Hi Fred,
We're hull number 150 built 1983 in Rhode Island. We purchased IM from an
American couple (Dave and Linda) in the Philippines a couple of years
ago after they had spent 15 years cruising in the Pacific, crossing from
Mexico. They bought her from a family that sailed her around the
That would be an adjustment and the handicap would take a hit for it ...
unless it was one of the newer boats like Farr 30 or similar that has
masthead chute and fractional rig as a standard design. One note -
changing a fractional boat to fly a masthead chute puts other than
designed for forces
Tim
You could always sell your boat and get a Melges 24, 32 or something of
that ilk. Then by the time the boats like you now have get in all your
cerw would be gone because THERE IS NOT INTERIOR to relax in afterward!
Fast is nice on light boats but you give up an awful lot to have that
boat
You have to rig a halyard for it. We kept the fractional halyard and added the
one at the top of the mast - put a sheave up there and ran the halyard tail
down inside the mast and out the side. We still use the fractional chute when
it is blowing.
Gary
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From:
I am very happy with my gear from Milltech. Pretty much all the Class B stuff
uses the same chipset from what I can tell, so it isn’t like one works and the
other ones don’t.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion
Sent: Monday,
Agreed. We took a six second hit for the masthead chute. We sail mostly in
light air, so are careful - the last few feet of the mast are only supported by
the back stay, as the shrouds come out of the mast at the same level as the
fractional chute and forestay.
We, as I said earlier, only fly
Gary
J24? Sure sounds like it when you say fractional 24 and spongy deck!
Also on the J24 is quite a tapered mast so agree only use MH chute in
light wind.
Of course I may be mistaken and teh CC24 could have been made
fractional but I believe is MH
From:
I have an AH 400 unit from about 1988, so it has been working for 25 years now.
Kind of like George Washington's ax, the drive and the computer have all been
repaired more than once. This is no thanks to Autohelm/Raytheon/RayMarine, who
told me to NEVER send it in again for repairs again after
Sorry, I should have been clearer - J-24 - belongs to a friend - we have been
racing together for over 10 years, sometimes he has raced on Penniless (my
30-1) and I have raced on his j-24. We raced together on another friend's J-80,
but I dropped off that one (too intense for me) to move to
With you there Mike; cruising would also be much less comfortable and would
probably end up costing more in hotel rooms for the admiral. The
solution may be two boats, but my TLOA recently crept up to 145' with a
couple more SUP's...
Tim
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Hoyt, Mike
I bought Indigo in 1997 and inherited a minimum 8 year old Autohelm 4000 with
an electric linear drive. It has worked faithfully since with no needed repairs
other than a periodic cleaning and lubrication of the drive helix mechanism
which I do myself in less than an hour. I found another
Joe,
In light of your last post I have some questions. Mainly because I seem to have
set about adding an under-deck autopilot doing exactly the opposite of your
recommendations. I’m not trying to be contrary and am very interested in your
take on the matter.
After yeoman’s service on my 37’
I came into some PETTIT HORIZONS PRO at a steep discount.
It appears to be the same stuff now marketed as PETTIT ULTRA SR40.
Defender had it on sale for $40 a gallon, yes $40! I should have bought
out the lot right then and there but I didn't. I did go back after the
sale ended and purchase a
MAC should have read nav. Phones
Also the A4000 is an under deck unit. Love it like a dishwasher. Always there
when you need it.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-03-26, at 11:15, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote:
I bought Indigo in 1997 and inherited a minimum 8 year old
Up here in northern Minnesota/Wisconsin (almost Canada…), being on the hard is
an annual event as the water freezes solid. Here's a satellite picture of Lake
Superior from almost exactly four years ago -- the area I primarily sail is the
grouping of islands near the western end of the lake:
We loved the hydraulic units because a hydraulic ram is nearly indestructible.
The only thing that can really go wrong is a bad seal and that can be fixed
anywhere in the world. A bad pump can be swapped out fairly easily in a remote
spot. When the rudder was not supposed to be moving the
I'd definitely use this drive with a Raymarine corepack:
http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=OCTAF1212LAM12
Cheaper than the Raymarine linear drive, too.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:07 AM,
That's the drive I have on the Enterprise. It's my Robertson unit that won't
run it anymore.
So any control unit could be attached to this?
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City
Pretty much - most drives will work with any autopilot computer that can supply
enough current to run it.
Joe Della Barba
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List
For the last several years my business partner and I I have used Karl
Allen, Karl's Marine Service, to do the mechanical stuff we didn't want to
do/couldn't do. He did good work at a fair price, but I can't get a hold
of him. In fact, he never billed either of us for the work he did to
winterize
Joe, thanks. Good points about the flexing issues. I know that the mounts for
the setup that I constructed are rock solid but now I’m rethinking the
placement issue vis-à-vis the hull. I can imagine the hull flexing in that
location. The nearest bulkhead is a good 18” or better away.
I have
Fred,
Come to Annapolis Sunday. Temps in the 50s, southerly winds 8-10. I plan
to shove off late morning.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.netwrote:
Up here in northern Minnesota/Wisconsin (almost Canada…), being on the
hard is an
All these posts are really good timing for me and Finesse, 85 Landfall 39
(19,500 displacement). Until now...was pretty much sold on Raymarine P70, X-10
Type 1 mechanical linear drive which is rated up to 24,000 lbs. Plan to cruise
Florida and onto Eastern Caribbean.
Joe based on your
I have a Delta 22lb fast set that I would like to keep on the bow roller on
my 32 occasionally. Last year I rigged up something with carabiners and
nylon webbing that was not particularly elegant or secure. I have
purchased 2 different anchor tensioners that I have not have the courage to
Dave,
I installed Garmin's GHP12 sailboat under cockpit autopilot with a Jefa linear
drive. Sounds as though I faced similar installation issues as you encountered.
I used the Edson tiller arm on the rudder post and the drive is bolted to a
solid wood mounting pad on the hull, port side. The
Wondering if anyone has modified their CC 24 to have a single lifting point
from the the keel bolts. The Ranger 23 next to me has had this modification
done. Would work much better with my club lift and trailer than straps.
Also, anyone have a pic of their CC 24 bilge? Just want to see if
Joe is correct about the mounting having to be really solid. A new Beneteau 40
something arrived in Halifax with a non-functioning autohelm. I found the ram
had torn right out of the 3/4 bulkhead to which it had been bolted with no
backing board leaving a neat square hole. Messy.
Rich Knowles
I would go hydraulic if you haven't already bought the equipment. Do check and
make sure the max current the core can supply is enough for whatever drive you
pick. This is another area not to go right to the limit on. Take the max
pounds thing though as a guess. A *lot* depends on how hard the
Thank you Joe.have not bought the equipmentso will take your advice and
go with the hydraulic.so appreciate your reply
Lloyd Lippe
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From: Della Barba, Joe
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List
How do you feather a max-prop?
A friend of mine says he:
1.. While motoring forward at 3 knots, shuts off the motor
2.. Places the transmission into reverse to feather the prop
That’s it, that’s what he does. He leaves the transmission in reverse.
I do the following:
1.. While motoring
I use the same shut down procedure (suggested by Max prop) and leave the
transmission in reverse.
Jack Fitzgerald
CC 39TM
HONEY
US12788
In a message dated 3/26/2013 2:02:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tj...@comcast.net writes:
How do you feather a max-prop?
A friend of mine says
Terry,
We had a similar discussion last year. Do you have a Yanmar? I put mine
in reverse, then neutral, but either is acceptable according to Yanmar so
long as you have a folding/feathering prop. The shaft should not rotate
regardless.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM,
Lloyd -- from a previous life as an installer, I can still source electronics
at pretty good prices; for instance, I can get the Raymarine E12199 SmartPilot
X-30 Corepack for under $1900, and the E22166 P70 Autopilot Control Head for
under $450. Shop around and check pricing; if you'd like to
I have a Yanmar...T
From: Joel Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Feathering a Max-prop
Terry,
We had a similar discussion last year. Do you have a Yanmar? I put mine in
reverse, then neutral, but either is acceptable according
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On Calypso with its Perkins 4-108 coupled to a 71 series Borg-Warner Velvet
Drive reduction gear we mostly do 1. 2., but sometimes 3.
With our Velvet Drive reduction gear, the MAX prop feathering process needs the
engine running to provide the hydraulic pressure to brake the shaft (hydraulic
You're killing me… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote:
Fred,
Come to Annapolis Sunday. Temps in the 50s, southerly winds 8-10. I plan to
shove off
Can we label the subject for the Rendezvous' NE or Chesapeake Bay please. It
might get confusing out there.
Thanks
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
From: rickbr...@earthlink.net
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:46:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 2013
Also note we will have cruising entries for anyone that wants to just show up
at CRYC without being in the race :)
Joe Della Barba
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Risch
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:00 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 2013
Al.
I have a 25 lb CQR anchor and put it in position on the standard 32 roller
and push the anchor pin through a hole in the anchor which was already there
and it doesn't go anywhere. This greatly simplifies anchoring as the
hardest part for me is to get it out of the anchor locker and past
Whether mechanical or hydraulic, the drive is powered by a reversing electrical
motor in most small boat drives. When the size increases, a single continuously
running electro/hydraulic pump is used, and the hydraulic fluid flow is
reversed using solenoid activated valves. Either way, any of
Or come to North Carolina. 63 and sunny, 6-8 kt winds on Saturday. 68 on
Sunday. Southwest is cheap to Raleigh, We'll have brunch at the club and
then sail. I've just introduced my Admiral to Pain Killers, so there will be
refreshments (though I use Cruzan Black Strap instead of Pusser's).
So many invites, so little time… :^) A nice problem to have -- thanks to
all!
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
Or come to North Carolina. 63 and sunny,
Won’t keeping the transmission in neutral cause the prop to rotate (as it is
not ‘connected’ to the engine and thereby increasing the chance of a prop shaft
wrap?
Neil
FoxFire, CC32
Worton Creek, MD
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin
DeYoung
So I sent my sails in for some sail care with North and they phoned me to tell
me that they recommend a new headsail, that the old one isn't worth fixing and
that if I wanted to fix it it'll still be a terrible sail and $200 to fix.
Ok, send me a quote I says.
The quote I got, for my CC 32, is
On Calypso I use a small piece of line and tie the anchor (65lb CQR) in place
for most PNW waters. I run the line from the lifting eye back along the
shank/chain then to a bow cleat. Calypso's anchor roller configuration limits
side to side motion of the anchor (in normal weather) and the
Steve
Check Rolly Tasker if you are looking for a sail made offshore. Radial
sails have smaller panels. In theory they last longer. Let them flog
and they all turn to crap.
Joel
On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote:
So I sent my sails in for some sail care
Steven,
Thats what I paid for a local reputable loft to, stand on my boat and measure,
build and install.
Rolly Tasker gave me a price of like $1650
Danny
Lolita
1973 Viking 33
Westport Point, MA
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From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com
To:
Sorry, David. Didn't mean to cause confusion.
I am planning my schedule so I can be at both events, so I'm aware there are
two. But I was replying to a message and didn't think to change the subject
line.
Rick Brass
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
We installed and used the Digital Yacht AIS prior to Route St. Pierre
race this year. It installed easily and worked.
Almost 56 hours of continuous use to St. Pierre, and I'm guessing about
equal on the way back. Came in pretty
handy when we had 5 comercial vessels going in a few different
I will have to get the details.
Just to be clear - I am the PRO for the one design dinghy racing we are having.
The MRSA (Magothy River Sailing Association) is starting the race over. I'll
have to get with them and find out for you.
Joe Della Barba
From: CnC-List
Say, Joe, when are the NOR and registration for the CRYC event going to be
available on line? And what can we do about a PHRF rating for Imzadi?
I recently applied for an updated NC-PHRF rating, and I could supply that.
I'm told that NC-PHRF base ratings are generally Chessie PHRF minus 3
North direct gave me a price of $2150
-- Original Message --
From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Sail Quote - am I delusional?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:42:07 -0400
So I sent my sails in for some sail care with North and they
Steve:
A new 135%, 8.3 oz. Dacron cross cut for the roller furler from Doyle in
2009 cost me $2,400 plus tax. North here wanted $3,200 for the
comparable sail. FYI
Bob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2013/03/26 5:42 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
So I sent my sails in for some sail
Guy I sail with has just ordered his 2nd sail from Evolution Sails out of Toronto. He also got quotes from UK Halsey and North. Both were more expensive than Evolution and he said the service was much better - ie: returned his calls.Evolution are ex Quantum sailmakers.Sam SalterCC 26
Yes, I was early into that discussion. Somebody needs to get down there and
keep Wal in line… :^) … or at least help him drink his tequila.
I just did a Google search for Landfall 39 For Sale Mexico and didn't come up
with anything. The Yachtworld listing is gone.
Fred Street --
Hi Jake ,
Just checked the Raymarine ST4000plus manual on Stu's website under service
manuals and see they reccommend:
Fluxgate sensor:
1) to minimize gimbal distrurbances be positioned as near as possible to the
pitch and roll center of the boat.
2) positioned between .3 to .5 length of
Fred
I had the Admiral call Defender today and order the Si Tex transceiver and
splitter. First time shopping at Defender and it looks like it won’t be the
last as they even honoured their weekend price (usual disclaimers).
Mike
S/V Persuasion
CC 37 Keel/CB
Long Sault
From: Frederick G
Joel,
I have my KVH fluxgate at the base of the mast (just to port of it). The
center of the boat has less motion. For motoring in flat seas, it shouldn't
make a difference.
I will try calibrating it again this spring. All the wiring it clean and
tight, but worth rechecking too.
Jake,
Sorry, thought you said it was in the quarterberth. Any chance the bilge
pump is coming on and screwing it up? I can't think of anything else close
unless you have an electric head.
Joel
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote:
Joel,
Chuck,
I can try moving the sensor. I think it has plenty of wire still attached to
it. The current position easily meets #3 and 4 below. 1 and 2 only matter if
pitch, roll, and yaw become an issue. Motoring in flat calm conditions
shouldn’t bring these into play. Oh well, one more
Thanks Joel; The Eastern CT 35-3 rating now matches Chesapeake at 123! The
handicap panel (about 10 people) agreed that we would hold our own upwind
at 117, with the deep keel being the primary advantage, but lower SA/D, D/L
numbers to comparable boats would hurt downwind and particularly
Tim,
That's great! Hope there is room on the mantle for the hardware!
Joel
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Joel; The Eastern CT 35-3 rating now matches Chesapeake at 123! The
handicap panel (about 10 people) agreed that we would
Jake,
I hope you find a better place for the sensor and your system works better.
Let us know if it does or doesn't? It may help others.
I have a friend with an older Raymarine autopilot and he claims his makes a 90
degree turn off of Margate, similar to yours.
I have never witnessed the
This may mean something?
My KVH Sailcomp fluxgate compass sensor is mounted forward in a starboard
closet ahead of mast, on a bulkhead looking aft at about knee level.
My Raymarine fluxgate compass sensor is mounted in a port side pilot berth,
looking forward at shoulder level, higher plane
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