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.com = -Original Message- From: Steven Punte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? Cocoon User Group:

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Cocoon making into > the commerical world? > > > Cocoon User Group: > >It seems like the primary reason people feel >

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s are not really committed to the product. the wrong message, actually :) > -Original Message- > From: Steven Punte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Co

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Title: RE: Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? www.need-a-cake.com I believe > -Original Message- > From: Steven Punte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

Cocoon User Group: It seems like the primary reason people feel Cocoon is being held back from entering into prime time is documentation. Just out of interest, is anyone working on a full book for Cocoon? Steve Punte [EMAIL PROTECTED] By Candlelight If Necessary

RE: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

> Where Coccon is lacking is documentation, documentation, and documentation. +1000 I consider this the root cause. -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.

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IL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:28 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? > > > > > > Dear Cocoon User Group: > > > >First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework, > >

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e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? > > > Dear Cocoon User Group: > >First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework, >I'm a tota

Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

I agree with you, but this is a common problem with open-source software. I have exactly the same problem with many of the programs in the Linux world - brilliant pieces of software produced by people with quite extraordinary dedication, but very badly presented/'marketed'. As a breed, programm

Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

> > What is its direct competition? Someone in my local java users group recently advocated Struts - another apache project - over cocoon. Anyone have any comments? - Please check that your question has not already been answere

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> What is its direct competition? A variety of other content management > systems, foremost of which is probably Zope (an open-source Python CMS with > a good web UI but no XSL underpinnings). This is an evolving sector. If > you look on Google for "content management system" or "Java XSLT" you

Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

my $.02: I came across cocoon bcause I have a client who wants to produce both web pages and PDFs with out maintaining two sets of documents... hey, wait! Isn't that what XML/XSL are all about?! My client doesn't give two hoots about cocoon. It is of value to me as a tool to deliver the product

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2 6:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? > > > Wow, these are completely excellent. And to think I could have > found them > myself if I had had half a brain and looked on the Cocoon links >

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IBM Tutorial http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/education.nsf/xml-onlinecourse-bytitle/83F66813F7FFD61486256B74006EB648?OpenDocument And there are books on the way: http://www.need-a-cake.com/categories/cbook/ Cheers, Thor HW 3/28/2002 9:40:25 PM, Rob Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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02 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world? > Wow, these are completely excellent. And to think I could have found them > myself if I had had half a brain and looked on the Cocoon links > page! (http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/cocoon-links.html) &

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Wow, these are completely excellent. And to think I could have found them myself if I had had half a brain and looked on the Cocoon links page! (http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/cocoon-links.html) OK, well, I must now revise my original opinion slightly. Cocoon is not lacking startup tutorials

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Hi I would strongly recommend this for an excellent introduction. Joseph Rajkumar http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/navigation/index.html Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert wrote: > For your HelloWorld adventure, check out chello on sourceforge. > > Cheers, > Thor HW ---

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For your HelloWorld adventure, check out chello on sourceforge. Cheers, Thor HW 3/28/2002 7:11:32 PM, Rob Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My unsolicited opinion: > >I just ran across Cocoon because I am an xml.apache.org contributor (did >some work last summer on Axis). Cocoon has ver

Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

My unsolicited opinion: I just ran across Cocoon because I am an xml.apache.org contributor (did some work last summer on Axis). Cocoon has very little visibility outside of Apache. I think that Cocoon is designed and built mostly by programmers, and hasn't been marketed well (or indeed at a

Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

Dear Cocoon User Group: First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework, I'm a total believer, and expecially love how Cocoon2 is turning out! Cocoon seems just awesomely powerfully, years ahead of the classical architectures proposed by Sun (i.e. JSP to ServletBeans to EJBs...).