Paypal can be setup for reoccuring payments. I know I do that with
DropBox - not sure how one sets that up thou...
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> I think it would be useful if there was some way to (mostly)
> automatically donate $10/month.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Brian Goslinga wrote:
> I think it would be useful if there was some way to (mostly)
> automatically
I think it would be useful if there was some way to (mostly)
automatically donate $10/month.
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Also a windows installer, and no asking
> the user to compile things, make it as shrink wrapped as possible,
> with a good online tutorial, and chat help all bundled together in
> a quick install.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> Rich Hickey wrote:
>> Funding Cloju
wrapped as possible,
with a good online tutorial, and chat help all bundled together in
a quick install.
Brian
Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is pa
I'd just like to second the request for selling a CD with Clojure 1.0 on it.
No support, no additional features; just a CD with the Clojure jar file or
something.
I'd even go a step further and have multiple versions that would be
identical except for the disc label,
Gold, $1000
Silver, $500
Bronz
Just donated. Thank you very much for Clojure, and I hope that this
funding model works out for everybody!
Cheers,
Brad
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I'm not using Clojure in any real way yet, but just funded.
Why? Because I respect the effort, wish I could do the same thing, and
would want people to support me if they loved what I was doing and/or
found it useful or joyous.
Dave
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I'm glad Rich stepped up and made this difficult but important point
clearly. With a gentle yearly reminder I will continue to contribute.
For other revenue, I'm glad to say that I've signed up for the
Pragmatic Studio's Clojure training in March 2010 --
https://pragmaticstudio.com/clojure
Severa
I suggest to make a call for popularizing Clojure also.
I feel lack of publicity and *quick explanations* with *simple examples* of
why Clojure is better than others.
May be we have a situation when everybody thinks that Clojure is so
excellent that everybody understands it. But though Clojure is
al product ? You could build an IDE for
> > > > Clojure and sell it. You could write a book (although that is unlikely
> > > > to really pay). You could build a "stackoverflow"-type community,
> > > > organize events/conferences, etc. You might want to tal
a commercial product ? You could build an IDE for
> > > > Clojure and sell it. You could write a book (although that is unlikely
> > > > to really pay). You could build a "stackoverflow"-type community,
> > > > organize events/conferences, etc. You might wa
"stackoverflow"-type community,
> > > organize events/conferences, etc. You might want to talk to some VC
> > > firm and see if they'd be interested in funding you. They could help
> > > you out figure a revenue model.
>
> > > Best of luck!
>
&
e community,
> > organize events/conferences, etc. You might want to talk to some VC
> > firm and see if they'd be interested in funding you. They could help
> > you out figure a revenue model.
>
> > Best of luck!
>
> > On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
>
unlikely
> to really pay). You could build a "stackoverflow"-type community,
> organize events/conferences, etc. You might want to talk to some VC
> firm and see if they'd be interested in funding you. They could help
> you out figure a revenue model.
>
> Best of luc
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> the thought that the key developer might just stop working on it doesn't
> exactly
> give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Look at the last paragraph of Rich's message. He has every intention
to keep working on it. Surely he will speak for himself, but my
impression is that he wants to be ab
ity,
organize events/conferences, etc. You might want to talk to some VC
firm and see if they'd be interested in funding you. They could help
you out figure a revenue model.
Best of luck!
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
Rich,
What prevents Clojure from being funded by grants like NSF and DARPA
which normally fund academic research?
Best,
Brent Millare
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On Dec 14, 12:19 pm, BerlinBrown wrote:
> Have you ever considered working with a larger company like Oracle/
> Sun, IBM or Google in some kind of research capacity and working on
> Clojure full time there? For example, I believe the JRuby developers
> worked for Sun at one point while they devel
bank account again so I can make
a donation myself :)
- Charlie
On Dec 14, 8:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying for it, because someone is. Ther
I'm sorry, but I find the whole "donate" thing a little
off-putting. I've just started looking into Clojure, and the thought
that the key developer might just stop working on it doesn't exactly
give me a warm fuzzy feeling. Now the evaluation will have to include
looking at the community, and tryin
I haven't used Clojure for anything yet, but I've really liked your
recorded presentations--they've already had an effect on how I
program. I also would love to see an open source project like this be
able to survive on contributions from individual developers so I've
donated.
While I appreciate
ing Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying for it, because someone is. There is no such thing as free
> software.
>
> Sometimes open source software is developed under a license with
>
Haven't used Clojure much yet, but plan on using it more as soon as I
am capable. In fact, I am so sold on Clojure I stopped using a paid-
for copy of Lispworks a week after buying it when I discovered
Clojure. Since Clojure runs on the JVM and interoperates with Java, I
am now learning Java, somet
A good comment from reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/aeixf/funding_clojure/c0h6uij
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Mark P wrote:
>> This strikes me as a potentially disastrous idea; look at how much
>> mindshare going the proprietary route has cost Rebol, for instance.
>
> I don't know anything about Rebol except for some quick
> googling that I've just done on them. But the i
> This strikes me as a potentially disastrous idea; look at how much
> mindshare going the proprietary route has cost Rebol, for instance.
I don't know anything about Rebol except for some quick
googling that I've just done on them. But the impression
I get is that what they've done is substantia
I sent my contribution. Thanks for your work on Clojure. It's
brought me many weekends of joyful hacking. Please continue to let
the community know what's necessary to sustain Clojure's development.
On Dec 14, 6:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2
meone
else in the community to take up if you think it is a good idea. I may
be willing...
Brenton
On Dec 14, 6:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Mark P wrote:
>
> This approach seems to me to be a good compromise between
> open source and proprietary funding. It provides all the benefits of
> open source over time, yet provides a tangible reason for paying
> licence fees beyond just goodwill. It also mean
I very much hope your voluntary donation approach works. I
suspect the best chance of making it work is if you regularly
remind-people-of/market/promote the idea of donating. That is,
I believe there is a lot of goodwill out there, and a lot of people
will have good intentions, but it is easy for
cts in Clojure, I'll contribute code back as much as I can.
- budu
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying for it, because someone
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Rich Hickey wrote:
> [...] Individual users
>
> If you are an individual user of Clojure, I encourage you to
> contribute $100/year to Clojure development, via the donation system. [...]
That's less than 0.3 starbucks-coffees per day! (Even less per day
if you
For years I have complained about the parts of java I don't like, and
lamented the stagnation of lisp. I never imagined anyone could
simultaneously attack both issues so beautifully and so successfully.
Bravo.
I have yet to make a dime using Clojure, but hope to some day. So as a
Christmas presen
n Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:19 PM, BerlinBrown wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> > Funding Clojure 2010
> >
> > Background
> > --
> >
> > It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> > is payi
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying for it, because someone is. There is no such thing as free
> software.
>
> Sometimes ope
For me, Clojure actually decreases my income. I can program so much
faster in Clojure that I generate fewer billable hours :) .
Seriously though, I am donating because Clojure makes programming more
fun. That's reason enough for me.
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tant for individuals to participate, so that clojure remains well-
rounded going forward. even if you only know enough to think you
might like clojure, now is really the most important time to be
supportive on the individual level.
cheers,
grantmichaels
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
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> If you are an individual user of Clojure, I encourage you to
> contribute $100/year to Clojure development, via the donation system.
Done!
And should I ever be in the position of using Clojure for anything
more than hobby projects I'll be sure to push for some more money to
come your way.
Chee
I'm happy to support you in this way Rich, even though I only use
Clojure for hobby projects and do not make any money on it either. I
sent my donation.
Good luck.
Zef
On Dec 14, 4:16 pm, Rich Hickey wrote:
> On Dec 14, 10:08 am, Paul Nakata wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 7:48 am, Rich Hickey wrote
e or sponsor Clojure.
- Chas
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
> is paying for it, because someone is. There is no such thing as free
> sof
I barely have time to do anything in Clojure these days, but the work
you've done, the talks you've given, and so on are worth "the price of
admission". I really do hope enough chip in so you can focus on your
work with the language until such time as you can make it profitable
in other ways, if t
About the donations. Is there any way we can see how you are doing
donation-wise, compared to the target for personal donations you would
like to reach? I think people find it easier to donate, if they have
insight in how much you've received this month / this calendar year
compared to your target.
On Dec 14, 10:08 am, Paul Nakata wrote:
> On Dec 14, 7:48 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 9:39 am, Sean Devlin wrote:
>
> > > Rich,
> > > For those of us in the US, what are the tax implications? Is there a
> > > non-profit set up at this time?
>
> > It is not a non-profit.
>
> > Ric
On Dec 14, 7:48 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> On Dec 14, 9:39 am, Sean Devlin wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> > For those of us in the US, what are the tax implications? Is there a
> > non-profit set up at this time?
>
> It is not a non-profit.
>
> Rich
This is being linked to externally, is there a link for t
On Dec 14, 9:39 am, Sean Devlin wrote:
> Rich,
> For those of us in the US, what are the tax implications? Is there a
> non-profit set up at this time?
>
It is not a non-profit.
Rich
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For those of us in the US, what are the tax implications? Is there a
non-profit set up at this time?
Sean
On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Funding Clojure 2010
>
> Background
> --
>
> It is important when using open source software that you consider who
Funding Clojure 2010
Background
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Sometimes open source software is developed under a license with
undesirable properties (e.g. the GPL
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