not
in the standard. With that feature and a good type inference engine, it
would be possible for a macro to generate code depending on the static type
of one or more of its arguments, because you could query the environment
for the type of each variable.
Alessio Stalla
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On Mar 23, 9:01 am, Giorgio Valoti giorgi...@me.com wrote:
Il giorno 22/mar/2012, alle ore 10:21, Marco Dalla Stella ha scritto:
Hi,
I just want to know if there are any other italian Clojure users in
the ml, maybe for open an Italian Clojure User Group and organize some
meetings...
On 15 Nov, 16:58, Konrad Hinsen googlegro...@khinsen.fastmail.net
wrote:
On 15 Nov, 2011, at 15:46 , Doug South wrote:
I know a little CL and even less of Clojure, but wouldn't Clojure in CL be
fairly trivial? Just a DSL in CL?
All of Clojure's persistent data structures would have to be
On 25 Ago, 20:21, Nick Zbinden nick...@gmail.com wrote:
@Aaron: Could you go into why this is the case? What does jruby do
that it needs it so much and clojure does not.
@Tal Liron: You seem to differ in your opinion with Aaron (pretty sure
you would not be investing your time otherwise).
On 18 Lug, 18:40, Arthur Edelstein arthuredelst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Tamreen,
On Jul 18, 5:38 am, Tamreen Khan histor...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a little confusing to see what's normally the text for the prompt,
user=, be in the window that shows the result. Why can't both the prompt
and
On 11 Lug, 13:51, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:01 AM, mike.w.me...@gmail.com m...@mired.org
wrote:
[snip most of post whose sole purpose seems to be to gainsay anything I write]
The only source control system I know that uses an ACID database doesn't
On 6 Lug, 09:07, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alessio Stalla alessiosta...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 5 Lug, 18:49, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
1. A too-large string literal should have a specific error message,
rather than generate a misleading
On 5 Lug, 18:49, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Patrick Houk path...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the file you are evaluating have more than 65535 characters? As
far as I can tell, that is the maximum length of a String literal in
Java (see the
On Jun 16, 2:59 am, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for all the help, all of you. The Clojure community has a reputation
for being helpful :)
The example of age as a property which might change from a value to a
function was indeed a strawman, but it was just an example. So
On 4 Mag, 06:53, Luc Prefontaine lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Hi,
being tired of wandering through a few thousand lines of XML Spring bean
definitions, I finally wrote a library
to start moving away from Spring/XML. It's definitively nicer doing
dependency injection/auto-wiring using
On 4 Mag, 01:34, Chris Perkins chrisperkin...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 3, 5:22 pm, André Thieme splendidl...@googlemail.com wrote:
Some of the limitations:
1. (defmacro x [] `(let [a# ~(atom 0)]))
2. (defmacro y [] `(let [a# ~(comp inc inc)])) ; from that link
3. (defmacro z [] `(let
On 4 Mag, 16:29, Marshall T. Vandegrift llas...@gmail.com wrote:
André Thieme splendidl...@googlemail.com writes:
Please try this minimal example in your REPL:
(defn f [x] (fn [] x)) ; the closure factory
(def foo (f 0)) ; a useful instance
(defmacro bar [] `(let [a# ~foo]))
and then
On Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:34:02 PM UTC+1, tbc++ wrote:
I didn't have much trouble getting things running. Is
the CLASSPATH really so much different to the PYTHONPATH,
LD_LIBRARY_PATH or even the plain old PATH itself?
No, it's not that much different, except python is a bit more smart
On Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:29:56 PM UTC+1, Jules wrote:
Thanks Andy,
I agree that there is no practical remnant of generics in the runtime as I
have poked around with reflection as well, but I think there might be in the
bytecode, otherwise if I compiled a generic interface, stuck it
On 24 Mar, 17:54, Alan a...@malloys.org wrote:
On Mar 24, 9:47 am, Alessio Stalla alessiosta...@gmail.com wrote:
Reflection is aware of generic type
variables:http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/lang/reflect/Generi...
What is lost at runtime is information about
On 23 Mar, 23:55, ultranewb pineapple.l...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:11 am, Mike Meyer m...@mired.org wrote:
Long version: Okay, I'm very new to Clojure. But I'm not a Java
programmer (don't want to be).
I don't think you can get very far in Clojure without having to come
to
On Wednesday, March 2, 2011 2:54:07 PM UTC+1, Jules wrote:
[snip]
I don't have time to look at this any further today, but I think it is
looking promising if I can find a way to avoid class name collisions -
more hacking of clojure.lang I'm afraid :-(
Apologies for posting all the source
On Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:46:03 AM UTC+1, Jules wrote:
Thanks, Alessio,
I did know this, but it is a welcome addition to the thread.
Ok. Classloaders are a tricky matter and many people don't have clear ideas
about them - sorry for assuming you were one of those people :)
I
On 23 Feb, 01:28, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not crazy about this behavior either, but my understanding is that
this is an intentional design decision that is a direct consequence of
two things:
1. In Clojure IDEs, people want to be able to feed the compiler
single
On 23 Feb, 19:51, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
Java has a lack of this top-down processing,
That's not true, what do you mean?
class Foo {
void bar() { baz(); }
void baz() {}
}
compiles fine, as well as
class Foo {
void bar() { new Baz(); }
}
class Baz {}
and it sometimes
On 21 Feb, 14:27, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
On Feb 20, 2011, at 5:27 AM, FD wrote:
Is there something similar to the lisp macro ignore-errors (http://
www.ai.mit.edu/projects/iiip/doc/CommonLISP/HyperSpec/Body/mac_ignore...)
I use this:
(defmacro ignore-errors
Returns
On Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:54:17 PM UTC+1, TimDaly wrote:
[snip]
In sum, I'm suggesting that it isn't very lispy to use
hierarchical namespace naming conventions.
I think all you said is very true... *if* the user of a namespace is allowed
to change its name (i.e. Common Lisp's
On Wednesday, January 5, 2011 11:06:34 AM UTC+1, David wrote:
Consider the two definitions:
(defn if-let-good [str]
(if-let [rest (seq (drop-while (partial = \a) str))]
(first rest)
empty))
(defn if-let-bad [seq]
(if-let [rest (seq (drop-while (partial = \a) seq))]
On Monday, December 20, 2010 8:54:14 PM UTC+1, kaveh_shahbazian wrote:
I understand hosting on a VM has it's own (huge) advantages: GC,
libraries, proved practices and vast amount of research and community
effort already available; no doubt on that part.
It is just having a mature and
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:55:58 PM UTC+1, Santosh Rajan wrote:
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Alessio Stalla alessi...@gmail.com
wrote:
It could be written on top of Common Lisp. There are natively compiled,
multithreaded, cross-platform implementations of it, and building
On Nov 14, 6:48 am, Robert McIntyre r...@mit.edu wrote:
So my friend and I were screwing around, battling versions of LISP as
nerds are wont to do, when I came across this:
(eval `(clojure.core/+ ~@(take 1e4 (iterate inc 1
Invalid method Code length 89884 in class file user$eval13607
On 15 Nov, 19:34, Brian Goslinga quickbasicg...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, assuming the memory is available, at least Clojure is guaranteed
to support vectors with more than 1024 elements...
Unfair comparison. Clojure is not a standard, it's an implementation.
SBCL is guaranteed to support vectors
On Oct 19, 8:18 am, Rob Lachlan robertlach...@gmail.com wrote:
I see, thank you for linking to the ticket, Phil that really clarifies
things. I suppose that I would tend more to Chas Emerick's view in
his sept 28 comment (on the ticket), questioning whether there is a
need to validate
On Sep 16, 4:10 pm, Nicolas Oury nicolas.o...@gmail.com wrote:
The logged function would have to be already a generic method, no?
Yes, and in idiomatic Common Lisp that's not particularly common
(pardon the pun). Generic functions are typically only used when
dynamic dispatch is actually needed.
On 17 Set, 17:34, Doug Philips douglas.phil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 08:50, Alessio Stalla alessiosta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 16, 4:10 pm, Nicolas Oury nicolas.o...@gmail.com wrote:
Note also that the OP's original example does not require anything
more than what
On Sep 9, 6:06 pm, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Mike Meyer
mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org wrote:
And two tools - lein and clojure itself.
I'm not sure Clojure should be counted separately since you're not
installing it yourself.
So we
On Sep 8, 5:41 pm, lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Writing tons of XML lines to control behavior of frameworks was also a turn
off. We use Spring to create low-level Java beans but the XML describing
these beans did not change much over time. That is acceptable.
I think Lisp is very well
On Sep 6, 5:48 pm, K. kotot...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've got a concurrency problem and it's not really clear to me how to
solve it. I have a Swing GUI doing a search in background with agents
and the results are displayed one after the other, also in background.
Here is, largely
On Jul 2, 5:20 am, Brian Schlining bschlin...@gmail.com wrote:
There's URLClassLoader for loading classes at runtime. Javadocs are
athttp://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/net/URLClassLoader.html.
There's
an old thread about using it athttp://
On Jun 30, 10:41 pm, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
I wasn't complaining about what you said; I was just glad someone else
was recognizing that talk is cheap and effort is not.
Ok, sorry, I misinterpreted your words.
Peace,
Alessio
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On 1 Lug, 17:47, Brian Schlining bschlin...@gmail.com wrote:
Where I struggle is with the practicalities of managing the classpath.
From what I can tell, there is no way of modifying the classpath from
a running Java/Clojure program (barring use of a custom classloader
which sounds like
On Jun 30, 5:19 am, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 June 2010 11:15, cageface milese...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 29, 6:25 pm, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you *trying* to evoke the Smug Lisp Weenie vibe, cageface, or is
this
just a natural byproduct
On 30 Giu, 18:35, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Alessio Stalla
alessiosta...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't mean that a one-
click-install for a Lisp with an IDE and some
On 26 Giu, 07:53, rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com wrote:
It can (but its startup is slow, currently). May I ask you why you
wouldn't want to use it?
One reason is that from what little I know about ABCL it seems more
straightforward working with Java libraries in Clojure, but also there is a
On 18 Giu, 16:52, rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com wrote:
As an informal survey of people who use both Clojure and Common Lisp for
different projects, what do you see as the main determining factors behind
your choice to use either Clojure or Common Lisp for a project, given the
present state of
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