Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-08-17 Thread Simon Kitching
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 08:55, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 28 Jul 2004, at 23:23, Simon Kitching wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 07:24, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > >> now this is sorted and the other releases i've been cutting are out of > >> the way, i'm going to start working thr

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-08-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 28 Jul 2004, at 23:23, Simon Kitching wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 07:24, robert burrell donkin wrote: now this is sorted and the other releases i've been cutting are out of the way, i'm going to start working through the release plan (http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Digester/ 1_2e6_2e0

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 28 Jul 2004, at 23:23, Simon Kitching wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 07:24, robert burrell donkin wrote: now this is sorted and the other releases i've been cutting are out of the way, i'm going to start working through the release plan (http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Digester/ 1_2e6_2e0

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-28 Thread Simon Kitching
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 07:24, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 26 Jul 2004, at 17:59, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:07:59 +1200, Simon Kitching > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > >> And will the Digester 1.x

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 26 Jul 2004, at 17:59, Craig McClanahan wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:07:59 +1200, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, robert burrell donkin wrote: And will the Digester 1.x series be committed to depending on collections, with the happy coincidence that the B

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-26 Thread Simon Kitching
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, robert burrell donkin wrote: > hi simon > > we all agree that the long term solution is to use an ArrayStack > packaged as part of digester. in fact, if we new then what we know now > about developing libraries, we have done this from the start. > > i also agree t

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi simon we all agree that the long term solution is to use an ArrayStack packaged as part of digester. in fact, if we new then what we know now about developing libraries, we have done this from the start. i also agree that it's a trick and a hack but in my mind, it's the least worst soluti

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread Simon Kitching
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 15:23, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > > For me, the most important decision is whether to roll back Craig > > McClanahan's changes to the ArrayStack class. Craig added a copy of > > ArrayStack as o.a.c.d.ArrayStack, to remove the dependency on > > commons-collections. But this

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread Craig McClanahan
> > For me, the most important decision is whether to roll back Craig > McClanahan's changes to the ArrayStack class. Craig added a copy of > ArrayStack as o.a.c.d.ArrayStack, to remove the dependency on > commons-collections. But this creates a binary compatibility; because > the field is protect

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread Simon Kitching
> personally speaking, i'd gladly support anyone who had the energy to > push a digester 2 project forward. IMHO the digester one design has > been pushed just about as far as it can. starting digester 2 would > allow free refactoring without having to worry about binary > compatibility (and d

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread Simon Kitching
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 10:02, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 25 Jul 2004, at 17:37, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:07:53 +1200, Simon Kitching > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Do you know of any containers that actually do use Digester and make > >> it > >> visibl

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 25 Jul 2004, at 17:37, Craig McClanahan wrote: On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:07:53 +1200, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you know of any containers that actually do use Digester and make it visible to containee code? Good question. definitely know? no i do seem to vaguely recall that so

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 23 Jul 2004, at 00:56, Simon Kitching wrote: On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 10:09, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 22 Jul 2004, at 01:27, Simon Kitching wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 08:54, robert burrell donkin wrote: So I'm currently in favour of upgrading the BeanUtils dependency. However I'd like to

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-25 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:07:53 +1200, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've thought some more about this. > > Why exactly would a container expose Digester to the "containees"? > > If a container wants to use Digester to parse its configuration files, > then that is an internal matter

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-24 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 11:56, Simon Kitching wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 10:09, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2004, at 01:27, Simon Kitching wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 08:54, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not generally a great supporter of binary compa

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-22 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 10:09, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 22 Jul 2004, at 01:27, Simon Kitching wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 08:54, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > >> one important issue are the dependencies: in particular, disposing > >> with > >> the commons collection dependenc

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 22 Jul 2004, at 13:51, Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, hi Yoav My take on this is probably overly simplistic, but I'll state it anyways: - It Digester depends on BeanUtils at all, it should depend on the latest version. digester needs to depend on beanutils but we've tried to give the user as large a

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 22 Jul 2004, at 01:27, Simon Kitching wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 08:54, robert burrell donkin wrote: one important issue are the dependencies: in particular, disposing with the commons collection dependency (which prevents compatibility with both 2.x and 3.x). i can see two possibilities: e

Re: [digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-21 Thread Simon Kitching
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 08:54, robert burrell donkin wrote: > now that the beanutils release is reaching toward completion, i'm > turning towards the digester release. the release branch was created a > while ago but there are still some thing which need to be decided. Woohoo!! > > one important

[digester] dependencies for 1.6 release

2004-07-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
now that the beanutils release is reaching toward completion, i'm turning towards the digester release. the release branch was created a while ago but there are still some thing which need to be decided. one important issue are the dependencies: in particular, disposing with the commons collect