West Marine has a product called Salt Away. I used it but the ultimate cause
of the problem was elsewhere so I cannot attest to its effcacy.
David F. Risch
1981 40
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:43:37 -0500
To: aserrat...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re:
In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 -
506
and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately
Mike
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Sent:
Ok, so I sent our local MP a message with a plea to put this process on hold,
and a link to the article, but I don't hold out much hope. All he ever does is
tell us how much we should appreciate what the Conservative party is doing for
us. Hail the dear leader, etc.
Steve Thomas
Port Stanley,
So far not so good though he has to give time to the Far 280.
PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division
PHRF 1
1.
GBR 007
Red
Farr 280
The Canadian Yachting magazine article on the photoalbum says more than
800 CC 30-1's were built - the second highest production number (more
than 1,000 27's).
Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 30-1 (#602)
Siskiwit Bay Marina
Lake Superior
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Rob, is there anything we can do as an organization? Obviously, a large
portion of us are south of the border, but we want to see the museum be
successful in this as well as our Canadian brethren; what would you recommend?
Richard
1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
Richard N. Bush
2950
On my new cabinets I've use Watco Danish Teak Oil ( which my friend who does
wooden boat restoration says is the very best you can buy) and one or two coats
on the new teak exactly matches the old factory. All the teak on my 38 mkII is
oiled, not stained and varnished.
I have been using
LMPHRF, our local handicap governing body, is making adjustments to the
credit and penalties of handicaps for displacement hull boats that fly
asyms, with and without the addition of sprits.
I'm interested in what other regions are using for regs, amount of
participation, and observations of
Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a J-80 (and on my 30-1), and I cannot
imagine that the new 30 will ever be a 'legend'. Our boats are excellent
all-purpose boats - race, cruise, camp, sturdy, etc. The new 30 may have 100
takers in a sea of similar one-design sportboats. We have over 600 of
I hate racing under a rating system. That being said, I'm not sure the
skipper of the boat is terribly experienced, and he is racing against some
very good teams.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a
Peat, This Email below is from my FH in NE but the implementation of the rule
was delayed for public comment from our members. Essentially the new matrix
adds three seconds to my old rating (IMX40) with the same configuration. There
was an extensive study done that revealed asymmetrical
Thanks folks. Over 800 is amazing especially given the time frame.
The article was right on. The boat is beautiful, sails well, and hard to make
one's time in light air. I've replaced the mast step twice; the second time
only because I didn't do a good job the first time. And I've now found
I was wondering where my original CC 30' is now. I purchased her in
1975, brand new, from Havre de Grace Marina in Maryland. What a beauty,
chocolate brown hull with a cameo deck. It had the Atomic 4 engine
that ran like a dream. I had never sailed in my life when I purchased
her and Arvid,
If you can provide the HIN, we can see if she is now documented, and
perhaps her location.
Bill Bina
On 1/20/2015 12:22 PM, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List wrote:
I was wondering where my original CC 30' is now. I purchased her in
1975, brand new, from Havre de Grace Marina in Maryland. What a
Not saying the CC 30 will not do well - just that there are only enough
racers with $$$ to support so many of these classes. Also note the Farr 30
seems to be embarrassing the newer Farr down at Key West. The CC seems to
be rated much faster than it is on the water so far, which won't make for
I have also found that Watco Danish Oil Cherry is an exact match for the
original on my 1990 34+. They may have used something else earlier as mine
seems to have more of a reddish hue than I have seen on other older CCs.
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Joe
The Farr 30 has stuck around a long time and is still going strong. You never
know how these things will play out. One thing is that they have to make a lot
of them if they are to stick - like J70
From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf
Hi Richard,
I'm not sure how effective it might be, but dropping a quick email to the
Mayor and the seven councillors who voted against the motion to acquire the
property from the Federal government upon which the museum sits would be
greatly appreciated. I think it is important to remind them
It's quite possible that many layers of teak oil can impart that reddish
hue, or like David says, cherry flavoured oil. The older boats do seem to
have darker teak than the later ones, whether because of age or because the
process was changed as tastes went away from the teak cave look.
I want to
Joel,
I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and
PHRF racing has become a distant memory. While seeing the latest advances is
interesting, I’m finding it’s not worth it.
I do enjoy Cruising World for the articles and the advertising for gear
and
I get a bunch ...
Cruising World and Blue Water sailing for destinations and gear info
Yachting World on my iPad for dreaming
And Gam, a local Canadian magazine for fun Helps the owner/editor is a
friend (still pay though)
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Joel Aronson via
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Please note - I do not have the in-cockpit control
I used to get many magazines. Good Old Boat is the only one that has stayed.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 20 January 2015 at 10:21, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Joel,
I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF
I get Sail (like the handy hints and upgrade projects and the 'what we did
right/wrong' articles) and Sailing World (the racing rules discussions and
diagrams are good learning tools).
Gary
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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent:
Thanks Edd,
I'm glad to see a recommendation for Good Old Boat in the very first
reply! ;-)
Rob
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Joel,
I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF
racing has become a
I emailed my MP Dean Allison.
Not holding my breath, but every little bit of showing an interest in the
actual matter might help.
Marek Fluder
Hamilton
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Harry,
Pdfs of all drawings can be obtained from
Mine is number 593 and Curtis has a low 600 number.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Anyone know
I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I
don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing
World wants back. It is worth the money?
Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising?
--
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
301 541 8551
By the way, hull number 1 is still sailing on the Chesapeake.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List
To: Hoyt, Mike ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
The Canadian Yachting magazine
I don't know about flushing the engine with fresh water (I'm in brackish water
- mid Chesapeake) but I plan on putting a T valve in my water intake before
next splash so I can easily hook up a hose to ingest anti-freeze. The intake
hose seems to get bonded to the thru-hull and I'm tired of
By the pictures it looks like that one was a 29 Mk1.
Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 CC 25 #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
via CnC-List
Sent: January-20-15 15:48
To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count?
Gary
30-1
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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week:
I have a Practical Sailor collection from 1987 to 2013, at that point I
figured they had jumped the shark and stopped subscribing. Ever since the
departure of Dan Spurr and others, PS seemed to lose a bit of focus and
started evaluating products based on occasion on some weird amateurish
tests. I
In print:
Being a technology / analytical kind of guy I'm a huge Sailing World fan
and disagree with the negative comments. They have in depth racing
technical / tactical and rules discussions that alone are worth the price
of admission. I concede that some of the in-depth stuff reads like
Hi Ryan,
Locally they gave an adjustment to furlers, and gave the same credit to anyone
w a furler, above deck, under deck, Melges, J-105, etc. And many people kept
the credit even when they used a sail that didn't furl.
Does Scapa have a sprit? How much did they adjust your handicap?
Chuck
All of my EDPM port gaskets have held up like new in the sun down here.
You can find a variety of shapes and sizes at McMaster-Carr
www.mcmaster.com
Wal
you wrote:
Before I left the boat I read about replacing the gaskets. In the post someone
had linked to a supplier that produces the
The big square ones do a pretty good job of scraping the keel.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 20 January 2015 at 12:51, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
The zinc won't stop build-up.
Joel
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Yours is hull number 671, built in 1981 (don't know the month, but I think it
is May). Mine is ZZC 30 593 M 80 B. So, it looks like they made 77 boats in
little more than a year.
Gary
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From: Curtis via CnC-List
To: Hoyt, Mike ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent:
Here's an explanation of the E
http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm
Here's another: http://www.hinsearchplus.com/hs_userguide.aspx
Ken H
On 20 January 2015 at 17:21, Gary Nylander via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Yours is hull number 671, built in 1981 (don't know the
That fire is sad. What could cause that, electrical fault, Winter heaters?
Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
- Original Message -
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday,
ZCC is CC Yachts..NOTL plant I think
30 is model
671 is hull number
M81 is 81 model
E is the keel laid down (production started) in December 1980 (boat model
years start in September, like cars, so boats started in August of a given
year (A) are the next model year)
Rick Brass
I get Watco Teak oil from Home Depot or Lowes. It seems to be very consistent
and thinner than typical marine products. One pint can has served me well for
many years. I wipe down all the interior wood each spring with Pinesol in a
handspray bottle and let it dry. (strategy is to kill any mold
Yup. Not a 30-2 luckily! They are not as ubiquitous as the 30.
(Fire looks like an electrical heater. Exactly why many yards forbid them.)
KD
30-2
PDX
On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 6:03:52 PM Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
That fire is sad. What could cause that, electrical fault,
Mike,
Great pics, Inspirational! Thanks.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
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From: Mike via CnC-List Hoyt cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:10:47 AM
I'm looking for feedback about the sailing characteristics of the CC 110's
shoal draft version. It has a pretty generous sail area to displacement ratio.
I often sail solo or short hand with one other crew member and was wondering
what size headsail would be appropriate for winds in the 15-20
That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding gate in the transom), I'd say
the ID as a 29-1 is correct.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 20 January 2015 at 12:20, Gary Nylander via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count?
Gary
30-1
I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I
have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks
pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if
they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on
You could always upload to Youtube/Vimeo or similar and link to here.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 20 January 2015 at 12:39, Dan Utinske via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I
have since
Explain the cloud. If you use a hard paint vs an ablative can you scrub then?
From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Dan Utinske via
CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: January 20, 2015 4:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List
The zinc won't stop build-up.
Joel
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Explain the cloud. If you use a hard paint vs an ablative can you scrub
then?
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*From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on
At least when I was working with them, Karen Jerry of Good Old Boat had a
30mkI, as well as a Mega that they wanted to trailer around. And Michael
Facius on this list, who is the publisher, also had a 30mkI.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in
Is that because they featured your gorgeous boat on the cover, David?
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor.
David F. Risch
1981 40
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Ahhh...noreally...uh...seriously...absolutely not...
And that would be your gorgeous boat as well.
David F. Risch
1981 40
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines
To: davidrisc...@msn.com;
ZZC-30-671-M81- E
What do they mean?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls
1 - 506
and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately
Mike
According to the latest issue, they all still own their good old CC's.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 20 January 2015 at 11:20, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
At least when I was working with them, Karen Jerry of *Good Old Boat* had
a
Well, since we’re plugging sailing magazines we’re featured in, LI Sound
sailing enthusiasts should subscribe to Windcheck Magazine.
From September 2008: http://www.trial.com/images/blog/windcheck.pdf
http://www.trial.com/images/blog/windcheck.pdf
Though seriously, Practical Sailor is a must
Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups
about the boats we all know
From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via
CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: January 20, 2015 2:34 PM
To:
Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor.
David F. Risch
1981 40
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
To: john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Good Old Boat featured a CC
So right Gary.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
ZZC-30-671-M81- E
What do they mean?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down
Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week:
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story
The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a
check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds,
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