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2021-11-18 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
If you have an internal topping lift there should also be an unused exit point on the mast closer to deck level. My 1985 33-2 has an internal topping lift and ring on a car arrangement intended for the symmetrical spin. It exits the mast port side and is led to the cabin top. This is a

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2021-11-18 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I can’t believe you don’t have a topping lift – right around your upper spreader? Take a look with some binoculars. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:18 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Bruce

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2021-11-18 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Callisto (35-2) came with an identical setup to what Rick describes below (including poles in storage...), and the line-adjustable spin-pole car is very beefy (Merriman most likely). I removed the car and lines to simplify things as there is no way two of us are handling the heavy spin pole when

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2021-11-18 Thread Novabraid via CnC-List
Bruce, I did foredeck for a number of years on a C 40 TM/DK and when racing in the cruising class we ALWAYS used a whisker pole to sail wing on wing. We actually carried two poles on board, one for to 100% jib and a second for the 135% and 150%. Yes we took a rating penalty but it made the

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2021-11-18 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Thanks everyone for the insights. I had a feeling that using the ring I showed was a bad idea, but I had to ask. Now another related question - What do you use for a topping lift on the pole? We have a main halyard, jib/genoa halyard and two spinnaker halyards on the boat. How would one rig

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2021-11-18 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I don’t think I have described my system before, but perhaps it is relevant here. I rarely race in spinnaker class, so use my whisker pole (Forespar aluminum adjustable) 90% of the time off the wind. I have a track on the front of the mast designed for the spinnaker pole and a hoop that the

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2021-11-18 Thread cenelson via CnC-List
You might also consider a Forte whisker or spin pole. I have both on Water Phantom and they have worked well for almost 20 years.  When I bought mine (spin first) they were less expensive than the Forespar equivalent and the were made on a mandrel with biaxial carbon fiber impregnated with

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2021-11-18 Thread rjcasciato--- via CnC-List
Bruce, You really want to rethink this whole topic before doing anything. I have the same boat (“Impromptu” C 38MKIIC build in the Bruckman shop) that Rick has only hull #125. It also came with lots of sail handling gear like the dual bayonet track car, and the dual bayonet spinnaker

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2021-11-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bruce, I have installed a whisker pole. The link below is a folder for pictures of the entire mast project. Inside is a folder for the whisker pole. Forespar makes the telescoping pole with the adjustable T-track fitting and jaw.

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2021-11-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Imzadi (an old IOR boat) came with 2 spin halyards, a track and line adjustable ring car on the front of the mast, and a ring on either side of the mast for use with a reaching strut. Her sail inventory has a 135 genoa (set up with a foam luff, for reefing down to about 90% on the furler) and

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2021-11-18 Thread Todd Williams via CnC-List
DON’T DO IT! Mount a stationary ring (cheap option) or a Spinnaker Pole Lift on the leading edge of the mast. You will need full mobility of your rig when sailing with a spinnaker. If you use the ring on the trailing edge of the mast, one wind shift will pull your pole forward and damage your

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2021-11-18 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Not surprisingly, my 1976 42 Custom is set up for a symmetrical chute (track with car on the front of the mast). FWIW, when I bought a whisker pole for main and jib racing, I upgraded the fitting on the mast car to accept the end-fitting of the whisker pole. I also replaced the end-fitting of

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2021-11-18 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
I found a photo of the track: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c10vvqjoad6ho7l/Screen%20shot%202011-11-14%20at%209.36.54%20AM.png?dl=0 We had a bullet car (for the spinnaker pole) and a ring car (for

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2021-11-18 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Bruce, Do you have a track running up the front of your mast? If so, you would measure the track width and buy a ring car that would fit it. If not, you need to install the track and the appropriate ring car. The ring should not be in a fixed position as you will find higher and lower

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2021-11-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Do it right. As a minimum, install a proper ring on the forward side of the mast at the proper height. If it were me, I'd make a trip to Don's Marine Salvage and try to find a used Harken track and spinnaker pole car. For your purposes, you could probably get by with a pin stop car. Keep an

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2021-11-18 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I second Bob's comment.  Whisker or spinnaker poles exert lots of pressure on the fitting which gets transferred to the mast/rig. If the ring/fitting lets go, the pole would shoot across the deck and likely not stop until it hit something (human or otherwise) or was stopped by the clew of the

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2021-11-18 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Looks like the PO took that pin with the ring on it and turned it upside down when he had that barbaric looking Tack clevis with the hooks made. (sorry) Seems like that would be a little low for a Whisker/Spin Pole to me. Is there any reason you couldn’t just attached a ring to the front of the

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2021-11-18 Thread Bob Mann via CnC-List
Don't do it. Spend the few bucks and set it up right. That little ring won't be able to take the pressure of a whisker pole. I don't know what that ring could be used for, other than maybe holding a preventer that isn't deployed. Bob > On 11/18/2021 9:27 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List

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2021-11-18 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, I was wondering if you folks can give me some advice as to rigging a whisker pole on our 37/40+. The boat, which has spent a good part of its time on the west coast of Florida, was previously named "Dagny" and saw its share of races. Yet, the boat does not have a whisker pole