Stus-List Fuel

2014-12-09 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
I was reading an article that made reference to 'marine diesel fuel' versus 'diesel fuel' . The article did not go into detail as to whether or not there is actually a difference between the two. I always thought that a 'diesel engine' whether marine or otherwise burned the same fuel Was thi

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2014-12-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Taxes...and in some jurisdictions sulfur content. You are correct in that generally a pump on the road will work fine with your boat. Watch out using fuel from the marina in you car because if it was un-taxed and dyed red then it will stain your tank an make you subject to fines if found out (unl

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2014-12-09 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
I have repowered with Westerbeke 40 4-108 3 years ago. Since then, I've been using exclusively gas station diesel that I get from jerry cans. Simply because it's cheaper. So far I have not had any signs of issues. Winterizing procedure involves adding diesel stabilizer and replacing both fuel fil

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2014-12-09 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Petar, In Annapolis the price is about the same whether I go to the dock or the station. My local marina has a brand new above ground tank, so I'm reasonably comfortable buying fuel there. The nearby gas stations probably don't sell a huge amount of diesel. A neighbor who was in the oil industr

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2014-12-09 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
The diesel you get at a marina almost is always the same (tax-wise) as what you get at gas stations. I have never seen it to be otherwise. We pay over-the-road taxes on it and it contains the correct dyes. For those of you with experience in power yachting, we used to be able to document our marina

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2014-12-09 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Here we had a product called marine gas oil or various other names that was not diesel but could be used in diesel engines. There was a price savings. However, some found it more susceptible to algae growth. Our Corps patrol boat developed a serious problem with algae and we stopped using it.

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2014-12-09 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Not sure what the article Rob was reading was about, but I was in the merchant navy (British) when I first left school, and we burned what was (...and still is) called bunker fuel, in our large marine diesels. It was thicker and dirtier, if I remember correctly, than the diesel you buy at gas st

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2014-12-09 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Bunker is like a #6 or 7 fuel oil and IIRC so thick it has to be heated to flow. We used it to power the boiler in our steam driven dredge. I didn't know diesel engines could use it. I'm betting none of ours can. If we could, the soot build-up would be horrendous. Ron Wild Cheri --

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2014-12-09 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
The bunker oil (bunker fuel) cannot be easily mistaken for the diesel fuel we use in our diesel engines. To start with, at ambient temperatures, it is more like soft butter than liquid. You have to heat it up a bit (steam?) to make it flow. Marek -Original Message- From: Sam Salter v

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2014-12-09 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Marinas often sell both gas and diesel that have been specifically formulated for marine use. They have additives that address conditions that differ from conditions on roads and highways. One major brand of this "marine" fuel is Valvtect. Is it necessary? Probably not. Is it beneficial? Could

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2014-12-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Many of the fuel docks I use supply ValvTect fuel. Whether it's better or not, I don't know. I use jerry cans to fuel the boat when in home port. As a rule, I try to use Chevron or Texaco fuels in the boat. I found years ago that many other brands gummed up the fuel injectors in my old Suburban

Re: Stus-List C&C 33-I Spreaders?

2014-12-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I would just weld the cracks, I had a few little ones on mine, welded them up 10 years ago and no problems since . . . Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Paine via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 6:26 PM To: cnc-list@cn

Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves replacement

2014-12-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I replaced my main halyard sheave around 5 years ago with UV Stabilized Black UHMW Poly. I had several made up, thinking I would also do my jib sheaves soon. Well, they were bigger! If anyone is interested I would like to sell them, probably 5 bucks each. They are bored to accept a pair of commonly

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2014-12-09 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Rob, Marina fuel (in theory) should be cheaper because it doesn't include road taxes. In actuality, it is usually about the same price as at the filling station on the corner. The product is the same, except fuel without road taxes is died red. I can buy off-road diesel at a local station much

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2014-12-09 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Dennis, My Suburban is pretty easy going when it comes to fuel. Even with an optical sensor in the injection pump, I run ULSD and biodiesel a lot without problems. After Thanksgiving I have four gallons of peanut oil which will be slowly run through the Suburban as well. That way I can re

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2014-12-09 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I also use the 5 gal gerry can method. I add Seafoam once in a while. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Robert Abbott" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:47:26 PM

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2014-12-09 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
FYI, Diesel fuel at an Exxon in Pasadena was $3.05 this past weekend. I doubt a marina can compete w that. Chuck - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Petar Horvatic" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:01:11 AM Subject: Re: Stu

Stus-List Fuel

2014-12-09 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Thanks everyoneI knew diesel fuel was dyed and taxed for different intended uses.fishers, farmers, truckers, the rest of us etc. Jake, my diesel fuel use involves only my Yanmar 2GMF in mainly double digit C temps so any ' winterized northern diesel' should not matter to me. I heard t

Re: Stus-List C&C 33-I Spreaders?

2014-12-09 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Why are so many former owners idiots? What is it with these people? I assume the folks who have bought my boats have exactly the same questions. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 9 December 2014 at 15:20, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I would