Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-16 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Great information On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > "Balsa core" gets some bad press and I was interested in how it came into > boating, especially C&Cs. > > After some research, I learned: > Making things with a core was first used b

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-16 Thread JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List
Rob Mazza is the expert in this specific topic JK Motion Designs Limited 647 990 7752 , but that is better covered by John Kelly Cuthbertson or others with more personal knowledge. >> >> >> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed t

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-16 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hey JohnKelly, Hopefully, Rob Mazza will share some info on this. I imagine C&C did considerable testing to determine the strength of their construction to evaluate laminate schedules and optimum core thickness. Do you remember seeing any letters in your binders explaining the testing done, dat

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-16 Thread Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List
FWIW, this prompted me to take a look at the book "Heart of Glass: Fiberglass boats and the men who made them": and some info on Balsa is on p122, "Balsa Core. The Baltek Corporation was the exclusive supplier to powerboat builders of balsa planks for stiffening hull sides and bottoms. When balsa

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-16 Thread Wade Glew via CnC-List
very interesting stuff; thanks Chuck Wade Oh Boy 33-2 On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > "Balsa core" gets some bad press and I was interested in how it came into > boating, especially C&Cs. > > After some research, I learned: > Makin

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Unfortunately, I’ve become somewhat of an expert myself. From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 5:34 PM To: Stus-List Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history Rob Mazza is the expert in this specific topic JK Motion

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2021 6:06 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history Hey JohnKelly, Hopefully, Rob Mazza will share some info on this. I imagine C&C did cons

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
; Richard Bush Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history Great info and research; so, how did balsa go from "wonder" material to; "bad stuff don't touch..."? Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridg

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
was essentially beyond repair, so it essentially got restricted to sheltered waters from then on. Joe Coquina From: Richard Bush via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cscheaf...@comcast.net; Richard Bush Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Balsa

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history There is no bad balsa. Only bad owners (or prior owners) I think it is safe to say that pretty much all water saturation of balsa is caused by poor bedding of fittings Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to t

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
5 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Matthew Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history That is not a safe assumption. We did extensive repairs to the core below the waterline on my Custom 42, including from the keel back and the keel forward. Arguably, water in these areas resulted from fail

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
That's a great story about Pearson starting the end grain orientation. I wonder if that's 100% true. I'll bet several others would have thought of that as well. Anyone who works with wood knows the compression strength is best when wood grain is oriented that way. Honeycomb cores are end gra

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Sent: Fri, Sep 17, 2021 10:18 am Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history Time: I doubt anyone really thought through what balsa core would be like when it was 50-60-70 or more years old. A lot of things can go wrong with a lot of materials when past the half-cen

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history That's a great story about Pearson starting the end grain orientation. I wonder if that's 100% true. I'll bet several others would have thought of that as well. Anyone who works with wood knows the compr

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
gt; Anyone with specific knowledge?? > > Neil Andersen > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > 484-354-8800 > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 10:39:29 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER > Subject: Stus-List Re: Balsa core history >

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
Interesting conversation, and thank you for asking for my input. Apologies for a late reply though, I've been up to my eyebrows, on behalf of the Marine Museum, in organizing the upcoming Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame Inductions on October 3rd in Kingston. I started my career in the marine industr

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Thanks Rob for your detailed response. I would love to learn more on the topic if you can provide links to any of the testing or procedures described for installing Baltek Balsa, I'd be most grateful. My boatyard fiberglass guy works weekends fixing Sea Rays. Mostly problems with brand new bo

Stus-List Re: Balsa core history

2021-09-17 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Really interesting and thorough explanation. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2021, at 1:07 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:  Thanks Rob for your detailed response. I would love to learn more on the topic if you can provide links to any of the testing or procedures describ