Re: Stus-List Electrical Advice

2019-08-27 Thread Wade Glew via CnC-List
So a little update re the electrical issues on Oh Boy. As suggested by Josh, I bought and figured out (mostly) how to use a multimeter. I measure (no load and rested) my starter battery (Batt 2) at 12.7 V. Each of the four Trojans in Batt1 bank measured 6.41V. I was a little gun shy to start ta

Re: Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
I made templates myself from 1/4" material to match my portlights and had a local company, Annapolis Marine Plastics replicate them. I chose the darkest color and the new pieces look better than new. Haven't mounted them yet, but I think dark is the way to go. Chuck S > On August 27, 2019 at

Re: Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
The companionway hatch and a cabin "moon roof" on our boat are thicker, maybe 3/8", but I would like it to be double that, like 3/4" so people could stand on it safely. I'm looking into replacing with 1/2" acrylic and adding some reinforcement ribs. Chuck S, Resolute, 1990 C&C 34R, Maryland

Re: Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Cast acrylic from Laird Plastics in RI. Give them the old ones and they will replicate. From: CnC-List on behalf of Morgan Ellis via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:21:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Morgan Ellis Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 por

Re: Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread Morgan Ellis via CnC-List
Hi Dave, I used 6mm acrylic with a light bronze tint when I did mine this spring and it matched the original perfectly. It is my understanding that the UV and scratch resistant polycarbonate get those added properties from coatings applied to the surface and that these coatings don't last that long

Re: Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
I measured my portlights as 1/4" thick. I think I bought acrylic (what the company uses on all the are boats) and had them round the outside edge and buff it smooth to look like glass. Chuck S > On August 27, 2019 at 9:49 PM Dave via CnC-List wrote: > > > Evening all - have searched the ar

Stus-List 33-2 portlight material

2019-08-27 Thread Dave via CnC-List
Evening all - have searched the archives and have found a great deal of info on adhesives and the replacement process, however not a lot on the material. I understand the windows are acrylic (plexiglass) can anyone please confirm the thickness? (Mine are leaking, but still installed) I know th

Re: Stus-List too many wires for in-pedestal? Is that why people network?

2019-08-27 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I recently completed an autopilot installation and in the process I run several wires through the 1” binnacle guard. I could believe it initially, but I was able to run 4 cables without too much problem through one leg of the guard. These cables were Garmin chartplotter cable, Garmin depth, Seat

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Wow what a story. One of the appeals of the next gen was the solid glass (mostly) hull, and this had a lot of bearing on my decision to purchase the ‘85 33-2. It was well looked after and the hull and decks are stiff and solid as new. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2019

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
No. Now understand that I'm not saying 100-150 is bad. I'm just not in agreement that it is undoubtedly a consolation. IMO The way the surveyor wrote up the anchor locker gave credibility to his knowledge and skills. If he had no comments about the deck then that would be a consolation. It is

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
Would your opinion change based on the fact that the boat's been on the hard for over a year? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:42 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with y

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The deck is a different thickness and layup so by themselves numbers of 100-150 are just as irrelevant. Now if the entire deck read 100-150 with NO peaks around deck penetrations then that would be consoling information. Then again if the wide open flat portions consistently read 100 but the pene

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
As a consulation the deck was completely dry with readings between 100 and 150! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:37 PM, Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contrib

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
Thanks Josh.  Figured as much.   They're selling for such a low price that I think it is reflected.   Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:33 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You can't make anything of it. The meter gives a comparison to the areas nearby. You could ask the seller to perform the recommended temporary repair. If there is any moisture you will certainly find it, and rotted wood. Josh On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 7:16 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List < cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
The survey suggested the bottom was wet (199 and anove) with readings from 250 to 450.    Not sure what to make of this in a boat that is almost 35 years old. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:33 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
From: "Matthew L. Wolford" To: "Neil E. Andersen" Subject: Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:18 PM That’s true, Neil. Metal, for example, will set off a moisture meter. If a staple was left on a piece of balsa coring during construction, for instance, this wi

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I would still suggest that he did not find delamination but rather wet core. You may be able to find the source of the moisture intrusion if you look on the inside and above the indicated area. There is likely a water tank in the vicinity of the area below the anchor locker floor. This tank coul

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
FYI Survey:  EXTERIOR HULL: [B1] The topsides and bottom were sounded with a hammer and I found de-laminated areas of approximately three square feet on the port side, four square feet on the starboard side both below and above the water line at the stem. This de-lamination apparently comes from

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
There's no visible signs.  He was taking moisture readings in the 200 to 225 range and registered delamination based on the hammer test.  The boat well priced so it doesn't change much for me. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:42 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote

Re: Stus-List too many wires for in-pedestal? Is that why people network?

2019-08-27 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
For all the data transfers consider using 20 AWG shielded signal wire with 8 conductors. Search for "20/8 marine signal cable" or "22/8 marine signal cable". If your binnacle light is LED, you could probably use a pair of the 20 AWG for that also. https://www.amazon.com/AWG-Conductor-Signal-Mari

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Water freezes in winter here in Nova Scotia: doesn’t matter if it’s trapped in balsa or not still freezes and with freezing expands volume by 10 percent with a force that is very hard to constrain. That can’t be a good thing year after year if wet balsa is in a polymeric hull. If i am wrong please

Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I would second guess the surveyor. At least dig a little deeper and determine what his indicators are. Moisture meters are broad go/no-go tests that help focus one's attention. They can easily indicate the presence of moisture as a result of water in the bilge, or even places where a wet rope wa

Re: Stus-List too many wires for in-pedestal? Is that why people network?

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
It sounds to me like you are referring to the pedestal guard when you talk about various sides. If so, yes networking can reduce the number wires required. Especially wireless networking. Another option is to upgrade the size of the guard. I recently installed a 9" b&g zeus 3 in a navpod and t

Re: Stus-List too many wires for in-pedestal? Is that why people network?

2019-08-27 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Do you have a pedestal guard? Lots more room for cabling there. When we installed ours on Firefly -C&C 27-III, we pre-wired for the future. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2019, at 3:53 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List > wrote: > > I'm trying to add a sirius satellite weather receiver to my ex

Stus-List too many wires for in-pedestal? Is that why people network?

2019-08-27 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
I'm trying to add a sirius satellite weather receiver to my existing Raymarine Es7 display, which is ram-mounted on top of the pedestal and has AIS fed from a down-below VHF receiver. (I managed to do that myself awhile back). So one side of the pedestal tube I filled very full with AIS cabling pl

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List
I defer to Rob on structural questions, but I have been told by good surveyors that it is not just what the moisture meter says, but a combination of three (3) factors; moisture meter, sounding and deformation. Just 1 of the 3 tell-tale items is not sufficient to indicate an issue. I just had a

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Seeing the boat out of the water can be useful as you may see blistering, a keel/hull joint separation, or damage. Check the alignment of keel and rudder and check the rudder for play. IIRC the 34 had some cored construction below the waterline as well as elsewhere, so worth a careful survey

Stus-List Landfall 35 delamination

2019-08-27 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
I’ve had no issues with delamination at the bow of my 1983 Landfall 35. When I bought the boat several years back, we discovered moisture on deck just around the anchor locker but nothing below. It is very easy for the anchor locker drain to become clogged with mud and debris, so it is best to

Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
I'm interested in the details of the 'problem' . . . . The ones I've seen have come from installation of thru-hulls where water got to the balsa surrounding it and then migrated from there . . . We bought a moisture meter at the plant and went about testing a lot of different boats - new and ol

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Steve, I have the original Yanmar in my 1982 C&C 37. Surface corrosion yes, and although RPM meter is off (reads3/5k less) I changed mixing elbow and she runs like a top ! Had a few small lenses of high moisture on deck mini stay and by base of wheel column But that was it and everything is fin

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List
I am currently looking at an 85 Landfall 35 the surveyor has found delamination in the bow above and below waterline, he says due to the construction and drainage of the anchor locker.  Anyone have this issue? Also some delamination at water line starboard midship. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androi

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Steve: I can speak to the balsa core issue. The 34 is cored below the waterline, and the boat should be hauled for a hull survey with a moisture meter. My 1978 34 had a problem and was repaired by a prior owner. My 1976 42 also has the same problem. Do not buy the boat until this issue

Stus-List Graphics

2019-08-27 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
BoatUS is having a Labor Day sale on lettering and graphics. 30% off till September 6. They did mine, and I am happy with the job they did. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your co

Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Steve, Your concern of moisture penetration and delamination is what a good surveyor is for. The engine is a different issue. Most surveyors will only check that the engine runs properly, at a good temperature and will optionally do an oil analysis (I would recommend you get that done). Mor

Stus-List 1981 C&C Inspection

2019-08-27 Thread Stephen McCarthy via CnC-List
I received very helpful feedback from members of this list when inquiring about the value of a 1981 34 foot C&C. I’m a bit of a luddite when it comes to managing listserves, so please forgive any repetition on my part. I live in Nova Scotia and am interested in the above model for sale at my loc

Re: Stus-List 19th of October Saint Michaels Maryland C&C Rendezvous

2019-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Thanks Joe. I actually expect that we should be able to chip you $25 each. Like I said, I'd have done it myself but just won't get back to St. Mike's over the next year. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 7:24 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I'll go a membership if we need o

Re: Stus-List 19th of October Saint Michaels Maryland C&C Rendezvous

2019-08-27 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I'll go a membership if we need one. I live close enough to use it. You all can buy me a drink or something :) Joe Coquina On 8/26/2019 5:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: OK thanks On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:35 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Le