Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-26 Thread Gary Nylander
Sounds just like a 30-1, except we have a pan under a grate and a pump overboard. And covers for things that need to be dry. Gary - Original Message - From: Josh Muckley To: C&C List Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - crui

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-26 Thread Gary Nylander
many years and spent a year aboard a while back. Gary - Original Message - From: dwight To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering On my 35 MKII 2 of us shower every day for 5 days and the

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2014-02-25 Thread dwight
Rich On Feb 25, 2014, at 19:29, "dwight" wrote: Thank you _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: February 25, 2014 7:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering He tra

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2014-02-25 Thread Bruno Lachance
t; > Rich > >> On Feb 25, 2014, at 19:29, "dwight" wrote: >> >> Thank you >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich >> Knowles >> Sent: February 25, 2014 7:21 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >

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2014-02-25 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
20895?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4ac0fa7b1f&vxp=mtron >> eBay at the moment. >> >> >> >> Rick Brass >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh >> Muckley >> *Sent:* M

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-25 Thread Rich Knowles
Attaboy:) Rich > On Feb 25, 2014, at 19:29, "dwight" wrote: > > Thank you > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich > Knowles > Sent: February 25, 2014 7:21 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfa

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2014-02-25 Thread Jim Watts
om] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley > *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 7:50 PM > > *To:* C&C List > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering > > > > Mark, > > I've never seen an engine heat only option on a water heater. The > cheapes

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2014-02-25 Thread dwight
Thank you _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: February 25, 2014 7:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering He translated it for you, Dwight! Say "thank you" Ri

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2014-02-25 Thread Rich Knowles
Sent: February 25, 2014 5:52 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering > > Marek, > > It is warmer than along the St-Lawrence river, with dominant wind from the > west and south-west it offers good sailing. The bay and t

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2014-02-25 Thread dwight
Has the name been changed, I thought “baie de chaleur” _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance Sent: February 25, 2014 5:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Marek, It is wa

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2014-02-25 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
ment.   Rick Brass   From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:50 PM To: C&C List Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-25 Thread Bruno Lachance
From: Bruno Lachance > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Bruno > Becassine C&C 33 mk II > Baie des ch

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2014-02-25 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Used that method on some Chi-Mac races.  Wow, that Lake Michigan water is cold! Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL From: Andrew Burton To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruisi

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2014-02-25 Thread jtsails
976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering In cold weather we are either showering ashore or using a pot of hot water a

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2014-02-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Bruno, guessing by the name of the place where you sail, it can’t be that cold up there (;-)) Marek -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:49 -0500 From: Bruno Lachance To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising &

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-25 Thread Joel Aronson
Baby wipes are a great way to freshen up on a hot day without using any water. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > In cold weather we are either showering ashore or using a pot of hot water > and a towel to wash off in the head. > > For better weather

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe
In cold weather we are either showering ashore or using a pot of hot water and a towel to wash off in the head. For better weather we have something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Elements-Private-Shower-Enclosure/dp/B001Q3L71Q/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1393338708&sr=8-15&keywords=camp+s

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2014-02-25 Thread Bill Coleman
y C&C 30-2 "Firewater" Milwaukee, WI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Would anyone have a link

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2014-02-25 Thread dwight
ilto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Would anyone have a link or photo to shower sump drain? Ours is missing and the vinyl house is plugged.

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2014-02-25 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
arts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4ac0fa7b1f&vxp=mtron > eBay at the moment. > > > > Rick Brass > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley > *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 7:50 PM > *To:* C&C List > *

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2014-02-25 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Jim Reinardy wrote: >> >>> Kevin, >>> >>> >>> >>> I sent a picture off list from my winterizing checklist pictures. Hope >>> that helps! >&

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2014-02-25 Thread Andrew Burton
gt;> >> Jim Reinardy >> >> C&C 30-2 "Firewater" >> >> Milwaukee, WI >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin >> Driscoll >> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 8:44 PM >

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
ewater" > > Milwaukee, WI > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin > Driscoll > *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 8:44 PM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering >

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2014-02-24 Thread Rick Brass
-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:50 PM To: C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Mark, I've never seen an engine heat only option on a water heater. The cheapest water heater w

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Jim Reinardy
: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Would anyone have a link or photo to shower sump drain? Ours is missing and the vinyl house is plugged. 30mkII aft head. Thanks Kevin Sent from a mobile device. On Feb 24, 2014 2:25 PM, "Tom Anderson" mai

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2014-02-24 Thread Kevin Driscoll
even while cruising > and taking showers every night we aren't going thru that much water every > day. > > Tom Anderson > C&C 32 Nonpareil > Marblehead, MA > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:59:33 -0400 > From: Robert Abbott > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Joe Della Barba
There is always thedock shower. We pulled into Solomon’s on a VERY hot and windless day about noon. We were hot and stinky, so we grabbed some shampoo and shaving gear and proceeded to shower off on the dock with a hose in our bathing suites. We noticed a window with Mylar reflective film r

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2014-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Steve, I'm not sure about the layout of a C&C 32 but the Pearson 32 has an easy shower layout such that the entire head spans the beam of the boat just forward of the mast. This provides sufficient room to move. It even has a track for a curtain attached to the ceiling. With a curtain you preve

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2014-02-24 Thread dwight
ect: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Mark, I've never seen an engine heat only option on a water heater. The cheapest water heater with heat exchanger I've seen was an Attwood for about $350. You could just not use, of even not hook up, the electricity. On the oth

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Steve, Having seen the cramped heads and showers on the boat show boats, my wife and I decided early on that one head with an enclosed shower was the only way for us to go. When I found the C&C 37+ the enclosed shower and single head was a big win. We use the shower regularly and very much enjoy

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Mark, I've never seen an engine heat only option on a water heater. The cheapest water heater with heat exchanger I've seen was an Attwood for about $350. You could just not use, of even not hook up, the electricity. On the other hand if someone is parting with one that has broken electric heat,

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2014-02-24 Thread Jim Watts
OK, got it. It's commonly called a "water heater", which is the reason for my confusion. No point shipping an old one around if part of it doesn't work. It's nice to have hot water at the dock. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2014 15:57, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:

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2014-02-24 Thread Bruno Lachance
er the other boat. > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom > Anderson > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:25 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering > > Steve, > While cruising, we usually t

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2014-02-24 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
The boat is not raw water cooled - has a coolant system and a internal heat exchanger to manage the engine temperature --- but I will need to add a heat exchanger to heat a tank of fresh water for domestic use. Mark - Dr. Mark Bo

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2014-02-24 Thread Jim Watts
I'm confused. Is your boat raw-water cooled? Are you going to go to closed-circuit cooling? Or are you talking about hooking up a water heater to the existing raw-water cooling? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 February 2014 15:33, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: > > Clarificat

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2014-02-24 Thread Wally Bryant
And if you really want to get clean and save water, pick up some white 3M pads. They're just like 'Loofahs.' Really. They exfoliate nicely. dwight wrote: That is the same process we use on Alianna ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

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2014-02-24 Thread Neil Andersen
re is certainly a case to be made for storage. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:03:33 -0400 From: "dwight" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Message-ID: <7560B9BC31344

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2014-02-24 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Clarification - not a "water exchanger" - I meant I will need a "heat exchanger" connected to the engine - Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the in

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2014-02-24 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Loving all the info. A hot shower option is one of the Admiral's/kids requests for the new boat - so I've been looking at the process required for the upgrade. I don't ever hook up to AC power, nor do I think it is a common option for where I'll be do

Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Tom Anderson
and taking showers every night we aren't going thru that much water every day. Tom Anderson C&C 32 Nonpareil Marblehead, MA Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:59:33 -0400 From: Robert Abbott To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Mes

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2014-02-24 Thread J.P.
nday, February 24, 2014 10:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering I'de love to see your boat Ed, thanks for the offer. Question about showering on a boat in general .. I put pressure water on the boat this past summer. When I am doi

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2014-02-24 Thread Wally Bryant
I'd get sued. you wrote: Wally, you should write a book. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

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2014-02-24 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
At the behest of the Admiral, I installed a shower wand holder in the overhead of the head. She can now stand under it and shower without having to hold it. Simple but great upgrade. Got it an an RV store for 7 or 8 bucks. Shower wand has integral on/off valve. Made for HUGE deposit in the "emo

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2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
That's all great feedback. Thanks everyone. Not as dire as I imagined. Our 32 doesn't have the extend-a-shower faucet. I just installed a nice new single temp faucet last year to replace the foot pump that was there. Complete overhaul of the freshwater system and the first time we have used it sinc

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2014-02-24 Thread dwight
No mess left behind: in fact showering helps to keep things around the head clean. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: February 24, 2014 3:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showe

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2014-02-24 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
Either soft soap or a decent bottle of body wash. Get one with a tropical scent. You'll think you're in the islands. :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > you wrote: > >> Doesnt the >> whole head get all soap scummy? >> > > Ha!

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2014-02-24 Thread Andrew Burton
to keep things around > the head clean. > > > -- > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan > Plavsa > *Sent:* February 24, 2014 3:32 PM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread dwight
: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Steve: We have a shower in the head on our C&C 32.shower water is pumped overboard from the sump under the wooden grate in the head. Shower water does not go into the bilge. While there is not an abundance of space, there is enough

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread dwight
That is the same process we use on Alianna -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: February 24, 2014 3:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering I've never seen

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2014-02-24 Thread dwight
-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering Hi All, I only just realized that there was a layout available for the Landfall 38 that had a U-shaped galley, more interior woodwork and most impressively, a separate shower. I've been discussing our needs with the admiral and we're in ag

Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Robert Abbott
Steve: We have a shower in the head on our C&C 32.shower water is pumped overboard from the sump under the wooden grate in the head. Shower water does not go into the bilge. While there is not an abundance of space, there is enough to stand up and/or sit down to run fresh water over yo

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2014-02-24 Thread Wally Bryant
you wrote: Doesnt the whole head get all soap scummy? Ha! You're obviously not a lazy bachelor. Hard soap leaves soap scum, and I haven't bought it in decades. Soft soap doesn't. So stop using hard soap at home and on the boat and get a pump bottle of soft liquid hand soap. These days y

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2014-02-24 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
Steve, We're fairly miserly on Touche'. However, if we're in port we have the option to hook up to dock water. That's a quick and simple upgrade you might consider. Just tee into the discharge of your pump and install a city water inlet on the outside of your cockpit coaming. (Be sure to turn i

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2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Thanks for your input Wally. Having never taken a shower on a boat I always assumed that the head/shower combo would leave a big mess. I know that at home one of my least favourite chores is scrubbing the bathtub. Doesn't the whole head get all soap scummy? There is certainly a case to be made for

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2014-02-24 Thread Jim Watts
We use two 2.5 gallon solar showers. The smaller bags heat up faster than a single large bag and are easier to drag around. The real Stearns Sun Showers are far superior to the straight black bag. We normally shower in the cockpit but have put the solar shower outlet down into the head when it's co

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2014-02-24 Thread Colin Kilgour
We have a sun shower as well, but have never used it to shower. We use it for heating water for dishes (if we've been on the hook for a while and not running the engine) and I fill it up to use as emergency water when we're offshore (keep it with the ditch bag). Cheers, Colin On Mon, Feb 24, 2

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2014-02-24 Thread Wally Bryant
I've never seen the LF38 layout with separate shower, though I remember seeing pictures on yachtworld. IIRC, it looked pretty small -- taking about as much space as the drawers and hanging lockers do on my boat. Frankly, this boat isn't a dock condo, and space is pretty precious. I've proba

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2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I knew I bought one of those camping showers for a reason. We never ended up using it this summer but its on the boat just in case. It does heat up pretty good that's for sure. Thanks guys. I'm full of stupid questions. Learning to sail is one thing. I took classes. This other stuff though St

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2014-02-24 Thread Colin Kilgour
Stevan I have a shower stall on board and a freshwater rinse at the stern. We use both. In the Caribbean we mostly use the freshwater rinse at the stern, soap up, and then rinse off again. It uses a lot less water than the shower below decks, makes less mess, and is way faster. We use the show

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2014-02-24 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Steve, At our place boat showers are wet, lather, rinse (maybe repeat). The instructions are on the shampoo bottle. :) The past many years this has been using a "sun shower" in a protected (with curtain) cockpit. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 east Van Isl, snowed under At

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I'de love to see your boat Ed, thanks for the offer. Question about showering on a boat in general .. I put pressure water on the boat this past summer. When I am doing the dishes or washing up i run the water then turn it off. Scrub. Turn water on, rinse. I am miserly with the water. When you guy

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2014-02-24 Thread D Harben
Hi Ed and Stevan, May I chime in here with my interest to also see a Landfall 38 Don > On Feb 24, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Prime Interest wrote: > > Prime interest has the u-shaped galley, no separate shower, the single > quarter berth and nav station. > > I'd be happy to show it to you someti

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2014-02-24 Thread Prime Interest
Prime interest has the u-shaped galley, no separate shower, the single quarter berth and nav station. I'd be happy to show it to you sometime. ed Prime Interset 1982 Landfall 38 Toronto, Ontario On Monday, February 24, 2014, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > Hi All, > > I only just realized that the

Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

2014-02-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Hi All, I only just realized that there was a layout available for the Landfall 38 that had a U-shaped galley, more interior woodwork and most impressively, a separate shower. I've been discussing our needs with the admiral and we're in agreement on the requirement for a separate shower so the Lan