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> FYI - I published the Fedora 34 GCP image to the `fedora-cloud` project in
> GCP.
> See https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/328 for more details.
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> OK, the problem isn't with the key, it is with Putty.
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> Does Fedora cloud images support EFI boot?
> Or better, there are images built to boot on EFI platforms?
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> plan is to move Fedora Cloud under Fedora Server's umbrella.
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See https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/139
I'm looking into what we can do about the non-official and possibly malicious
AMIs, but a first-line defense should be making sure we expand to these ne
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So, thinking back to "These folks generally prefer not to use "antiquated"
media like email and IRC at all", maybe the answer is _not a mailing list at
all_? I've been thinking of spinning up Discourse instance in OpenShift (either
th
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I don't think we want to direct all Fedora-related Atomic development
discussion to projectatomic.io -- I don't think that's very discoverable for
people in the Fedora community and will lead to confusion about 1) Fedora
Atomic Host a
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Because we do the nodocs and not all langs thing, the base docker image is
missing files that prevent deltarpms from working on `dnf update`. This slows
things down and wastes time when doing docker build. W
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I mean, not that I don't also have faith in you guys. :)
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For what it's worth, I was talking with a Red Hat filesystems engineer and he
strongly recommended moving to XFS across all of Fedora. Pretty much the only
downside is lack of filesystem shrinking, and I don't think that's a big issue
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I still think we need a much, much more modular systemd package to address
this, rather than a fake one.
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That's less than I expected, really. :)
(And some of it really random. From coreutils, we loose `pinky` but not
`base32` (which isn't in EL7 and I'd never heard of... but that's another
story.)
I'd really love to see a bug associated
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Is it possible to make the minimal image the base of the regular image? That
seems ideal from a testing perspective (not to mention explosion of streams).
I've had in the back of my mind for a while the idea of fedora-minimal and
fedo
reporting on soon... :)
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What is the size impact? Is it possible or will it be possible in the near
future to add locales (perhaps as system containers)?
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I like the idea of building only when something changes, although as Dusty
pointed out to me, that's practically a moot point for monthly updated images,
as there's _always_ going to be something that's changed in that time.
For "wher
g
non-beta releases are.
I definitely don't want to treat these as extra and special. A two-week
candidate should start being produced as a matter of course at branch.
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I'd also like to add Dply (https://dply.co/). This is an experimental service
run by a Digital Ocean employee, and basically lets you get started with the
smallest droplets quickly. The cool thing — in addition to the very low bar for
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> What's bringing in all of this stuff?
Not sure, but offhand it looks like stuff that might be leaking in from
build dependencies somehow. (All that srpm macro stuff?)
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issue at beta release time, it's okay to present an earlier build and
later update once that's fixed. If necessary, we can call this
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Can we combine 3 & 5 into one point?
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I can't make this. But, do you have someone from Modularity and/or Base
Runtime in this?
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I'd like to look at the logs still. :)
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Kushal, were you able to get the system logs from a failed image?
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It *also* just came up in the latest Marketing meeting.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 06:11:50PM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Tested the Cloud-Base vagrant virtualbox image with the puppet selinux
> modules acceptance tests (https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-selinux).
> Looks good.
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> If yes we need people to volunteer for that.
I don't think we should put a huge amount of work into the wiki, at
least for public consumption. (It's okay for SIG/WG workspace.) I
*hope* that we will have our revitalized docs infrastructure online
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. When I do a dnf system-upgrade to rawhide of a vanilla f25 cloud
image, there is some additional stuff -- including having both python2
and python3 -- but I don't think enough to cause that.
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Once the team has consensus on the preferred approach, it would be good to
bring it to FESCo to make an official exception to the updates policy. (See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Exceptions)
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The Fedora approach would be to create a
[Copr](https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/).
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ut there should be some way to "scroll back" all the way to the GA
releases.)
8. Decide if we want to switch Cloud Base entirely to this
automatic process and eschew release milestones
I'm sure I'm missing something -- what else should be added?
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_I_ think it makes sense to have that on a prerelease page, but I'll let others
weigh in too.
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I think that we should start producing prelease images immediately at the
branch (later this month — 2017-02-21) as part of the two-week process. I don't
think there should be specific Alpha/Beta builds.
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I meant here:
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for "Fedora".
Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
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> did not make any changes on the tests.
Yeah, but... how could that go wrong in this way?
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x27;, f)
AssertionError: 'useradd' not found in ''
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Ran 1 test in 0.140s
FAILED (failures=1)
How is it that useradd is not found in this image but everything else
works and other images are fine?
r else don't mind a few minutes of downtime here and
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I think we can simplify the rules to
1. RootFS: 25% of disk space, with a minimum of 3GB and a maximum of 16GB
2. Docker Partition: maximum of 50% of total disk space
3. Leave anything else unallocated
No need to specify a rule for un
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This should be easy to do with anaconda-based installs, but how would this work
with images?
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> > with 2 CPU(s) or get this issue fixed somehow?
> I think we need to find out what the issue is and fix it.
+1. I wonder if this is actually a widespread problem that we've just
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Hi David. I _do_, but we've been blocked on legal for... years. Email me or hit
me up on IRC and I can give you details, but the short of it is that Fedora
can't sign anything promising support beyond the community support we offer —
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The current process is "wait until someone complains". I think we can do
better. :)
They're announced at https://aws.amazon.com/new/#global-infra — maybe we come
up with automation, or maybe it's just a mat
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Actually, looks like we're missing several:
* US East (Ohio)
* Canada (Central)
* EU (London) ← and note that Ireland and Frankfurt are no longer "EU West" and
"EU Central"
* Asia Pacific (Mumbai)
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote:
> > With the power of roshi we might be able to make this happen!
> > Also, I think he likes beer.
> It's on my list of things that need a test plan :)
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> Dear Matthew Miller,
>
> I see you commented about AWS Seoul region about a year ago. But we still
> don't have fedora cloud AMI listed in Seoul region..
>
> If this issue was forgotten because no one e
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This [opened in
January](https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-open-aws-asia-pacific-seoul-region/)
and we missed it. (If we were in the Amazon Marketplace, this would happen
automatically. Oh well.)
See re
place to ask, can you please point me
> to the correct place?
I would suggest either adding to this ticket
https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/issue/57
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brief statement
> Even though that is the intended use, the usage description should be
> uniform and state what capability or function is provided.
> Actual usage pattern for code is always more interesting than intended use.
... and doesn't the "description" cove
we should probably
follow a consistent convention.
Also, looks like instead of "usage", that recommends:
help Command to run the help command of the image
runCommand to run the image
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USAGE: Invoked by $OTHERCONTAINER
or
USAGE: Invoked by Kubernetes when $WHATEVERTRIGGERS
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:33:05AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > USAGE: single command line giving usage example
> > for invoking the container; will be "N/A" for
> > some containers.
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then
> > randomly allows to ssh again.
> > I could not reproduce this using the same images over our OpenStack
> > cloud. Any tips will be helpful to find the cause.
> >
> Can we get together and debug this?
Is this a key-generation entropy proble
> discuss this further on its own.
So, good news — we're very, very close to having it so you can drop
taskotron checks into dist-git and have them run automatically when the
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a look at
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-eb3447f0f7 and at
the bottom in the "Feedback Guidelines", see "Test Case calc
interactive" and "Test Case calc regress".
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e expect the Cloud Base Image to merge with Fedora
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@jberkus Whatever was wrong before seems fixed now.
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@jberkus I suspect it's related to the FAS change to use kerberos. Maybe
someone from the infra team can help.
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I'm seeing that problem too. It was working previously, so I'm not sure
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dipping into the process. And, hey, it's an easy example of a
containerized command-line tool.
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> I have been identified as a stakeholder of this image and have an
> action item to deliver some paragraph that indicates such to sgallagh.
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I think we had general agreement around what we want to do here:
have the Cloud Base Image become instead Fedora Server, but shipped
as a cloud image and made available in cloud providers. What are the
next steps to actually get there?
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> We can enable motdgen.service at system boot. This will execute atomic and
> dnf commands only during first boot and cache the results.
I'm concerned that this'll make the first boot annoying slow. Can we just run
it from a systemd
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CentOS isn't officially there directly - it's provided by SoftLayer. I'm not
sure of all of the details behind that.
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We are probably still blocked on legal issues for getting a listing, but that
doesn't mean it shouldn't _work_. We could also better document the process by
which users can get the image uploaded themselves.
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some followup articles with things
like "set up Wordpress in a container on Fedora Atomic" with pre-cooked
configs for doing that with a button press.
To try it (Fedora 24), click this: https://dply.co/b/fz95S8RH
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I have two small ones.
First, I think the freshness indicator is not visible enough in the top bar.
Maybe that's just me. I guess, for one thing, it's easy to gloss over
header-section text, but also, there's no indication that that's
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Should we update Josh's wiki page above or put proposals here?
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> Where fedora/apache has > 1 million pulls,
Once we've transitioned to the new system, let's make sure we don't lose this —
we need a plan to get the images from the new build system to the docker hub
somehow.
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just say drop the first
> httpd and make it registry.fedoraproject.org/httpd:latest
I'd hate to make it top-level simply because modularity forgot to
handle this because we forgot to tell them...
> Thoughts? Should we bring this to the modularity group for review?
detail (just
the label, nothing in the path at all). Does that present any practical
problems that I'm not seeing?
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tests the build infrastruture, mostly), but it'd be a lot
more valuable if they pulled in updates. (It'd actually be good to have
one with updates-testing, too, as an early-warning system.)
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n the security team tells us to, and they
didn't as far as I know reach out to say so in this case. (I think
usually that's been for issues classified as "critical".)
We *did* have aspirations of releasing respun cloud images monthly in
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What's the status of all of this?
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/326
Rawhide still completely failing,
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/324
and no F24 composes at all?
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> Now that Cloud -> Atomic and will be focusing on Project Atomic, can we move
> the
> Docker base image into this group from the "Fedora Base" group?
Somebody who cares about it should own it, is all I care
take a lot of karma, too.
I think we should have the ability to selectively pull things like this
into Atomic from updates-testing. This seems like a poster-child case
for when that might be a good idea. (But I don't see anything there,
either.)
s Cat vs. Heisenbug, the marketing push should be
around Atomic, Workstation, and Server individually.
The release does give us an excuse for PR, but it's my sense that two
releases a year is a little overwhelming for that — we are still
getting F24 reviews coming in. And, since column inches
no reason that can't work
with the new Atomic-focused design. For that matter, we could launch
that _before_ the GA.
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ile — basically,
since Release Blocker is the only big attention-forcing hammer we have,
we tend to hit too many things with it. We need a different way.
> Now, we could discuss alternatives, such as having
> Atomic Host being able to carry its own overrides
> temporarily.
As you know, I&#
efinition.
As we get into the Grand World of Modularity, there's going to be more
and more stuff like this. If the base runtime is updating on a one
month cycle, and GNOME updating whenever the upstream x.y.1 is ready,
and server roles all coming out as each is updated... a "release&quo
nsition from this to Fedora-Atomic-25? Manual
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ble image.
It probably will, but I think it answers the question about whether
making it a release-blocker for everything else is even possible.
For F26, would it be possible to start building it at branch from
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ages will be composed out of existing
RPMs, is there any reason to _not_ keep both branches? We basically get
that "for free" in terms of human effort (although not build time and
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Atomic *needs* to be release blocking, because if it
misses the grand unified release, we have the ability to update it at
the next cycle, so it's less of a big deal. But if we collectively
prefer to make sure everything is lined up on the release day... I can
see arguments f
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