a note to this affect to the Describe the overall activity
in the project over the past quarter. bullet in
http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/reporting
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are too high. I
can live with that.
For some projects, the barriers to entry at the ASF are too low. I
can live with that too.
I hope that projects that are a perfect match to the ASF find a good
home here. I hope that the projects which are not a good match to the
ASF find what they need.
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this discussion:
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/09/13/One-True-Way
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Torsten Curdt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm I was about to write the same as Noirin but I have only been reading
planetapache via newsreader which makes skipping such posts much easier :)
Going onto the site I tend to agree with you
://tim.oreilly.com/articles/paradigmshift_0504.html
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with their new homes.
Now... may Avalon finally Rest In Peace? Please?
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need to start at the same place
as Stefano indicated.
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 28 September 2004 20:27, Sam Ruby wrote:
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Rightly or wrongly so, the tone of competition in Avalon was set well
before the emergence of Merlin. That was bad. So now the train was
moving, and noone pulled the breaks, not any individual
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 28 September 2004 22:08, Sam Ruby wrote:
Hindsight is easy, and I am not sure whether your intention is to punish
parts (not all) of those who made it happen, plus some people who hasn't
been involved (for instance commercial users).
The intent is not to punish
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Since you don't seem sensible to common sense
[snip]
Just don't expect to change people, as it will never happen, especially
if you are attacking them.
Consider taking your own advice.
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Software Foundation will allow to be listed as an official mirror.
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interested parties. This new committee is chaired by Brian Fitzpatrick.
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themselves should be
demanding to be on the pmc (rather than 'release managers must be on the
pmc' as an edict).
I *like* that interpretation.
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age ;-)
Anyway, such a site would be *SUPER ILLEGAL* in europe and, I'll tell
you what, my gut feeling is that I'd really like it to remain so.
That guy does exist.
Want to see something scary? Type in Sam Ruby NC in google. You will
find both of us, along with phone number and address
you can prove a negative (i.e., that you had access to such
information but never actually took advantage of it), is beyond me.
What should we call this proposed list?
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this before. The list is has no Sun employees on it.
It has only Apache members. They make decisions on behalf of the ASF.
You can choose to no longer be a member of the ASF. You can choose
not to participate. At the moment, you have chosen the former and not
the latter.
-Andy
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a project (i.e., submitting a
resolution to the board) can be used to ammend a project.
-- jt
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benefit from doing so here?
3) A challenge to the Maven developers: what would it take to convert
Xalan to use Maven? The reason for this challenge is simple: to
demonstrate the the antipathy towards other ASF efforts is damaging not
only to the ASF, but to Maven itself.
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Now that the initial board discussion on the Maven resolution has
been held, a few thoughts...
1) It was made quite clear to me by a number of directors that it
is expected that I have an interest and opinion on topics
by the board.
The idea of such committer initiated proposals do not concern me, unless
such proposals attempt to establish responsibility for items that are
within the scope of other, existing projects.
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Jason as a committer to Alexandria (where Gump was at the
time, and Maven initially formed). I supported his movement of Maven
from Alexandria to Turbine. And now I have indicated that I will
abstain when the actual board vote is held on Maven becoming a top level
project.
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Jason van
My opinion is that the board should take this suggestion very seriously.
Original Message
Subject: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary
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compensating benefit
before I would consider making such things a requirement. By necessity,
such decisions need to be made on a case by case basis.
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above. Protocols
(such as XML RPC or SOAP) are fine.
ISTR code being removed from PHP due to such considerations, but it has
been a while since I have been involved with that project.
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this resolved.
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that it is removed from the repository
(being careful to make sure we don't break build procedures, updating
docs, etc.)
Confirmed.
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I'll batch up and forward to the board and/or licensing folk.
By the board meeting after that (3rd week in March), I'd like to have
the infrastructure issues resolved (where should this data should be
hosted, mirrored, etc).
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up and forward to the board and/or licensing folk.
By the board meeting after that (3rd week in March), I'd like to have
the infrastructure issues resolved (where should this data should be
hosted, mirrored, etc).
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not be any different than using EMACs. Preferably, the build should
skip this step if checkstyle is not available.
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Repetively click on in.
ICBM, eh? Gulp.
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and there likely
isn't any IP issues, I don't see the point of incubation in this case.
I'd say use committers CVS and community mailing list for now. If/when
it become a full fledged project, simply present a resolution to the board.
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the opportunity to discuss a problem that they are
working on.
2) This being said, no *DECISIONS* should be made on behalf of projects
in this manner. In particular, VOTES should be on mailing list unless
there is consensus by all the participants otherwise.
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embroiled in this dicussion).
It certainly is easier to migrate content that exists, even if it is in
the wrong format, than content that does not exist.
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/...)
It would really be nice if the Maven/Gump/Forrest/Trove/etc. descriptors
could be converged. With a base vocabulary that all can share, and an
ability to have namespace qualified tool extensions.
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P.S. Gump is capable of running anything that can be run via the
command line and produces
/viewcvs.cgi/site/xdocs/foundation/members.xml
As a member, you have commit access.
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://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/team-list.html
If this were done, I would gladly aggregate the results back into the
ASF wide committer list.
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Ken's entry as his information looked a bit more complete
than others).
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to contribute specific proposals along
these lines?
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a such information all in one place.
If I get time, I might take a pass at Sam's perl script and tweaking it
accordingly. If someone beats me, great. =)
Other than that, it's a great step in the right direction! Go Sam! =)
Thanks!
- Sam Ruby
P.S. I posted some meta commentary on this discussion
www.apache.org
where only a few do)
A very small adjustment to the proposal: make community.apache.org/~name
redirect to ~name/public_html/community or some such. This makes it
completely opt-in. Those that don't want to participate, are not affected.
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for e-mail for quite some time.
Would the mere act of putting a one line .forward file into your
~/public_html directory with your favorite URL be OK?
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Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example: http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
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My opinions exactly match Ken's below.
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
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since it won't affect *you* in any way.
(generic 'you' there, not anyone in mind at all.
The ASF I wish to be a part of is one and/or create is one that
tolerates differences in points of view or approach to solving problems.
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, or be incorporated inside an existing community as long as
all participants in that larger community are treated as peers.
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be trusted to
do as they are told.
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of design
choices. Generally what occurs is one dies of natural causes. In other
cases, a merge occurs as the ultimately it becomes possible to
objectively determine if some of the promised benefits are fact or fantasy.
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the clarification request).
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probably be better. I actually would recommend that
this glossary goes a bit further and defines vote and veto as both imply
specific obligations that may not be obvious to someone not familiar
with the ASF.
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Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
It would be nice if other people gave Rob a hand and maybe we expanded
this to a wider scope..
Just so people can see examples of what the finished product looks like
each month: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/
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subproject to become a top level project.
Of course, people involved may voluntarily chose to change their status
to emeritus, but are under no obligation to do so.
Thoughts?
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
First of all, I was very happy to see that 'openness' doesn't appear to
be a quality of any particular group of people. I perceive this somewhat
reducing the value of Sam's thesis that jakarta has an 'open' attitude
that the rest of the ASF doesn't have.
+1
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care
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Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Interestingly, this vote also helps crystalize who we think the Apache
community really is.
+1
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