Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread RPH via CnC-List
Update: Tonight I removed the sound insulation from the sides of the engine compartment. Let me tell you - it was a dirty mess. Surprisingly, it is possible for a substance to be both dusty and oily at the same time. On the bright side, after removing the old, crumbling insulation I was able to

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
Soundproofing? http://www.silentrunning.us/ http://www.silentrunning.us/Professional_Boat_Builder_SR_Article.pdf Bill Bina On 8/27/2014 2:42 AM, RPH via CnC-List wrote: Update: Tonight I removed the sound insulation

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread John Russo via CnC-List
Robert, If you ever do decide to install new insulation I can share a few tricks to make it easier as I re-insulated the compartment in my CC 32 last year. I used material purchased from Defender which is reflective containing foam and rubber and lead which is impossible to drill holes

Stus-List East River trip

2014-08-27 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Planning a trip down to Jersey City in a few weeks. I've probably done the run from LI Sound to Jersey 20 times - but not in the past 8 years. Anyone have current information on security zones, etc? John Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided

Re: Stus-List East River trip

2014-08-27 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
None that I've encountered. Even around the bridges they seem to have relaxed. Of course by LGA they are still a bit fussy. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Aug 27, 2014, at

Re: Stus-List CNC 115 Shorthanded Sailers

2014-08-27 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Thanks Rick Let me elaborate a bit. First of all the Frers 33 is a Carroll Marine built German Frers designed performance boat that has a decent interior. Of the Carroll built boats the Frers line was the only one I am aware of that had the “cruiser” side of the racing. The rest were

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
FWIW – Gluing is not all that. I used the same stuff and the glue for the job isn’t worth the price of it. I ended up having to screw it in using short screws and fender washers… Neil FoxFire – CC32 Worton Creek, MD From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
As well as or instead of fender washers, consider wooden battens to hold the foam in place. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: FWIW – Gluing is not all that. I used the same stuff and the glue for the job isn’t

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The inboard side and ceiling were uninsulated on mine and when I re-did it I left them uninsulated. I used a sound down kit from jamestown distributing. I cut and dry fit the foam panels and used the included mylar tape to seal the raw edges. The kit came with tack down pins. They are aluminum

Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Bev Parslow via CnC-List
Ready to start varnishing but how can I get rid of the accumulated black of old varnish, dirt etc around the teak on the fibre glass. I am trying to get a clean edge. Can I use paint stripper? Will it hurt the fibre glass?___ This List is provided by

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Have you tried a good sharp scraper? -- Original Message -- From: Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List varnishing Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:46:20 -0700 Ready to start varnishing but how can I get rid of

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Try regular laundry bleach first. Then you may have to carefully work with a sharp chisel to get the old varnish off. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ready to start varnishing but how can I get rid of the

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mr. Clean Magic Erasers are pretty amazing. Try that first. You might also try smith's clear penetrating epoxy to seal the wood before varnishing. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 27, 2014 10:46 AM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ready to start

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Noxudol makes a sound-deadening paint similar to Silent Running but much cheaper. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 27 August 2014 06:50, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The inboard side and ceiling were uninsulated on mine and when I re-did it I

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
You mean actually on the deck fiberglass, as in stuff that leaked under the masking tape because it's nearly impossible to get a good seal on textured non-skid? The citrus based strippers won't hurt fiberglass. Under *no* circumstance would I recommend a strong stripper like Jabsco. It will

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Bev, I've had excellent results using a spray bottle with 50% clear vinegar water. The black stuff comes off with a soft brush. Scrub perpendicular to the grain. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
I also used ( pure ) vinegar to clean my teck. For the varnish on the gelcoat, I would use Interlux 299E , was good to remove antifouling without harm to the gelcoat ( but smallest is a quart ) Sylvain CC27MkIII From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread David via CnC-List
Curious...is all the effort worth it? David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:13:12 -0700 To: muckl...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Noxudol makes a sound-deadening

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Prime Interest via CnC-List
Some years ago while looking at Silent Running it looked like it was manufactured by the same folks as QuietCoat ( see http://www.quietrock.com/quietcoat ) which was a quarter of the cost and you could special order it from Home Depot. They don't seem to carry it any more. Also, it only came in

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Mother Nature is taking care of this problem for me - At my current rate of hearing loss, I figure in a few years my engine will be just a whisper! Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
I thought CC owners only use their engines to get in and out of docks. Jerry. CC 27v JJ Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2014, at 3:00 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curious...is all the effort worth it? David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date:

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
As opposed to certain Beneteaus and Hunters which are only USED at the dock… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 27, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I thought CC owners only use their engines to

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Well when work starts on Monday and the Bay looks like a mirror, the button must be pushed ☹ On my boat the sound insulation did not much. Not sure I would buy it again. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber via

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Under the watchful and at times frightened eyes of my neighbors, I have been routinely sailing into the slip without turning on the good 2QM. Phase II: Learn how to get out of the slip under sail... Cheers, Aaron R. 1979 30-MK1 Annapolis, MD On Aug 27, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Jerome Tauber via

Re: Stus-List varnishing

2014-08-27 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Gentle heating with a heat gun will soften old varnish and paint making it easier to remove with the previously mentioned methods. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bev

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Russ Melody via CnC-List
Hi Jim, Is this available at Industrial Plastics? Cheers, Russ Sweet 35-1 At 11:13 AM 27/08/2014, you wrote: Noxudol makes a sound-deadening paint similar to Silent Running but much cheaper. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 27 August 2014 06:50, Josh

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
In the olden days, when I was getting my skipper’s certificate, we had to do all the manoeuvres, including getting in and out of the slip, without the use of the engine (and then again using it). But that art is gone. Now, if I tried to dock under sail there would be a crowd with pitchforks

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Funny, I sailed a Catalina 25 into port on a broad reach. Lots of maneuverability! While still in the fareway a little marina girl came promptly running out telling us we couldn't sail in the marina. No pitchfork though. Definitely a lost art. Josh On Aug 27, 2014 10:41 PM, Marek Dziedzic via

Stus-List Sailing in - was Re: Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?

2014-08-27 Thread M Bod via CnC-List
I couldn't imagine it where I am now - Deep Cove is at the end of a 1km long narrow high sided channel, wind funnels down its length. Short tacking would be and understatement at 100-200ft from shore to shore. Maybe some day I'll gain the confidence. Remember back to my sailing school days. A

Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?

2014-08-27 Thread Russ Melody via CnC-List
In my olden days as a member of the Yacht Club's Executive Committee, business was brought forth to propose that sailboats must use engines in the marina (or something to that effect). I pointed out that engines are auxiliary power on sailboats and if we are to endorse this business I will