Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-07 Thread Gianluigi
Alle 01:16, sabato 26 luglio 2008, Thomas B. ha scritto: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:44:37PM +0200, AVee wrote: > > On Friday 25 July 2008 10:54, arne anka wrote: > > > i got a 4 gig card too (can't say if from intenso, have to check the > > > wrapping). > > > my card's boot sector is not erased b

Re: GPRS working with SIMYO

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Michael Kluge wrote: > Hi all, > > Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection: > > > Jul 23 09:16:59 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: expect (CONNECT) > Jul 23 09:16:59 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: ^M > Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: ATDT*99***1#^M^M > Jul 23 09:17:05

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from > OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and > people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in > bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece. Yes, that

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Olivier Berger
Benedikt Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rod Whitby schrieb: >> So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will >> certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which >> definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct >> branch.

Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

2008-08-07 Thread C R McClenaghan
I've been away from home since this thread began. I tried to learn in the meantime a little bit about the mdbus *PDP* per Mickey's suggestion, but I'm not there yet. What I have working seems to allow multiplexing of data and voice through gsm multiplexor, however more than 2 "calls" of eit

Re: FSO: settings and profiles

2008-08-07 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Matt Joyce wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> And there is a profile switcher planned I hope? >>> >> I just can't let go of the idea of having several profiles activated at >> the same time, so I'll spam you all once more (last time, I

Re: /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?

2008-08-07 Thread C R McClenaghan
Regarding the xserver update, I was able to get it to load by unloading (remove) and then loading it (install). After the remove, opkg pickd up the newer version without use of force options. Chris On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:14 AM, Sven Klomp wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 11:00:41 Eildert G

Australian Second Group Purchase

2008-08-07 Thread Simon Matthews
The Australian second group purchase of Freerunners is making good progress. We still have a few unsold phones out of the batch of fifty that Openmoko have reserved for us. These will be shipped from China as soon as we send the money. Current indications are that the price will be around $440 for

Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Brad Midgley wrote: > Hey > > Looks like there still was no page so I created it: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking > > I didn't see how to add it to the technical category. Maybe someone > can help out there. > Thanks Brad, I just finished 3 days of talking non-stop about Openmoko a

Re: A brief summary from LinuxWorld

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jeffrey Malone wrote: > I was one of many volunteers that showed up to help out OpenMoko at > their two booths at LinuxWorld here in San Francisco over the past three > days. > > Speaking from my "officially uninformed" status, I would say that the > entire event was a huge success. Both boo

Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Fredrik Wendt wrote: > ons 2008-08-06 klockan 21:07 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh: >> C R McClenaghan wrote: >>> I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS >>> working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it matters. >>> >> >>> I'll post something to

Re: AT&T sim card not working, Tmobile does

2008-08-07 Thread Paul Buede
Adam Talbot wrote: > I can second that. The 74321O 4022 works, most of the time. None of > the other 74321X card work. I played dumb and went to the AT&T store. > I printed out the ATT OpenMoko Wiki page and highlighted the card I > needed. I gave it to the tech and stated "that was the card a

Re: FSO: settings and profiles

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
Matt Joyce wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> And there is a profile switcher planned I hope? >>> >> I just can't let go of the idea of having several profiles activated at >> the same time, so I'll spam you all once more (last time, I

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Craig B. Allen
I submitted ticket #79. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. > Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote > above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not targeted > to fullfill all user

A brief summary from LinuxWorld

2008-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Malone
I was one of many volunteers that showed up to help out OpenMoko at their two booths at LinuxWorld here in San Francisco over the past three days. Speaking from my "officially uninformed" status, I would say that the entire event was a huge success. Both booths always seemed crowded -- attracting

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you're complaining about? /jOERG Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Joshua Broussard: > Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material > protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on > page. > > R/ Josh > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
> The is technically wrong. Trolltech had already done the 'porting to > X' > work as an experiment/internal demo. Correct. Lorn, let's not argue over who deserves more credit. Of course first of all Trolltech developed Qt, then Qtopia. Then you did the experimental port to X but did not fin

Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

2008-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Malone
I just spent the last three days with two guys from Koolu at LinuxWorld (a post from me about this is coming). I can tell you the guys were definitely legit, and that if their customer service is anything like the two reps, it will be well above par. They are based in Canada, however, not the US

Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

2008-08-07 Thread xaos x
I ordered mine from them. Got it in a couple of weeks. You'll need to sign for it when you get it so, unless you're home when it arrives, be prepared to visit your post office to pick it up. They ship it CA ExpressPost, which interfaces with USPS. AS for the phone, it was the same Freerunner wit

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
This is what seems to happen for me on 2007.2 on the Oz vodafone network. Sent an sms (didnt ask for rx) to the phone after it had been in dim&lock for a couple of hours. No indication of message - phone didnt wakeup. On actually waking phone, by pressing pwr button some 10 minutes after sendin

FSO oeventsd and rules

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Guillaume Chereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just for your information, with the new events system, it will soon be > different. You will have to edit the rule.yaml file. It looks like this > now : > > - ># This rule will play a ring tone when a call is incomi

Re: SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
Bug submitted https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1757 On Thursday 07 August 2008 19:02:21 Daniel Benoy wrote: > Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat :  T : "AT+CMGL=4" > Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat :  F : "+CMS ERROR: 321" > Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtCh

Re: FSO: settings and profiles

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And there is a profile switcher planned I hope? > > I just can't let go of the idea of having several profiles activated at > the same time, so I'll spam you all once more (last time, I promise). > > Locations: > - work >

Re: SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
Maybe this explains it? Recently: I had 3 messages. I deleted 2 of them. I get another message, and it looks for message number 4, even though this is message number 2 now? On Thursday 07 August 2008 19:02:21 Daniel Benoy wrote: > I just tried sending myself an SMS under ASU (updated from > d

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
Between Kevin Dean's commentary and Wolfgang's response, there's more information than can be found in a day of trawling threads and rummaging in the wiki. Bravo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/

Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I got one from Koolu and it's a completely stock model. Apparently they can't yet afford the special silk screened Debian tartan weave, and they can't yet get debian+android running on the phones, so the version I got was the same one everyone else is getting. They ship from Canada, so you may

Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Van Fossen
I've been trying to purchase a new 850 Freerunner for almost 2 weeks now, but as you already know the openmoko online store still says they are to arrive on July 25th... The only two US distributors are Koolu, and gp2xstore.com. Gp2xstore.com only lists the Neo 1973 - not freerunner, and has

SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I just tried sending myself an SMS under ASU (updated from downloads.openmoko.org yesterday) and something strange is happening. I don't see my text messages, and I'm getting a lot of this in my logs: Aug 7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat : T : "AT+CMGL=4" Aug 7 18:54:30 lisa use

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-07 Thread Fredrik Wendt
tor 2008-08-07 klockan 20:27 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > > Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I > > disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that > > there's no network

FSO: settings and profiles

2008-08-07 Thread Fredrik Wendt
> And there is a profile switcher planned I hope? I just can't let go of the idea of having several profiles activated at the same time, so I'll spam you all once more (last time, I promise). Locations: - work - home - cinema - lecture hall - hospital - amusement park Activities: - coding (def

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Alasal
Great ;) Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: >> Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: >> > Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and >> > component placements for the GTA01. >> > >> > Let the GTA01 run free and continue to imp

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for all the explanation. Now a lot of things are more clear. Continue your wonderful job! Michele Renda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQF

Re: FSO email/ical clients?

2008-08-07 Thread arne anka
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:50:13 and arrived right now ... > That bz2 is missing ipk for libaspell. > > claws-mail: error while loading shared libraries: libaspell.so.15: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > Thought I'd tell you in case you wanted to know/fix. well, since

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Joshua Broussard
Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on page. R/ Josh On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: >> Am So 20. Juli 2008 s

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GREAT CATCH! > > are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please > update the thread whenever you try it? > Yep.. I ordered/it shipped exactly a week ago, so it should be here next week (shipping

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Matt
> But, in the framework we want to include a full customizable events > system, that will be useful when you want to programs context rules, > like : when I enter into my house, set profile to Silent, etc... > So the moment we use this mechanism to start and stop the ring tone. > Maybe in the f

Re: FSO wifi power control

2008-08-07 Thread C R McClenaghan
There is if I recall correctly. Search the wiki for mdbus. I think there is an object and a method for that. You can then use mdbus on the object. mdbus --help or mdbus -a for usage and available options. Chris McClenaghan -- Hand-crafted mail -- My other phone is an OpenMoko. On Aug 7, 2

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Matt
Got me too. To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Dimitri wrote: > You misunderstood me. > > NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the >

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Charles Pax
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. > > cheers > > jOERG > > > > added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 > see > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg > and > http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ > > f

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Edwin Lock
Hi! Thanks for sharing the information! I managed to get calibration right by copying the xglamo and libts.0* files from 2007.2 image to debian and starting xfce via ssh. It worked then with the standard /etc/pointercal from the 2007.2 image. But I then had the problem, that gdm didn't recognize th

FSO wifi power control

2008-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line in FSO. I thought it might be here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs but it doesn't seem to be. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org h

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be grateful > for > debug logs. WIth the newest framework deamon (which I'm going to upload to > the updates feed on weekend), you can change debug

850 10 pack availability, and dibs

2008-08-07 Thread Lally Singh
Hey folks, Any ideas when the 850 10 packs will be available again? Btw, I'm completely calling dibs on the first one for the NY group :-) Thanks, -ls -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community maili

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
GREAT CATCH! are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please update the thread whenever you try it? > > In fact, if any of us bought more than three it would cost no more > than $0.88 US (shipped): > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3541 > > Although, there s

Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Christophe Badoit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rorschach a écrit : > Hi, when I go into the NOR-Flash to flash my rootfs or the kernel and > I do nothing for ~30 sec the screen gets dark. What happens? Is it just hibernating or shutting down? > > I have to press the aux-button a lot but this is re

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
looking at atd.c of shipped with debian's at: /* Main loop. Let's sleep for a specified interval, * or until the next job is scheduled, or until we get signaled. * After any of these events, we rescan the queue. * A signal handler setting term_signal will make sure there's *

Re: FSO email/ical clients?

2008-08-07 Thread Fredrik Wendt
ons 2008-08-06 klockan 15:10 -0400 skrev xaos x: > The claws-email package works for IMAP... > > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/17 > That bz2 is missing ipk for libaspell. claws-mail: error while loading shared libraries: libaspell.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
> :) > > This may be insane to a lot of people, but being forced into WAV or MP3 has > been one of my strongest motivations for joining Openmoko Inc on their > struggle to create an open mobile communications platform. > > I *want* my SIDs and MODs. Now we're there. > > MODs Too?!? doubly aw

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:35:03 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into > emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would > appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1] people on > suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a projec

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Sven Klomp
On Thursday 07 August 2008 20:35:20 Brian Wilson wrote: > > Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution > > for RTC wakeup. > > I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the > phone would be nice for this beginner. > I wonder if one of those is aroun

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Yes, there is. The reason why I did not publish docs for that is that I > don't > feel confident with the stability of that API yet. I promise to upload the > first sketch of device API docs on weekend (if my wife

Re: usb receptables from old motherboard => gender changer => usb host cable?

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-Female-Coupler-Adapter/dp/B000I97N0S > > I will give one a try. Ha, too easy :-) If you try this, please let me know if you can get any keyboard or mouse work without a hub. (And tell the wiki too).

Re: usb receptables from old motherboard => gender changer => usb host cable?

2008-08-07 Thread Jim Morris
For those who can't solder maybe this would work too http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-Female-Coupler-Adapter/dp/B000I97N0S I will give one a try. Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > I tried this "USB gender changer" and the voltage levels seem to go > just about right: > > normal pc usb port >

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 20:46:19 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Yes. We have both low level device control as well as high level > > (reference counted). For the high level, please use the > > org.frees

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Bruce Adams
I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification from the SIM card about the new message, the phone wouldn't notice the message unt

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Stefan summarized it, that's our position officially. Let me add one thing though, taking off the Openmoko hat for a second: Coming out of the Linux on iPAQ, Zaurus, Motorola EZX, ..., world, with their semi-open platforms and lack of integration everywhere, I see a lot of unused potential bo

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from > OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and > people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in > bulk i

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Yes. We have both low level device control as well as high level (reference > counted). For the high level, please use the org.freesmartphone.Usage API, > for the low level control, please use e.g. the > org.free

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 09:44:42 schrieb Dale Maggee: > SIDs for a ringtone? > . > . > . > *THAT'S* > . > . > . > *AWESOME*! > . > . > . > > /me adds this to the list of things you can't do on any other phone... :) This may be insane to a lot of people, but being forced into WAV or MP3 has

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 08:51:52 schrieb Matt Joyce: > I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is > trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like > this? Resources. I have only four people working on whole FSO and I prefer to concentrate on t

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece. On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, vale wrote: > let us n

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Thanks to both of you for clearing up the roadmap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: > Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: > > Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and > > component placements for the GTA01. > > > > Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. > > > > Respectfully,

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there > is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary You should be able to install more or less everything from any OM feed. -- :M: ___ Openmoko commu

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Brian Wilson
> smart arse answer. There is no BIOS. ;) Not intentionally -- just drawing an analogy as a means of exposition > Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution for > RTC wakeup. I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the phone would be nice for

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 15:45:44 schrieb Eildert Groeneveld: > are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there > is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary > ? > > Further: gps does not seem to be working . Is there a was to switch off/o

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1] people on suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it might become a point that we could simply run the be

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Brian Wilson wrote: > Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set > a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - > cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. > Works quite well to save power. smart arse answer. There is no

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I > disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that > there's no network signal - the signal strength bar is empty (black). > > /org/freesmartphon

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Dan Weatherill
On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:04:02 Robert William Hutton wrote: > Dan Weatherill wrote: > > If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone > > wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the > > message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Yorick Moko
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Yogiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>[Long and detailed reply from Wolfgang Spraul] > Thank you for the explanation. It cleared lots of things out for me as > well. Keep doing the good job you do. Not only you but the rest of > Openmoko team as well. You have my thanks

Re: GPRS internet connection applet

2008-08-07 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
hi Niccolo Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 10:47 +0200 schrieb Niccolo Rigacci: > I just wondering if it exists an applet to start/stop the GPRS > ppp connection (I use OM2007.2). Not officially - though SettingsGUI has a panel for GPRS. > Following the guidelines of this page > http://wiki.open

Re: SDcard holder - convenience "rework"

2008-08-07 Thread Lally Singh
Also, you can get adhesive tabs that will work just as well, and they're designed for the purpose. That way, everyone gets a colored part that isn't sticky. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:42 PM, papa-piet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hehe, > i have had a similar idea, but in my case it was the battery.

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Brian Wilson
Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. Works quite well to save power. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Yogiz
>[Long and detailed reply from Wolfgang Spraul] Thank you for the explanation. It cleared lots of things out for me as well. Keep doing the good job you do. Not only you but the rest of Openmoko team as well. You have my thanks and respect. Yogiz ___ Op

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Dear Kevin, > thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better > than a genuine reality check from outside. > Executive summary first: I understand that we have not done a very > good job at communicating our software strategy, and I accept > respo

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri
You misunderstood me. NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the actual ASU. The error was in the WIKI, not with the people who followed the WIKI's (now false) directions. D David Samblas wrote: > > If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU w

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the > battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold > for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I > wake up and phone is dead :-/ > the clock only use

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread David Samblas
If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you think fake ASU is a real ASU? It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested before on Qemu. So You want ASU? then wait until tomorrow

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Steven **
I think you are being overly critical of a prototype. That is what Zhone is, right? It's prototype code to flesh out the framework. I know I tend to hard-code things when I'm first getting something working. It's a lot easier to debug things that way. -Steven On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:51 AM, M

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same > software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So > that it would be a phone. Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gen

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal 557 38667 -4654632 -51172 121 46965312 65536 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # mo

Re: SDcard holder - convenience "rework"

2008-08-07 Thread papa-piet
Hehe, i have had a similar idea, but in my case it was the battery. Thanks to jOERG i was able to improve my hack :) papa-piet http://freeyourphone.de Joerg Reisenweber schrieb: > for a nice handle to save your fingernails and do no violence on SD-holder by > using a knife etc, see: > http://p

Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Thanks! And I do vote for this BTW... Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:36 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote: > It's ours now sucker! hahahah! > > On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: > > Guys, > > > > Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not > >

Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
It's ours now sucker! hahahah! On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: > Guys, > > Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not > the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will > confuse people to discuss two different topics on

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic. Thanks! Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > D

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of > openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having > to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Indeed. It would be nice if you could then apt-get the openmoko specifi

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash wouldn't be pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such. Perhaps the s

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Daniel, Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but bottom right corner doesn't at all). Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here? Thanks, Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 1

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
Wolfgang, I just wanted to say thanks for this very informative response! :) -Dale Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Dear Kevin, > thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better > than a genuine reality check from outside. > Executive summary first: I understand that we have not d

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted | from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) | | That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. | | I wished that the openmoko team used

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: > > Is it correct to assume that the features of zhone - dialer, answer, > etc. will eventually be replaced by other applications that are > developed outside of the FSO project? This is right. The main focus of the FSO is to deliver a fr

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread john
Thanks for taking the time to respond as this does clarify a lot of questions in my mind! I feel my energy for development returning... Cheers, John. 2008/8/7 Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear Kevin, > thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better > than a genuin

FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Craig B. Allen
I seem to remember reading that zhone is a test application and that FSO will not be developing applications. Is it correct to assume that the features of zhone - dialer, answer, etc. will eventually be replaced by other applications that are developed outside of the FSO project? If zhone is goin

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Dear Kevin, thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better than a genuine reality check from outside. Executive summary first: I understand that we have not done a very good job at communicating our software strategy, and I accept responsibility for that. In detail, let

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to | install this on my microSD card: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian | | I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of

Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride

2008-08-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey Looks like there still was no page so I created it: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking I didn't see how to add it to the technical category. Maybe someone can help out there. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko

Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install li

Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:22:08 +0200 | "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> setenv boot_menu_timeout 9 |> fixes this | | thx for this answer :) | | But doesn't totally answer my question: what happ

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