Ted; I have a 1985 37 which is comparable to the 40 in displacement and
steering controls; I went with an under deck unit called Octopus 1212LAM12;
purchased from Defender; the unit is controlled by a Raymarine P70 autopilot;
which is matched with the chart plotter and wind/depth unit; I worked
Dont scrimp on install. Make sure it has a rudder indicator. When done
right its your new best friend.
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Marek,
Thank you for the responseI tension each wire split stay approx.
500 to 600 lbs. assuming the combined tension is not the actual sum of
the two on the rod. But if it is approx. 95% of the sum of the two,
then generally that is what I want without backstay tension. Some day I
wil
Ask him why there is a spider on just one side of the boat. Joe
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> On Apr 19, 2021, at 15:16, Bill Coleman via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Uh- oh Joe, the pressure is on!
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> < A friend is having her surveyed tomorrow.>
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> You are only a an hour or so away –
> And this
Uh- oh Joe, the pressure is on!
< A friend is having her surveyed tomorrow.>
You are only a an hour or so away –
And this one doesn’t seem to have running backs, which would be a deal killer
for me.
And the boat’s name is a little off-putting.. . . Have to run that past your
wife.
Thanks Bill, these "tail pieces" would be in a more or less vertical
section which would discharge almost directly overboard thus eliminating
the chance for water to collect and freeze. Though, freezing is something
I had not considered and will keep a keen awareness of.
Josh
On Mon, Apr 19, 202
A friend is having her surveyed tomorrow.
Joel
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:41 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> There is a centerboard 44 for sale in Annapolis. I can’t decide if the
> submarine hatch companionway system is cool or if it would drive me nuts.
>
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Only thing I can think of is freezing and cracking, which *probably* wouldn’t
be that big of a mess. Maybe PEX might work, it is a little more forgiving.
Having said that, I think most of my bilge pumps exit into fiberglass tubes
exiting the stern.
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA
I would worry WAY more about the below-the-waterline fittings than near deck
level bilge pump fittings.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 2:31 PM
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Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Pipe fittings for overboard dischar
Hey folks,
Without getting too deep into the details, I'm having a bit of difficulty
finding fittings to plumb my new bilge pumpS overboard. I've envisioned a
solution but it requires use of PVC and glued joints. This throws up some
red flags in my mind but I'm not really sure why or if it is ac
There is a centerboard 44 for sale in Annapolis. I can’t decide if the
submarine hatch companionway system is cool or if it would drive me nuts.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
co
Here's a boat tour vid shot about 3 months ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7cfMhKdzs
Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30 Mk1.
On 2021-04-13 7:34 p.m., Joel Delamirande via CnC-List wrote:
Nice boat
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 5:29 PM Dan via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-lis
The boat looks nice but she would be aground in my slip half the day ☹
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to
send contribution -- https://www.paypal.m
Yep. I was on the boat before it left Armdale for Caribbean. Looked
pretty good then, and I know
Dan's been doing more fixing along the way. You can find video's on
youtube under
"sailing balachandra".
Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30 Mk1.
On 2021-04-13 7:34 p.m., Joel Delam
You can send it to Raymarine for service.they can give you a quote for a
fix. I've use them every few years to fix my Wheel Pilot X5. They have a flat
fee repair.Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 Alegria #165Racine, WISent from my Verizon,
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Original message ---
1981 C&C34. Sorry, got lazy on the signature.
I believe the rods are 7/32 dia
I understand that the rods were made by NavTec, referred to as NAV R505
This is a cold drawn rod from Nitronic 50 (22-13-5)
Fu = 200,000 psi
7/32" dia = 0.0375 in^2
Breaking force = Fu x A = 7,500 lbs
Jeff Laman
1981 C
My ancient AutoHelm 4000 does a great job in calm weather and upwind. I have
used it in 40+ knots going upwind. It is hopeless going downwind in anything
more than light-medium air and if the waves are running it can hardly even
motor downwind.
I think the very latest wheel pilot has vastly bett
Yes, there you go -- pressure to gauge.
Thanks for making clear to all that psi and kpsi ( = 1000 psi) are NOT force,
but internal oil pressure.
This link is not for the series 6, however. My data sheet, which is on board
the boat right now, I believe indicated 1000 psi = 1000 lbs. If I remembe
Ok, I thought you meant the coated lifeline type. I've seen those plastic
covers on a few boats, and they should be fine provided they are removed
and the wire flushed every so often.
Your idea of measuring the rod aloft is a good one, although the estimate
you are using is probably close enough,
I had an under deck raymarine pilot on my 40. The linear drive worked like a
champ. Fast enough to drive in large quartering seas. I think I had the 6000
I have a refurbished raymarine linear drive on my Baltic 47 drives by a B&G
pilot. Works like a champ even offshore, including 1000 miles DDW f
Um, sorta. Yes, it is related but not 1:1. The gauge shows psi in the
cylinder. That is NOT pounds tension or pull on the backstay. You need to
take into account the pressure area of the piston. The pressure area of
the piston on a Navtec 10 series is 1.160 square inches. (Pressure area is
th
I am in need of someone to repair the brain of my st 6000 autopilot.
Any suggestions?
Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
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> On Apr 19, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Peter Kirkwood via CnC-List
> wrote:
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>
> Agree. Went with the hydraulic ram on my 38 and it is excellent and hasn’t
>
You just missed a listing on FleaBay for a nearly new B&G compass, Pilot
Control, and 12V hydraulics for $1600.
The ST4000+ worked like a charm on my 39, but the rudder and boat were nearly
perfectly balanced, so there was very little effort required of it.
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA
I am not sure the size boat we are talking about, but I think I would have
been happy to have a relief valve set for 3K. Seems anything over that and
you would be pulling the boat away from the front of your keel. I do like
SailTec, and that unit is a great piece.
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Eri
OK, who wants to throw babystay tension into the discussion of sail shape?
Joel
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> IIRC, Our boat has a -10 rod capable of 10,000# load. The owners manual
> states not to exceed 40% of rod s
Hi all,
IIRC, Our boat has a -10 rod capable of 10,000# load. The owners manual states
not to exceed 40% of rod strength on the backstay hydraulic ram so our setup
relieves around 3500 and we stay below that. We have a remote pump panel and
the relief is adjustable. I set it myself after I ha
Agree. Went with the hydraulic ram on my 38 and it is excellent and hasn’t
been overpowered yet in any conditions
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 11:35 AM Don Marlin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> My 40 had a wheel pilot when I bought it. (ST4000+ and the wheel ring)
> It was only useful
My 40 had a wheel pilot when I bought it. (ST4000+ and the wheel ring)
It was only useful for motoring in calm seas.
The mechanism would get overpowered in anything else and then it would just
quit trying.
I viewed it as a safety item and so I have since upgraded to a hydraulic
ram on the quadrant
I am looking for suggestions on an auto pilot for our 40-2. I don't think the
Raymarine wheel pilot will work good enough. Anybody got suggestions on either
s wheel mount or a quadrant mount. What do you use??? Also I would like to be
able to connect to my B&G Zues3 down the line. Thanks for a
Hi All. Also wanted to comment on the pressure question. As I noted in my
post about the NavTec - 10 failure, I have been examining all the issues that I
more or less ignored or was happily ignorant of till now. One item was to
determine the yield and breaking load on my backstay and correlat
Yes. This hydraulic backstay episode has caused me to think in detail about the
backstay reliability and options if failure occurs while under sail. I was also
able to see what happens when the hydraulic backstay fully extends -- not a
pretty sight. Even on the hard I was lucky nothing got dama
Thanks for your comment, Jeff. I agree that adjuster failure at sea would
be suboptimal (putting it lightly). This is partly why I've opted to get
rid of mine entirely. Nothing really beats the reliability of a turnbuckle.
My boat doesn't race so a static backstay with no moving parts, seals, UV
su
Hi all -- I have been following this integral hydraulic backstay adjuster
discussion with interest as my NavTec - 10 just gave up and leaked all its
fluid about a month ago. My adjuster is a "Series 6" according to NavTec,
manufactured in the early 80s. NavTec does not make the seal kit anymor
Rob,
I don't want to be too technical, but with split backstay like yours, the
tension on the rod is not exactly the sum of the tension of the two wires. It
is less (sum x cos(angle)) because you pull at an angle. Since you mention that
you cannot reach the rod, the angle is probably not that b
The plastic over the wire is not a permanent/factory installationthe
boat's original owner must have decided to put them on for some
reasonmaybe to reduce chafing on the bimini...you can buy these
coverings by the foot at most yacht shops...you just pry them open to
fit on and off. He
Has anyone rebuilt a Sailtec hydraulic backstay adjuster? I have one that was
on my 1987 35 mkIII. It is a -10 Standard.
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> On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List
> wrote:
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>
> As Charlie points out, just about any hydraulics shop (and most farm
> implement,
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