dozen colleagues that can't foster clojure because they want a
language with tools that fits every day.
Can you explain this statement? I'm not sure I understand. I haven't
touched any language but Clojure for every day work in months (years?). I
can write a game in Clojure, I can write
Hi!
2014-04-19 23:00 GMT+02:00 Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com:
Unfortunately I'm not a Stuart or a Emerick, or a Miller. So I can't
really contribute to clojure that deep. I'm in the user /tech consumer
side.
That said, it is not my concern only. I have dozen colleagues that can't
Are there any javascript 2D animation libraries that are particularly
well-suited for use from clojurescript?
I'm especially interested in a library that uses a scenegraph to store
graphical objects in hierarchical relationships to one another.
Thanks,
Mark
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Andrey,
Yes. With killer app, I really don't want to find a silver bullet. But
something or some things that mostly pushes people to use the language.
Thanks to your contribution
On 19 Apr 2014 18:15, Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be wrote:
Hi!
2014-04-19 23:00 GMT+02:00 Paulo Suzart
But something or some things that mostly pushes people to use the
language.
If that's the case, then building cool stuff is probably the correct
answer. And in that case, this probably applies quite well to Clojure:
http://paulgraham.com/avg.html
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Paulo Suzart
Yes.
That's the point. You are taking about a bunch of wrappers. They are not
bad, but will not make these people to move their asses from java. Even if
they can introduce clojure in their tools set.
Thanks
On 19 Apr 2014 18:09, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
I have dozen
2014-04-20 1:26 GMT+04:00 Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com:
You are taking about a bunch of wrappers. They are not bad, but will not
make these people to move their asses from java.
Ask someone who's used Cascalog if they want to go back to writing Hadoop
jobs in Java.
Just a wrapper can be
That's the point. You are taking about a bunch of wrappers. They are not
bad, but will not make these people to move their asses from java. Even if
they can introduce clojure in their tools set.
That's utter bogus. Who has ever said that...I won't move to Clojure
because I can do it in Java.
Thanks Timothy. I also took some time to let it go and be able to
criticize/show my concerns about something that I really like.
thanks for your 50 cent.
On 19 Apr 2014 18:39, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
That's the point. You are taking about a bunch of wrappers. They are not
2014-04-19 23:39 GMT+02:00 Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com:
That's the point. You are taking about a bunch of wrappers. They are not
bad, but will not make these people to move their asses from java. Even if
they can introduce clojure in their tools set.
That's utter bogus. Who has
What's killer about clojure is not an app, but an idea. Simplicity.
Everything else stems from that idea. Immutability, decomplecting, data first,
consistent abstractions - all the things we like to talk about in clojure are
really about simplicity. It's about getting all the crap out of
While searching for MultiSet or Bag resources, I found this implementation
by Achim Passen at: A simple multiset/bag implementation for Clojure.
However, I found I could meet my needs by adding functions to treat
vectors, or other collection types, as unordered. These can then be used
Added link missing in previous post.
A simple multiset/bag implementation for
Clojurehttps://github.com/achim/multiset
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On Apr 19, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com wrote:
Been following the list for some time and specially paying attention to what
could be the killer clojure app as Akka is for Scala.
I don't think Akka is a killer app for Scala. Scala is a multi-paradigm
general purpose
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Thanks Gary!
My intention is to have an alias, so making a new function, seems to be the
best option:
(defn dialog
Shows a dialog and asks for confirmation.
[message]
(javax.swing.JOptionPane/showMessageDialog nil message))
(dialog Hello Clojure!)
Is there any difference or drawback in
There's no drawback.
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Ismael VC ismael.vc1...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Gary!
My intention is to have an alias, so making a new function, seems to be
the best option:
(defn dialog
Shows a dialog and asks for confirmation.
[message]
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