Re: web browser

Hello, - Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device. - And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some "community love" ;-) Best regards, 2007/1/23, Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello. Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web

Re: Free Your Phone

He said what? Christ, give me Richard Stallman any day. Renaissance Man On 24 Jan 2007, at 1:03 am, Marcus Bauer wrote: Linus Torvalds once jokingly said: "I am your god". ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lis

Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?"

Hi, On Wednesday 24 January 2007 01:47, Justyn Butler wrote: > So my answer to your question is: perhaps not from your USB memory > stick, but you will be able to upgrade the flash chip if you've a > little experience with surface mount hacking. You cannot simply replace chips like that. The S3C2

Pictures of Neo1973 under GFDL for wikipedia

Sean, I was trying to create an article on the Wikipedia about OpenMoko. The english version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko) has a nice picture on the left. Unfortunately this picture is licensed as 'fair use'. Which means that it is not allowed to use it in the Dutch version and probably

Re: Pictures of Neo1973 under GFDL for wikipedia

On 1/24/07 4:39 PM, "Marc Verwerft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can we use the pictures at the openmoko site in wikipedia (all languages) with > the permission of FIC under the GNU Free Documentation License > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL )? Please do!

Re: web browser

On 24.01.07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, - Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device. - And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some "community love" ;-) Is Gtk-Web Core still being maintained? I was of the

sorry s/FPGA/BGA/g Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?"

Salve Justyn! Justyn Butler schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 00:47h: > Firstly apologies if I've misunderstood what you're saying. :) When it' my failing... > But I think it > is: "can I use the flash chip from inside a USB memory stick to upgrade the > neo1973 flash?" yes > Once I ge

Re: sorry s/FPGA/BGA/g Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?"

Hi ! On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:16, Robert Michel wrote: > > Once I get my hands on one of these babies the first thing I'm going > > to be doing is taking it to pieces, and I can pretty much guarantee > > once we see the flash chip we'll be able to find a compatible > > replacement. But surf

short answer - other feedback is wellcome Re: g quastions

Salve Eugene! I'm just a student and normal member on this mailinglist, so I don't know more than it was written on this list since November. On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Eugene Kozlov wrote: > Hello > Can somebody explain > What is about hardware licensing? Also open source? (shared pcb > schematics, e

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, "kkr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's > chips on the market now? About US$3. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lis

Re: web browser

I am not sure if Gtk-WebCore is alive, but it seems to be, since GPE-Minibrowser seems alive. Check gtk-webcore site[1] and mailing list[2] for more info. [1] http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=121646 2007/1/24, Alexander McLeay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On

hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

Salve, the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. So for beening on the road, it could be nice to be able to use a USB flash drive directly. Our first idea was to hack the Neo1973 and give some power to the port. Another idea would to solder some capacitor into the memory drive, maybe w

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, "kkr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's > > chips on the market now? > > About US$3. Are they good enough to twice integrate the acceleration data

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Hi! On 1/24/07, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le mardi 23 janvier 2007 à 22:15 -0400, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa a écrit : > Hi! > > Too much trouble.. the phone could get "confused" when you > walk/run/jump, or when you are in a car/bus. Perhaps, can we use it as a command sets in a

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: > Maybe with a small USB connector to avoid the need for an adapter > to use with the Neo1973? Just putting the small USB jack on the other side and the USB memory drive becomes dual use. With small or big jack. Would this c

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

* Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070123 17:04]: > Robert Michel writes: > > > >Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to pickup the phone. you are quite allowed to touch the phone, explicitly: D: We

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/24/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, "kkr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's > > chips on the market now? > > About US$3. Are

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

* Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070123 17:58]: > So I haven't found a right source for this, the adac.de link hasn't > an official law text and isn't about the point "general aproval" and > mobiles without external antenna - it is only about the official > requirements to free speak systems.

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: > > Robert Michel writes: > > > > > >Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil > > Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to > pickup the phone. you are quite

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Salve Jose! Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 08:44h: > >For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is > >ringing... > > If the command were "shake to phone to answer", I could accidentally > answer the phone while I play with my kids!

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

* Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070124 14:01]: > Salve Andreas! > > Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: > > > > Robert Michel writes: > > > > > > > >Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil > > > > Ok, I think that's a case of

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

* Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070124 14:52]: > I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that > a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac > article claims that it's ok to use a mobile, if you don't have to pick > it up. E.g. buttons and voi

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Hi! On 1/24/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salve Jose! Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 08:44h: > >For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is > >ringing... > > If the command were "shake to phone to answer", I could

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

Hi Sean, On 23/01/07, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states "in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU." He also clearly stated "We'll just call it OpenMoko." Could you confirm that if FIC writes that Ope

Itch1: Spell weaving

Multi-touch demo at http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/index.html is cool. However I feel that these are just first steps on the mountain of inventions that are possible with multi-touch. hmm.. 3D multi gesture ... 2 high resolution cameras and .. ;-) and then suddenly using your ce

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +battery +small usb jack

Salve! ok, foget my capacitor idea... the capacitor would not have much power after some hours - and charging it every day would be Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: > the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. > So for beening on the road, it could be

Re: web browser

Hi, There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo such as Dillo and Skipstone. Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be another alternative. Pedro Aguilar > Hello. > > Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with >

Re: Several suggestions/observations/questions... I think that I may be too late, but....

3. Ok, I will grant the "wifi" issue to "low power"... but, why not EDGE?, why just GPRS?... I think I know the answer: price, but: is the difference so large?. I think that the first generation Neo won't have WiFi support because the developer could not find a chip whose vendor would allow GPL

Re: Neo1973 "Car kit" - some pittfalls due laws possible?

Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:49h: > * Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070124 14:01]: > > Salve Andreas! > > > > Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: > > > > > > Robert Michel writes: > > > > > > > > > >Since la

Re: web browser

Perhaps, but: - They seem to be based in "old" Gtk 1.x. Dillo was the web browser for GPE until GPE got 2.x and Dillo didn't update. - Do they support SSL connections? Best regards, 2007/1/24, Pedro Aguilar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run

Re: web browser

> Hi, > > There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo > such as Dillo and Skipstone. > Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be > another alternative. AFAIK, none of those has support for javascript and DOM. Which make those not very us

Ok, one point is cleard - but what is with the external antenna and the general operation lizence of the car?

Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:58h: > * Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070124 14:52]: > > I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that > > a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac > > articl

RE: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

I think it's a fantastic idea too. The motion of putting a phone in your pocket could likely be specific enough to train the phone to turn off. Or it could identify when it is floating loose vs. being held to your ear, to automatically lock. Another application would be monitoring a kids u

consider to use a proxy Re: web browser

Salve! On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with > javascript machine, etc)? Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing. So a Proxy on the Ne

Re: Several suggestions/observations/questions... I think that I may be too late, but....

Hi! On 1/24/07, Alessandro Iurlano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Ok, I will grant the "wifi" issue to "low power"... but, why not > EDGE?, why just GPRS?... I think I know the answer: price, but: is the > difference so large?. > > I think that the first generation Neo won't have WiFi suppor

Re: Ok, one point is cleard - but what is with the external antenna and the general operation lizence of the car?

* Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070124 15:50]: > Ahh "holding in his hand" - so when it is fixed with a cradel it is > still allowed to touch it. :))) Exactly, it's the same in the StVO §1a ;) btw, I'm all for an external antenna connector. I haven't yet tried it, but I've got the tip, that

Re: Several suggestions/observations/questions... I think that I may be too late, but....

Hi, again. I almost forgot a really important suggestion/worry: The Agenda VR3 had a MAJOR issue with the case: it was too fragile. This is a phone, it WILL be dropped SEVERAL TIMES, so you need to make sure it survives. Yes, that goes for the screen too. It is very important, I wouldn't like

verizon and openmoko

Just wanted to see if anyone knows whether or not the OpenMoko phone would work with Verizon? I have attempted to research what protocols Verizon supports, and it appears that they use EVDO and CDMA, technology which isn't supported on this phone. I was highly excited about the product until it s

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Clearly future OpenMoko phones should be able to perceive their environments. Proximity sensor for the face side of an OpenMoko phone. When triggered the OpenMoko can activate a power-savings profile. An accelerometer. The OpenMoko can operate differently depending on its physical orientation. GP

Re: Several suggestions/observations/questions... I think that I may be too late, but....

I am pretty sure that 2nd and 3rd generation OpenMokos will have cameras and WiFi. At this point, I care more for a phone that will work as advertised. And for a long enough trial period to work at the biggest bugs. Let's help getting OpenMoko stable and useful so even my grandma can use it. Then

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, "kkr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's chips on the market now? About US$3. Are they good enough to tw

Re: Several suggestions/observations/questions... I think that I may be too late, but....

Hi! The thing is: Even some of the cheapest moviles now include a camera, I think that the lack of it will make you lose sells. On 1/24/07, Gervais Mulongoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am pretty sure that 2nd and 3rd generation OpenMokos will have cameras and WiFi. At this point, I care more

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass module in the phone Right? Cause accelerometers don't know which direction your pointing and gps isn't probably accurate enough to derive what you pointed at when you moved it maybe 2 or 3 feet during the gesture.

Re: verizon and openmoko

or just buy another account on another carrier ;) get their 'cheapest' plan. But I believe the Neo will only work on Cingular & TMobile in the US. On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wanted to see if anyone knows whether or not the OpenMoko phone would work with Veriz

RE: verizon and openmoko

It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset just for the USA, it's a dieing technology and GSM is more widely operated in almost all countries outside of the USA. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney i

Re: Itch1: Spell weaving

Hello, I like your idea of spell weaving very much. Unfortunately... Latest word seems to be that Neo1973 will be single touch only and this is hardware limitation. ...which is sad. I suppose the neo1973 is using a resistive touch-screen. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Technologi

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On 23/01/07, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Free software existed before GNU - Free software philosophies and movements existed before GNU - Free software will continue to exist after GNU - Free software philosophies and movements will continue to exist after GNU - GNU is not the One Tr

Re: verizon and openmoko

Well, obviously I'd be better of just canceling my Verizon account so that I can transfer my number to a carrier that supports GSM. Thanks for the info! > or just buy another account on another carrier ;) get their 'cheapest' > plan. > > But I believe the Neo will only work on Cingular & TMobile

RE: verizon and openmoko

I wasn't asking if it made sense, just if anyone knew if I could use the phone on Verizon. No need to defend the decision to just use GSM...I personally leave the blame on Verizon for not keeping up with technology. thanks though, -mark > It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset jus

GSM Networks in the USA

I keep seeing people say that the only Cellphone companies that will support OpenMoko are Cingular and T-Mobile. I feel like I need to correct thi. Cingular and T-Mobile are not the only GSM carriers, they are the only NATIONAL GSM carriers. In fact, there are 62 GSM based carriers in the Unite

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

Gosh, why does this fail to surprise me? Didn't you get to say your piece already? Why don't you harass the Ubuntu folks with this, hm? There are many more folks calling it "Linux" than "GNU/Linux", and very few people who seem to care strongly about your over-developed sense of "history" and "eth

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

Could you just drop this line of discussion, or pursue it off-list...? If they refer to it as "Linux" they'll be in line with pretty much every major _Linux_ distribution out there. On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sean, > > On 23/01/07, David Ford <[EMAIL PRO

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:15, Dave Crossland wrote: > I feel it is misleading to describe code distributed in the 1960s and > 70s as 'free software' - because software freedom was not recognised > or enshrined. Ok, now that's just being ridiculous. And besides, the BSDL predates the GPLv1

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote: > For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass > module in the phone I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not sure how an accelerometer would help figuring out what direction t

Re: verizon and openmoko

The other major problem - if FIC made a CDMA OpenMoko phone, Verizon would have to explicitly allow it's use, which would probably not happen. Verizon has a tight level of control over phones - they will have their own UI installed and Bluetooth file transfers etc turned off. Simply, Verizon['s

OpenMoko and Multimedia

Hi everyone, Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support. The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing is specified in terms of the multimedia side apart from saying that there is a 'media play

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/24/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote: > For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass > module in the phone I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not sure how an

Re: web browser

Hi, Sometime ago there was a patch for Dillo (when it was still alpha) for supporting SSL. However, I don't know of any open-source browser for embedded systems based on GTK+ 2 that supports SSL and Javascript, so this could be an interesting project. Pedro Aguilar > Perhaps, but: > > - They see

When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" wrote: > Hi Sean, > > On 23/01/07, David Ford wrote: >> You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states >> "in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU." He also >> clearly stated "We'll just call it OpenMoko." > > Co

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > The accelerometer can allow you to know what directions the phone > "went", and 3d orientation (rotations and stuff). The compass, would > just be for "calibration", because you can trust them all them time > (just put a

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/24/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be ideal to have a 3 axis accelerometer and a 3 axis tilt sensor like the wii. Apparently the wii controller uses an IR sensor to keep itself oriented relative to the game console; since the phone doesn't have IR this wouldn't be possi

Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures? --pj ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/ma

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Yeah.. I was using the accelerometer in my example to tell the program what the phone orientation was so that you could limit distance without having to touch the interface. If you had it set up to run from a free external button, you could push it And orient the phone and point and the phone c

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go and get the folks at "GNU" to change the name of their system to "GNU/Mach" and _then_ come back to talk to _us_. I might ask about that alright. Why don't you ha

Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and desist - "YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos available on mobile phones": http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_mobile_video_encoder/ If we have a browser with Flash support capab

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go >> and get the folks at "GNU" to change the name of their system to "GNU/Mach" >> and _then_ come

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Richard Franks wrote: > The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and > desist - "YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos > available on mobile phones": > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_m

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go >> and get the folks at "GNU" to chang

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation instead? So freedom has nothing to do with it? I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean alright, but IF you just wrote an apt description of "our Agenda"

Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote: > How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for > 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures? Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too complex.. for slightly

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote: > Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely... I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approach is to have the manufacturer ne

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

Declan Naughton wrote: On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go >> and get t

camera in the next version ? (for augmented reality app)

I'm working on augmented reality (marker based) platform for mobiles, and OpenMoko looks interesting. However lack of camera is a bummer. Are there any interes for the camera in the next version, or I'm only one who would like to see it ? Camera have other uses too like barcode reading, may be

Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

That is brilliant. As the parent of an 11-year old, I'd want a highly configurable profile: * Allow calls to/from (parents/grandparents/babysitter/etc.) anytime * Allow calls to/from (list of friends) between 4pm and 9pm weekdays, 10-10pm weekends only * Allow a maximum of (x) outgoing calls to

Re: GSM Networks in the USA

Interesting information - thanks for the links & correction! :) On 1/24/07, Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I keep seeing people say that the only Cellphone companies that will support OpenMoko are Cingular and T-Mobile. I feel like I need to correct thi. Cingular and T-Mobile are

RE: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids! Some of the high schools here have really strict rules against kids getting calls in class. I can understand it, but 1)Sometimes I need to contact my daughter and 2)She can't always remember how she left the ringer (on/off) So

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

Richard Franks wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote: Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely... I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approac

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

On 1/24/07, Raymond Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> Better still, tell yo

Viewing video sites on Moko

ke, 2007-01-24 kello 18:16 +, Al Johnson kirjoitti: > Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely... In the context of getting video off of youtube or some other video sites, eg. keepvid.com offers a service that deciphers the .flv (or what have you) URL from the main site

Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel.. No, they're certainly not. However, "GNU" _is_ and they're failing to give appropriate credit to the "principal developer" of their system. So on what basis

RE: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote: I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids! Not yet, no. My daughter gets my current phone as soon as I get the Neo 1973 (unless my wife wants it - she has priority.) My daughter gets my Neo V1 when V2 comes out! My goal of a

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation > > instead? > > So freedom has nothing to do with it? > > I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff fr

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel.. No, they're certainly not. However, "GNU" _is_ and they're failing to give appropriate credit to th

Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

Well, but what about any free-lessons? I know your problem very well, being a student myself. I tried to solve it like you did, coding an application which selects - depending on the cell-id my phone supplies - the right profile. But I often get calls in times we have no school. The phone just don

Re: camera in the next version ? (for augmented reality app)

From a personal standpoint I'd like to see a camera in the next version, because I use the 2MP one in my phone very frequently. It's handy to have a camera of some sort with me 100% of the time to catch random events - of course it doesn't replace a real camera for situations where I can plan to

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel.. >> >> No, they're certai

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation > > instead? > > So freedom has nothing to do with it? > >

Ready For Prime Time?

I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to go? What about the multi-point touch screen? It's wonderful, but doesn't Apple have a patent on that? Dunc ___

Re: Ready For Prime Time?

On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to go? I believe so. From http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001586.html :

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement > > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation > > for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's right, but this positive message > > was compl

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not

Re: OpenMoko and Multimedia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian F.K. Schaller schreef: > Hi everyone, > Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone > I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support. > > The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing

Re: OpenMoko and Multimedia

On 1/24/07 11:47 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd certainly push for gstreamer... As would I, but sometimes you've just gotta get things out the door... I'd assume that when FIC gets hardware out, someone'll make it run gstreamer in pretty short order. __

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement > > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation > > for Ubiquitous Computing - I t

Re: Free This Mailing List!

Please do not personally CC: me on this silly thread. I am subscribed to the list. I don't wish to continue this ludicrous debate because the agenda pushing doesn't belong on this list and there's no point to it when "free software" is "only the idea of free software as established by GNU in

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

Here is my reason for using the term "GNU/Linux". It's fair to both the Linux developers and to the GNU project. Why is it fair? Well so far I have yet to see either a Linux userland or a GNU kernel so it's a MIXED environment and should be treated like that. There are also other MIXED environm

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

Not sure if this fits the bill, but: Gnash is a GNU Flash movie player http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote: > Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely... I wondered a

Re: Ready For Prime Time?

On 1/24/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to > see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to > go? I believe so. From http://lists.o

How to get involved (HELP!!!)

I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please eith

Squeak for the kids! Use Linux-vserver power before giving your Neo to a kid (or someone else) Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

Salve Sam! On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote: > I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids! In case that I would have kids, I wouldn't either, it is because of the price, but also because it isn't rough enough. Some more stuff for kids: see my mail "OpenMoko/Neo1973 i

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