Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-15 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
limits. Garhauer is also heavier than Harken, but you have to have everything else 110% perfect for that to make a difference, in racing. Leslie. Phoenix C&C32. On Sat, 10/13/18, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 2

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-15 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
limits. Garhauer is also heavier than Harken, but you have to have everything else 110% perfect for that to make a difference, in racing. Leslie. Phoenix C&C32. On Sat, 10/13/18, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-14 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? To: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" Cc: "Chris Graham" Date: Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:53 AM         I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my father-in-law sell his belo

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-14 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
it is just that much more work. Leslie. Phoenix C&C32 was Navigo2 C&C25 On Thu, 10/11/18, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? To: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" Cc: "Chris Grah

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
smartphone. Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List Date: 2018-10-13 10:26 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sam Salter Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on the undersid

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: Sam Salter Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling - they

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
On my 27 MkIII I installed the Lewmar size 1, it uses the existing holes. Happy with it ( but I customized it for single handling ) Sylvain C&C27 MkIII On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 9:14:28 AM EDT, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: I need to first replace the main traveler system. A

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 11:36 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List wrote: Go Garhauer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system t

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Go Garhauer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system that won’t break the bank? Chris Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
ff at an attractive price. > > Gary > > 30-1 with a boatload of their stuff > > > > *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Chris > Graham via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:14 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Chris Graham > *Subject:* Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Oh wow! I’ll see if I can find that and take a look Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 10:25 AM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on the underside. It fits the head of the installat

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Not necessarily cheap, but Harken makes a track that has a longitudinal slot on the underside. It fits the head of the installation bolts so they can slide anywhere along the track. No filling and redrilling - they can match the original bolt spacing - easy, quick install. sam On Oct 13, 2018

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
&C 26' or 27'?   I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system that won’t break the bank?   Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Roller furler - Profurl sam  On Oc

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Look at the selection from Garhauer. Great stuff at an attractive price. Gary 30-1 with a boatload of their stuff From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26&#x

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-13 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
I need to first replace the main traveler system. Any suggestions with a system that won’t break the bank? Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:43 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Roller furler - Profurl sam  On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Roller furler - Profurl sam On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Gotcha! Roller furling or hank on Sam? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Chris, I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Gotcha!  Roller furling or hank on Sam? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:16 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Chris, I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135” I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but t

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Chris, I meant to say “I upgraded to New Dacron sails and changed the Genoa to a 135” I might have got a little more speed from the folding prop, but the laminate Genoa sets much better and allows me to point a little higher. A laminate main would improve that some more. And hopefully reduce th

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Excellent!!!  Thanks so much for the suggestions Sam! Noted!!  Fair Winds Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, October 12, 2018, 7:03 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: Chris, When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After a few years I upgraded t

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
Chris, When I bought the 26, It came with a 150 Dacron genoa and a Dacron main. After a few years I upgraded to new Dacron sails and changed the main to a 135. Later I changed the Genoa to a 135 laminate sail from Evolution Sails in Toronto. Both upgrades improved performance (after all it is a

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
g they were all sheeted flat amidships.www.cncphotoalbum.com | From: CnC-List on behalf of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: October 11, 2018 6:53 AM To: Richard Bush via CnC-List Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? I really do appreciate the feedback and encourage

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
e that the vessel is presumed to heel given a force of 1 pound per square foot on the sails, assuming they were all sheeted flat amidships. www.cncphotoalbum.com From: CnC-List on behalf of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: October 11, 2018 6:53 AM To: Richard Bush via CnC-List Cc: Chris

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
& Resource CenterThis is the angle that the vessel is presumed to heel given a force of 1 pound per square foot on the sails, assuming they were all sheeted flat amidships.www.cncphotoalbum.com | From: CnC-List on behalf of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: October 11, 2018 6:53 AM To: Rich

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
.com From: CnC-List on behalf of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: October 11, 2018 6:53 AM To: Richard Bush via CnC-List Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my fat

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Having moved up from a 27 MKIII to a 37/40+, I can certainly say that while the new bigger boat can easily be single handed once  under way, and I would be comfortable taking her to

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Having moved up from a 27 MKIII to a 37/40+, I can certainly say that while the new bigger boat can easily be single handed once  under way, and I would be comfortable taking her to a mooring alone, I'm not ready to go into a tight slip without another hand.  Does that keep me from getting out? 

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thanks so much Ron!!Cheers Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 4:43 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote: I do know what you mean about keeping it small.We had a SJ 24, a great boat, nimble and quick for its size, like a Porsche.  A little squirrely (sp?) with

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I do know what you mean about keeping it small.We had a SJ 24, a great boat, nimble and quick for its size, like a Porsche.  A little squirrely (sp?) with quartering wind and a chute up, but a blast to sail.  We could beat the snot out of Erickson 25s and most other 25 & 26 footers boat for boat

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? We are talking 4’ here :) I’d need a 36-38’ boat if I’m really looking for space and privacy :) I’m an ice climber and mountaineer. I’ve spent two weeks in a tent pinned down in snow and wind. To me, a 10’ x 18’ space i

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:53 AMTo: Richard Bush via CnC-List Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my father-in-law sell his beloved 27' to move up to a 34&#x

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
r 11, 2018 9:53 AM To: Richard Bush via CnC-List Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my father-in-law sell his beloved 27' to move up to a 34' to appease his wife who complained that she was

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
We are talking 4’ here :) I’d need a 36-38’ boat if I’m really looking for space and privacy :)  I’m an ice climber and mountaineer. I’ve spent two weeks in a tent pinned down in snow and wind. To me, a 10’ x 18’ space is palatial lol.  I spend a majority of my time under the sun and in the wind o

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Steve Staten via CnC-List
As the owner of a 26’, I have to agree with everyone on all points. Granted, this is my first boat with no prior sailing experience on my part. I cannot speak with experience concerning the advantages of one size over another. I CAN say that I would not care to spend a weekend sailing with more

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
.com] On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? But boy you guys are good!!! Lol And I do appreciate the suggestions and comments. I tend to overthink

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
55 -Original Message- From: David via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:21 am Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? #yiv7396374929 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Whether its a 30 or 27 or 26.  Have patience with looking.   Someone in

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Graham via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 08:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Thanks Bruce! I’m going to be single handing 90% of the time, and storage, mooring costs, sail replacement, etc...is another reason why I’m tryi

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
ently, a 37:   Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 600: Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: David via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: David via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:21 am Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? #yiv1121072735 P {margin-top:0;m

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
The 30' C&C is a beautiful boat by the way! I understand the push to consider it.  :)C On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 8:22:31 AM EDT, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Thank you Fred.  The 30’s in my area are far too rich for my blood but I’ll keep my eyes open. I’m not pulling the tri

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread David via CnC-List
t@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Agreed with Bruce - none of the boats in this range are too big to be easily handled with a small crew. IMO you are unlikely to wish you’d bought a 27 after having bought a 30. You described the condition of the 27 in some de

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Agreed with Bruce - none of the boats in this range are too big to be easily handled with a small crew. IMO you are unlikely to wish you’d bought a 27 after having bought a 30. You described the condition of the 27 in some detail and it clearly needs a lot of work. There are tons of tired boa

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thank you Fred.  The 30’s in my area are far too rich for my blood but I’ll keep my eyes open. I’m not pulling the trigger on either boat until the spring. Maybe something comes available between now and then.  Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 8:18 AM, Fre

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Chris — I’ll chime in in favor of the 30mkI, having owned a 1981 for several years before we moved up to our Landfall 38. The 30 was my first boat, and I was worried about single-handing her; when I first came aboard, it seemed enormous! But learning on that boat was a joy; it really took care

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thanks Bruce! I’m going to be single handing 90% of the time, and storage, mooring costs, sail replacement, etc...is another reason why I’m trying to keep the length down.  I do understand the 30’ is a superior boat on many levels. I think I’m committed to a smaller size though I may be convince

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
I had a 1977 C&C 27 MK III for 15 years on Lake Michigan.  The nice thing about the MK III was that it had a taller rig than the one you'relooking at,  which made her a great light air performer, generally hitting hull speed of 6.4 in about 9 kts pf wind, and which would commonly sustain 7

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
The 27 looks like she’s hit some rocks as the leading edge of the keel is welll beaten.keel bolts looked fine and the hull to keel joint looked okay as wel ( no smikebor separation). The deck coring will need to be replaced from the bow tip back about 2-2.5” as the last two stanchions in the bow

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
It’s such a difficult choice. This is great information Ron. I appreciate it  Chris Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 9:58 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote: We had both on Carlyle.  As I recall the 26 was a more tender boat, and with the larger beam nee

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
We had both on Carlyle.  As I recall the 26 was a more tender boat, and with the larger beam needed more attention in the puffs.  However, it did better in light air.  Our average wind is 10kts with a std deviation of 7, so we have a number of days in the 3-5 and 5-7 range.The 27-3 was a great s

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread T Sutton via CnC-List
want to move up as soon as soon. My $0.02 worth, Tom S From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Great point... poor choice of words there! I’m leaning toward

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?   Good morning all!   I know this is such a general and subjective question but it is one that I am currently faced with. Imagine two boats, the 26' and the 27' both in the same ball park in terms of price, the 26

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
, 2018 8:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Good morning all! I know this is such a general and subjective question but it is one that I am currently faced with. Imagine two boats, the 26' and the 27' both in the same ball par

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
interested in more information.   Rick Brass Washington, NC       From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 7:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Stus-List C&C 26&#x

Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 7:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Good morning all! I know this is such a general and subjective question but it is one that I am currently faced wit

Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Good morning all! I know this is such a general and subjective question but it is one that I am currently faced with. Imagine two boats, the 26' and the 27' both in the same ball park in terms of price, the 26' is a bit newer, the 27' is a 1974.  Looking for a nice coastal cruiser and overnighter