Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-07 Thread Ted Husted
cumentation. * The "Community Guidelines" could be placed at apache.org under "Get Involved", next to the Mailing List page. * The "Example Project Guidelines" could be placed at incubator.apache.org under "Other Guides",. * The first part of the "ASF Cu

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I keep being surprised at the vehemence of feelings against writing > down any sort of documentation that's non-technical... I didn't mean to suggest that I oppose any of the work that Ted, you or anyone else has done to document the fuzzy side of Apac

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: With "play nice", it's obvious that we're all interpreting things, but with the attempted code of conduct there's an impression that it is definitive and that I'm supposed to understand

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-01 Thread Thomas Vandahl
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > 4? w.r.t. style of specific authors, doesn't the project aim to have one >consistent style? If author tags can encourage folks to adopt their own >style in lieu of following a project-wide style, isn't this an issue? Well, there is formal code style which may

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Thomas Vandahl wrote: > > Why is the use of author tags discouraged? I found these to be valuable > information when trying to understand a piece of code, simply by > recognizing the style of a certain author. 1. once committed, it isn't your code, it's the project's code. (Not from a copyrig

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-01 Thread Thomas Vandahl
Ted Husted wrote: > Any comments would be very welcome. Is that document supposed to be published outside the ASF? If so, I'd suggest to stress the fact (again) that discussions on a public mailing list are being archived and available for everyone to see. Every once in a while we still see thes

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: > > The example project guidelines and cultural principles were added to > put the draft community guidelines into context. Though, we might not > want to post all three items together as a block. Yea - I'm sort of confused. I'm looking to inject two mo

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-30 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/30/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This isn't a Code of Conduct, it's a top-level description of our ethos. Yes, that's how it turned out. I started out to research a code of conduct, and came back with a set of community guidelines that describe

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
of >> conduct. A working draft of a set of "Community Guidelines" is >> available on the incubator wiki, >> >> * http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct >> >> Any comments would be very welcome. > > So... I really dislike the BlogHer code

Re: Community Guidelines

2007-06-29 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With "play nice", it's obvious that we're all interpreting things, but > with the attempted code of conduct there's an impression that it is > definitive and that I'm supposed to understand it all. This is one of my concerns too. Our culture is not a

Re: Community Guidelines

2007-06-29 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone suggest a patch? I've changed to it to the following: Individuals who provide source code and documentation to the ASF should submit a Contributor's License Agreement. Source code and documentation must be under the Apache License and

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-29 Thread Ted Husted
Can someone suggest a patch? On 6/29/07, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > I have a question about this part of the guidelines: > >> Project source code and documentation must be donated to the ASF >> under a >> >> Contributor's L

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On 6/28/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of conduct. A working draft of a set of "Community Guidelines" is available on the incubator wiki, * http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct Any commen

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: I have a question about this part of the guidelines: Project source code and documentation must be donated to the ASF under a Contributor's License Agreement. Donated source code and documentation must carry the ASF copyright and be pla

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Craig L Russell wrote: > >>> Donated source code and >>> documentation must carry the ASF copyright and be placed under the >>> Apache License. Code and documentation donated to the ASF must be >>> maintained on ASF hardware. Obtaining a non-exclusive ASF copyright on

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Craig L Russell wrote: > I have a question about this part of the guidelines: > >> Project source code and documentation must be donated to the ASF under a >> Contributor's License Agreement. This just absolutely clarifies the intent of the author, it's the simplest method of conveying your-code

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread Craig L Russell
quirement was to simply license it to ASF under ASL v2.0. Craig On Jun 28, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Ted Husted wrote: Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of conduct. A working draft of a set of "Community Guidelines" is available on the incubator wiki, * http:/

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread Danny Angus
On 6/28/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any comments would be very welcome. At first glance I say Nice Work Ted (or whomever), long overdue and a mature and considered distillation of What We Think. No doubt a further reading will reveal nits :-) I think that leaving this as an evol

Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread Ted Husted
Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of conduct. A working draft of a set of "Community Guidelines" is available on the incubator wiki, * http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct Any comments would be very welc