Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-13 Thread Jean-Daniel Dupas
Le 10 oct. 08 à 20:04, Uli Kusterer a écrit : On 10.10.2008, at 07:15, Graham Cox wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 11:30 am, j o a r wrote: Most apps use just the name, but I've never liked that and I support your idea of using the bundle identifier. Makes a lot of sense. Yep, seemed to make

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-11 Thread Paul Bruneau
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:31 AM, Graham Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is anyone poking around in there? (Not a rhetorical question, I'm interested in knowing what people do visit that folder for) Since you ask, in my one-user, non-document-based scheduling app, I keep the data file in there

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Graham Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'll do it this way unless I hear some good arguments against. The user might have very legitimate reason to play with things in ~/Library/Application Support. As such, I'd hesitate to confuse the user with weird

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread j o a r
On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: The user might have very legitimate reason to play with things in ~/Library/Application Support. As such, I'd hesitate to confuse the user with weird names. In the worst case, the user might delete the folder in confusion. Your app's bundle

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Rob Keniger
On 10/10/2008, at 4:36 PM, j o a r wrote: The same thing could be said about preference files too though, and they're stored using the bundle identifier per default. The name is also not as stable as the bundle identifier. The name of the app could, for example, be localized in the

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:36 AM, j o a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same thing could be said about preference files too though, and they're stored using the bundle identifier per default. Preference files are opaque; the user's interaction with preference files should be (ideally) through the

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread j o a r
On Oct 10, 2008, at 12:02 AM, Rob Keniger wrote: This might be true but I have a lot of apps installed (more than 250, not counting the Apple pre-installed apps) and the count of those that use a bundle identifier as the name of their folder in the ~/Library/Application Support folder is

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Graham Cox
On 10 Oct 2008, at 6:06 pm, Kyle Sluder wrote: You're going to be hardcoding the name of the folder anyway, whether that hardcoding happens to be in the form of a string in your source code or the CFBundleIdentifier in your Info.plist. Why needlessly inconvenience the user when you derive no

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:27 AM, j o a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give a concrete example? I would argue that you're doing something wrong if you ask your user to muck around in ~/Library. There are better ways of solving the plugin problem - as demonstrated by both System Preferences

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Quincey Morris
On Oct 10, 2008, at 00:31, Graham Cox wrote: I do tend to agree that it's not a place users should be visiting routinely, and the app itself should offer an interface where necessary to manage its own stuff in there. As with prefs, odds are that the only time a user will ever go in there

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Uli Kusterer
On 10.10.2008, at 07:15, Graham Cox wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 11:30 am, j o a r wrote: Most apps use just the name, but I've never liked that and I support your idea of using the bundle identifier. Makes a lot of sense. Yep, seemed to make sense to me too, but I don't think I've ever

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Ricky Sharp
On Friday, October 10, 2008, at 01:04PM, Uli Kusterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10.10.2008, at 07:15, Graham Cox wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 11:30 am, j o a r wrote: Most apps use just the name, but I've never liked that and I support your idea of using the bundle identifier. Makes a lot

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-10 Thread Graham Cox
On 11 Oct 2008, at 5:30 am, Ricky Sharp wrote: Along with being readable, all my customers can easily back up everything from my company (since all files ultimate resides in that Instant Interactive folder). Or, they can choose individual nested folders in case they have different backup

Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-09 Thread Graham Cox
Hi all, What's a good strategy for setting up a support folder in ~/ Application Support/? I'm thinking of using my main bundle's identifier or the application name to name the top-level folder, then maybe have a few subfolders within there for specific types of files (such as document

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-09 Thread j o a r
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Graham Cox wrote: I'm thinking of using my main bundle's identifier or the application name to name the top-level folder, then maybe have a few subfolders within there for specific types of files (such as document templates). Is that a good idea? What do others

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-09 Thread Seth Willits
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:30 PM, j o a r wrote: I'm thinking of using my main bundle's identifier or the application name to name the top-level folder, then maybe have a few subfolders within there for specific types of files (such as document templates). Is that a good idea? What do others do?

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-09 Thread Graham Cox
On 10 Oct 2008, at 11:21 am, Graham Cox wrote: a support folder in ~/Application Support/? I meant ~/Library/Application Support/ of course. G. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or

Re: Strategy for naming support folder

2008-10-09 Thread Graham Cox
On 10 Oct 2008, at 11:30 am, j o a r wrote: Most apps use just the name, but I've never liked that and I support your idea of using the bundle identifier. Makes a lot of sense. Yep, seemed to make sense to me too, but I don't think I've ever seen it, which is why I hesitated. I think