Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-05 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
One of the many reasons I love my 34+. No cockpit drains and no open transom except when you want it. Dave > On Jan 4, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Rob Ball via CnC-List > wrote: > > When I first worked at C&C, I did a number of calculations figuring out how > big the drains had to be, in order to emp

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2019-01-04 Thread Greg Swetka via CnC-List
I also have a 35mkII and I know for a fact that there were never 4 thru hulls. Mine aft ones were always teed to the forward ones. The aft ones always held water as the hoses went straight down and looped back up over the partial bulkheads before connecting to the forward ones. I recently improv

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-04 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Interesting. I’ve always thought that open cockpits made sense. I remember the days of concern about open transoms. They’re everywhere now… Regards, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit > On Jan 4, 2019, at 7:30 PM,

Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-04 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
When I first worked at C&C, I did a number of calculations figuring out how big the drains had to be, in order to empty the cockpit quickly enough . . . . . Later on, of course we did some open transoms - dangerous everyone said - but it turned out they were actually safer . . . . . Rob Ball.

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2019-01-04 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
Many races also have specific requirements around the size of scuppers vs. cockpit volume. From: CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: January 4, 2019 2:12:27 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories

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2019-01-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
And the 35 MK1 has a very low companionway/bridge deck but lots of volume to fill with water below decks. I could be about knee deep in water in the MKIi cockpit not the same in the MKI. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:13 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Be interesting to plug them, fill the cockpit

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2019-01-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Be interesting to plug them, fill the cockpit with a few inches of water and see how fast they drain. I'm guessing marine architects have guidelines for how big the flow area for scuppers has to be for a certain area of cockpit. ABYC may even have such a guide. My point is if there were original

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2019-01-04 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Dwight Same here.  The aft cockpit valves were removed and the aft scuppers were T'ed to the forward valves.  When I was getting the bottom of the boat ready for paint I could make out the where they had been.  It was most likely done at the factory as /Fireball/ was campaigned by C&C in the

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2019-01-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
On my C&C 35 MKII the after cockpit drain seacocks have been removed. The hoses for the aft cockpit drains cross over and exit into the forward cockpit drain seacocks. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:07 AM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Don, > > I have a 1974 C&C 35-II

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2019-01-03 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Hi Don, I have a 1974 C&C 35-II with the same drain plan. I’ve sailed in >34kts in Puget Sound (I didn’t look after that) and some puffs were around 50 - reported by other cruising boats, returning from the same raft-up. I should have had the third reef in, but had my hands full by then. Dep

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-03 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
With all this discussion of the cockpit drains I went out to my boat (C&C35 MkII, which spends winter in my side yard) to check the layout and take some measurements.  The two scupper valves are 9" from the centerline (18" apart) and are approx. 20" below the waterline.  The cockpit deck (floor

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
As I recall, on my 35-1 it takes 15-20 degrees for water to emerge from the leeward steering station scupper. That's just when it's starting to get fun! Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:16 AM Garry Cross via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Understan

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-03 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
, 2019 12:16 To: Neil Andersen Cc: Garry Cross ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains Having them crossed it is easy for me to imagine a heel where the through hull is higher than the drain. On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:01 PM Neil Andersen wrote: The issue is when the

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-03 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
, January 3, 2019 12:15 PM To: Neil Andersen Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains Understand that. Wonder what degree of heel it would take to achieve that. One would think that it would be extreme and that one would want to reduce that as soon as possible. I think

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2019-01-03 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
ndersen > 20691 Jamieson Rd > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Garry Cross > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:19 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Garry Cross > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Coc

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-03 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Neil Andersen ; Garry Cross Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains The issue is when the cockpit holes AND the thru-hulls are both below the line. Neil 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 2

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2019-01-02 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
19 2:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Garry Cross Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains Interesting, on the 35-2 there are 4 drains and 2 through hulls. I don't think they are above the waterline. The aft cockpit floor is lower than the forward one. Both sets of drains are forward.

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-02 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
;Dennis C." > To: CnClist > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:44:05 -0600 > Subject: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains > Just to piggyback on the stuck seacock thread. > > My buddy is a salvor. He gets the call when a boat on our bayou is on the > bottom.

Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2018-12-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just to piggyback on the stuck seacock thread. My buddy is a salvor. He gets the call when a boat on our bayou is on the bottom. A significant percentage of the sinkings involve plugged cockpit scupper drains. Leaves and/or debris plug the drain(s). The cockpit fills with rain water. The