incoming
> > call/sms), could result in >20 days of standby!
> >
> > For those technical people on this list, they have gotten GTA02A5 in
> suspend
> > using ~2.07mA @ 3.7v (fully charged batt). If the GTA02 will have a
> 1200mAh
> > battery, that's ~24
user may or may not want
>> certain devices available at bootup/all the time (availability vs.
>> duration).
>
> Indeed, this along with good realtime stats on power usage and current
> battery level would let people have reasonably accurate predictions of
> their battery li
ration).
Indeed, this along with good realtime stats on power usage and current
battery level would let people have reasonably accurate predictions of
their battery life. It'd be interesting (to me at least) to turn
on and off the various peripherals and watch my projected battery life
go up an
This would definitely be good. I have Bluetooth disabled on my
current phone almost all the time. As rarely as I use BT, there's no
need to have it always on. I anticipate similar usage for wifi for
me. So, I would love to be able to turn those two off and back from
the icons at the top.
-Stev
> call/sms), could result in >20 days of standby!
>
> For those technical people on this list, they have gotten GTA02A5 in suspend
> using ~2.07mA @ 3.7v (fully charged batt). If the GTA02 will have a 1200mAh
> battery, that's ~24 days of suspend runtime in a perfect world.
Uncle Kridley wrote:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
We are well aware of software changes we need to make in order to
improve battery and have simply not had the time to do this. You can
expect much better battery life when we implement these changes.
[...]
that my very simple testing suggests
.7v (fully charged batt). If the GTA02 will
have a 1200mAh battery, that's ~24 days of suspend runtime in a perfect
world. The goal is set around 1mA-2mA of suspend current draw, with
best case scenario suspend time of ~50 days (sure beats 4 hours... :-P
). There are also issues such a
ose technical people on this list, they have gotten GTA02A5 in suspend
using ~2.07mA @ 3.7v (fully charged batt). If the GTA02 will have a 1200mAh
battery, that's ~24 days of suspend runtime in a perfect world. The goal is
set around 1mA-2mA of suspend current draw, with best case scenario su
Michael Shiloh wrote:
> We are well aware of software changes we need to make in order to
> improve battery and have simply not had the time to do this. You can
> expect much better battery life when we implement these changes.
[...]
> that my very simple testing suggests should last f
et determined yet.
2. The capacity will most likely be around 1200mA.
If you find any place on the wiki that says something other than 1200mA,
can you please make the correction? You may reference this email.
Oh. That's... really disappointing. The battery life is already
unusable, and the fast
rule of thumb is that no LiIon battery will last
> longer than 3 years or so.
I think we are probably safe on that. The Nokia BL5C is used in quite a lot of
different Nokia phones, including a number of very low cost models for
developing countries. Those phones will get manufactured in huge n
On Feb 8, 2008 5:00 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I guess many people would like to have a second battery - is there any
> > chance that you make them available? Openmoko on the Neo is now good
> > enough for daily use, yet it is running out of batter
t.
2. The capacity will most likely be around 1200mA.
Hello Michael,
I guess many people would like to have a second battery - is there any
chance that you make them available? Openmoko on the Neo is now good
enough for daily use, yet it is running out of battery quickly.
Maybe one of the distrib
On Friday 08 February 2008 17:29:36 Steven ** wrote:
> Search the archives. There's some Nokia battery that is apparently a
> drop-in replacement for the Neo1973's battery.
Almost. Unfortunately the Bl-5C has only 850mAh and for some reason the Neo
doesn't charge it. A DT-1
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 10:29 -0600, Steven ** wrote:
> Search the archives. There's some Nokia battery that is apparently a
> drop-in replacement for the Neo1973's battery. They discovered this a
> long time ago.
The Nokia batteries are AFAIK not a drop-in replacement
Hi Tim and others,
There are a number of issues here, and I promised I'd look into this. It
turned out to be complicated, and I don't have the full answer yet.
There were a number of known software issues in GTA01 which caused the
battery to drain more rapidly than intended. Som
Search the archives. There's some Nokia battery that is apparently a
drop-in replacement for the Neo1973's battery. They discovered this a
long time ago.
-Steven
On Feb 8, 2008 9:35 AM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:04 -0800, Michael Shil
ed yet.
>
> 2. The capacity will most likely be around 1200mA.
Hello Michael,
I guess many people would like to have a second battery - is there any
chance that you make them available? Openmoko on the Neo is now good
enough for daily use, yet it is running out of battery quickly.
Maybe one
Have we seen any concrete results on what the battery life will be like in
the GTA02 yet? I suppose we won't get that until it's actually in the hands
of developers.
On Feb 8, 2008 6:23 AM, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shilo
set determined yet.
>
> 2. The capacity will most likely be around 1200mA.
>
> If you find any place on the wiki that says something other than 1200mA,
> can you please make the correction? You may reference this email.
Oh. That's... really disappointing. The battery life is already
ki/Neo1973_GTA02_Hardware
says "1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host",
but the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Battery says
it's a 1700mAh one. So where is the typo?
2008/2/6, Christopher Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL
(Please help by changing the subject when the topic changes)
I'll look into this.
Michael
Denis wrote:
The wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Hardware says
"1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host", but
the page http://wiki.op
On Dec 5, 2007 2:25 AM, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The latest snapshot includes the first alpha version of the Messages
> application which allows you to send and receive SMS messages.
That's good news!
> I can confirm that GTA02 fixes this - you do not even nee
On Dec 5, 2007 12:18 AM, flexd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
> > Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> >> On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European
> >>> mobile phone user a part
he updates very soon.
[...]
>
> Either the 500mA charging has to be available at all times (also
> when the battery is is completely empty), or a charger which is
> able to instatanously power-on the Neo so that there is no
> interruption in phone use when the battery is completely
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European
mobile phone user a part of "mass", then you are wrong and yes, text
text messaging (SMS) is an absolute
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European
mobile phone user a part of "mass", then you are wrong and yes, text
text messaging (SMS) is an absolute requirement for European mobi
not have
> a way to exchange from the outide without hasse (means: whithout having
> to remove the back cover, battery, sim card and have both SIM and SD
> mounted in this fragile way). So I agree: Mass Storage mode for the
I agree wholeheartedly but if we're talking about hardware
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Jon Phillips wrote:
Priorities for mass usage:
1. phone working
2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge)
Am I wrong?
It depends how you define as "mass" and "usage".
Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European
Yeah, PLEASE give us a terminal! I'm a complete noob at all things Linux but
I already don't feel right if I don't have a terminal to mess with... Later
when the Neo is a consumer ready device it might be a good idea to take the
terminal out of the versions for the general public (or at least hide
> > * No terminal. Ugh.
>
> Do you really need a terminal app on a phone?
> Most phones do not have a term on them. besides, it is opensource, so
> anyone could get one working. Any takers?
I guess most/all here are geeks. I have to admit that the first thing I want
to know before buying a new sm
John Locke wrote:
Hello,
I was running Qtopia for 5 or 6 weeks, and under that, I was getting
about 5 hours of time tops, whether I used the phone or not. The battery
indicator has 5 bars, and after a good 4 hours, there would still be 3
bars left (60%, or so you might think). But by that point
Hi John!
That was a very long, detailed and good answer. Exactly what I needed. The
fact that the battery time is over 7 hours rather than 3 (like most laptops)
gives me faith that it will be quite enough for me. Big thanks!
/Oliver
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Hello,
I was running Qtopia for 5 or 6 weeks, and under that, I was getting
about 5 hours of time tops, whether I used the phone or not. The battery
indicator has 5 bars, and after a good 4 hours, there would still be 3
bars left (60%, or so you might think). But by that point, the power
dropped
Hi!
So for the longest time, I've been worrying about the battery life of the
Neo. Before I buy the GTA02, it is something I'd love to know. The wiki has
entries talking about which power management things are implemented and
which aren't, and I assume this will increase over time
use
for parking assisst, dead angles, etc, and, of course the obligatory USB
reader for music (changing a memcard beneath a battery in city traffic
conditions is like an F1 tire change :). USB powering is an issue there, but
I think perhaps a v2 Car Kit could solve this (if you already have a car
On 5/14/07, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/14/07, Doncho N. Gunchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
However, I too am under the impression that only software is needed to
have the USB-connector act like a host.
/Ole
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If not done, you can still use microSD card with micro to SD convertor, right?
Not really. The microSD in the phone is located below the SIMcard and
below the battery:
https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta01b_v3_case_back_open_white.jpg
However, I too am under the impression that only softw
On Monday 2007-05-14 11:57:09 Hans van der Merwe wrote:
>
> > >(At a high level, my use case is "take pictures from my real camera
> > >and upload them directly to flickr" :-) That requires either an SD
> > >slot, or USB host to talk to the card directly (or USB to talk to the
> > >camera, but th
Mark Eichin wrote:
Speaking of USB -- the openmoko has a USB device port on the side
(that's being discussed in this thread) and internally has a USB host,
according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware#USB_Host
but I what I haven't seen clarified - is the USB host port brou
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 21:14 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Mark Eichin writes:
> >Speaking of USB -- the openmoko has a USB device port on the side
> >(that's being discussed in this thread) and internally has a USB host,
> >according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware#USB_Ho
Mark Eichin writes:
>Speaking of USB -- the openmoko has a USB device port on the side
>(that's being discussed in this thread) and internally has a USB host,
>according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware#USB_Host
>but I what I haven't seen clarified - is the USB host port b
Speaking of USB -- the openmoko has a USB device port on the side
(that's being discussed in this thread) and internally has a USB host,
according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware#USB_Host
but I what I haven't seen clarified - is the USB host port brought
outside at all?
pefully the phone will be able to attempt
>enumeration as a high-power device first, and if nak'd, enumerate as a
>low-power device. In that case, it would be nice if there was some
>indication that the battery isn't being charged, or isn't being charged very
>quickly,
to attempt
enumeration as a high-power device first, and if nak'd, enumerate as a
low-power device. In that case, it would be nice if there was some
indication that the battery isn't being charged, or isn't being charged very
quickly, whatever the case would be.
Also, I haven't checked,
Ian Stirling writes:
>
>Unless you apply the soon-to-be-created patch that someone (maybe me)
>will write that draws 500mA anyway, if the host does not talk USB1 to us
>in 10 seconds.
>Maybe even with a confirmation dialog box.
But a USB 2.0 host will talk 1.1 quite happily...
_
Frank Coenen writes:
>On 5/10/07, Aloril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Small battery-powered USB charger:
>> http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
>> I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973?
>
>
>No it won't be able to charge the Neo1973
Frank Coenen wrote:
Somehow that doesn't sound right to me. Like in the movies, when they
try to hack a computer: there is always some OVERWRITE command, that
doesn't require a password but will grand you access to all the files.
Same applies here. Why put a safety-measure in place if you plan
it anyway? ;-)
On 5/10/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Frank Coenen wrote:
>
> On 5/10/07, *Aloril* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Small battery-powered USB charger:
> http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
> I
Frank Coenen wrote:
On 5/10/07, *Aloril* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Small battery-powered USB charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973?
No it won't be able to charge the Neo1973,
On 5/10/07, Aloril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Small battery-powered USB charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973?
No it won't be able to charge the Neo1973, since it doesn't identify itself
as a USB2.0 host.
Hence, t
Battery-Powered 4-Port USB Hub:
Yes. Has already been discussed; in fact it's quite big and ugly; the
dream would be the expansion back idea: some sort of battery-powered
usb hub + IO extender
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Expansion_Back
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community
Sorry, accidentally sent this before I had written it:
Small battery-powered USB charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973?
Battery-Powered 4-Port USB Hub:
http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Power-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ
I suspect
Small battery-powered USB charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973?
Battery-Powered 4-Port USB Hub:
http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Power-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ
I suspect above can't be used to charge, only for connectin
uro and will
give up to 70 mA (with two)
> Power consumption during operating max 35 mA
Wait the controller and the rest will also consume some
power...
the Chipsbank CBM2080 will consume up to 29,5 mA with
USB 1.1 so with a battery hack the USB memory device
would be usabel for readi
Neo's average battery life when idle in one place, waiting for calls?
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On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:20:05PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
> Salve Ole, *!
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote:
> > If the microSD is pinwise compatible with SD, would it be possible to:
> >
> > * take out the battery
> > * attach the battery using wi
Salve Ole!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
> >> Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly...
> >
> >gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff
> >I would prefer a mutipexe
On 1/16/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
> Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly...
gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff
I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim cards...
but we already had this discussion.. on this li
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 17:17, Robert Michel wrote:
> I would find the need for reboots not smart. The wish that
> the Neo would run also USB powered would only help on the
> road, when I have a battery powered USB hub or any other
> USB power source - only for switching the card
Salve Joe!
Joe Pfeiffer schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 08:16h:
> Robert Michel writes:
> >
> >If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery)
> >than you would be able to skip this point "attach the battery using wires"
> >:)
&g
Robert Michel writes:
>
>If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery)
>than you would be able to skip this point "attach the battery using wires"
>:)
Hmmm, it is possible to charge the battery over USB. If you could run
the phone using USB power with the
Robert Michel writes:
>>
>> As far as we know, it requires powering-down the phone.
>
>Alternative:
>- small capacitator parallel to the battery
>- script/function that
>-- unmount the SD
>-- let the phone sleep for a while
Sure -- this is essentially the PalmOS s
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Robert Michel schreef:
> Salve Gabriel!
>
> Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 14:12h:
>>> Ok you are right, most devices with microSD will have Bluetooth,
>>> most cameras have no Bluetooth, but also using no microSD.
>>> An
g abroad - using a cheaper tariff
I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim cards...
but we already had this discussion.. on this list
> > - copy form microSD to microSD without reboot
> > - switching display to black when the battery
> > is removed and (optional) sending (encrypted)
sd cards with adapter in cams just fine.
> - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly...
> - copy form microSD to microSD without reboot
> - switching display to black when the battery
> is removed and (optional) sending (enc
h,
most cameras have no Bluetooth, but also using no microSD.
An normal size SD slot, usable from outside, would be fine :)
Greetings
rob
PS: Use for the capacitor
- changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
- copy form microSD to microSD without reboot
- switching display to black when the battery
i
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 10:53, Robert Michel wrote:
> Hope that I haven't to hack my Neo1973 myself with my solder iron :)
I still dont see why anyone would really need that. If you need to copy from
microsd to microsd, attach a powered hub and SD reader to the Neo. Besides,
microsd is such a
Salve Grahame!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Grahame Falvey wrote:
> On 16/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Alternative:
> >- small capacitator parallel to the battery
> >- script/function that
> >-- unmount the SD
> >-- let the phone sleep for a
Salve Ole, *!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote:
> If the microSD is pinwise compatible with SD, would it be possible to:
>
> * take out the battery
> * attach the battery using wires
If the Neo1973 could run only with USB power (without battery)
than you would be able to ski
On 16/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Salve Joe!
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Grahame Falvey writes:
> >
> >Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
> >does one have to remove the battery and hence power dow
Salve Joe!
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Grahame Falvey writes:
> >
> >Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
> >does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in
> >order to swap out the card?
>
&g
On 1/10/07 11:39 AM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> I'm going to be in Vegas for another day now. Most of my work here is done
>> this afternoon, so tomorrow I can relax a bit ;-)
>
> Then have fun ;-)
>
> And BTW I wish you and your t
t; Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:54:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Will it possible to use the Neo without battery?
>
>
> I thought the issue was that you would have to physically remove the batter=
> y to change it, in which case everything in SDRA
that the microsd slot is below the battery, this will hardly work
> on the Neo
Why? spending a capacitor and a little bit power saving software
(no gsm, no display (light)... just sleeping) that you can plug
out the battery for 1 minute (Or 30 seconds for fast user)?
It would also help to
:11 PM
Subject: Re: Will it possible to use the Neo without battery?
I thought the issue was that you would have to physically remove the batter=
y to change it, in which case everything in SDRAM would be gone. Is this n=
ot the case? I haven't read everything that's come through the list
I thought the issue was that you would have to physically remove the batter=
y to change it, in which case everything in SDRAM would be gone. Is this n=
ot the case? I haven't read everything that's come through the list so I m=
ay have missed something.=0A=0A~Jeremy=0A=0A- Original Message
I thought the issue was that you would have to physically remove the battery to
change it, in which case everything in SDRAM would be gone. Is this not the
case? I haven't read everything that's come through the list so I may have
missed something.
~Jeremy
- Original Message
D-730, it has the slot
> >on the side, so switching off isn't necessary. When I see
> >my friends (most of them having a Nokia phone) taking
> >out the battery I'm just getting ill...
> >
> >So, I think it would be really great if you could plug the
> >
hen I see
>my friends (most of them having a Nokia phone) taking
>out the battery I'm just getting ill...
>
>So, I think it would be really great if you could plug the
>Neo on usb, charg it, and meanwhile swap the cards...
I'm missing what the issue is: turn the phone
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 22:48, Fabian Off wrote:
> I just wonder how people could live with phones they
> have to switch off any time the card should be changed.
Considering that the microsd slot is below the battery, this will hardly work
on t
Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking forward to have a phone that I can charge
>just with a given USB port - but it would be great,
>when the phone would work or charge even with a
>(quite) dead battery.
Well, that'd be also great for changing the S
ill be fine,
as well
> If anyone is around here and wants to meet up, drop me an email.
I thought you wanted to relax a bit ;-)
When most of your work is done - just another
hardware question/idea:
"Will it possible to use the Neo without battery?"
On Christmas I forgot my m
Koen Kooi wrote:
Uhm around here I get "emergency calls only" on my phone, even with inserted
SIM when I get to some area without coverage from my operator?
Not 'standard', but 'mandatory'. Dialing the alarm number even overrides
keylock, try it
on your current phone.
...which I've always
On 12/15/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Did I alread mentioned the idea to have a capacitor parallel
to the battery? So the Neo1973 cold call the police even without
battery and the simcard and transmitt the coordinates of the phone.
***g*** (of course with black screen...)
Salve Ben!
Ben schrieb am Montag, den 18. Dezember 2006 um 11:47h:
> On 12/16/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble,
> >especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call
> >because their GSM network was n
On 12/16/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble,
especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call
because their GSM network was not strong enough.
Only a few GSM user does know that then it help to remove th
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Gabriel Ambuehl schreef:
> On Friday 15 December 2006 20:23, Robert Michel wrote:
>> Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble,
>> especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call
>> because their GSM network w
On Friday 15 December 2006 20:23, Robert Michel wrote:
> Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble,
> especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call
> because their GSM network was not strong enough.
> Only a few GSM user does know that then it help to re
Dnia piątek, 15 grudnia 2006 21:00, Koen Kooi napisał:
> A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to
> stop a thief that has my phone + simcard?
You have only one cellphone? :D
--
JID: hrw-jabber.org
OpenEmbedded developer/consultant
If you're going down in flam
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 21:00 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
> A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to stop a
> thief that has
> my phone + simcard?
Hmm. You are absolutely correct - security through obscurity + sneaky
tricks aren't going to work medium-long term. Imagine you
Salve Tomasz!
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
> 2006/12/15, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code.
>
> The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card.
This thread is also about "lost" pho
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> 2006/12/15, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code.
>
> The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card.
> So you can forget abou
2006/12/15, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code.
The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card.
So you can forget about contacting your phone, if you not set crontab
task with sending silent SMS with c
Salve!
Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:45h:
> Did I alread mentioned the idea to have a capacitor parallel
> to the battery? So the Neo1973 cold call the police even without
> battery and the simcard and transmitt the coordinates of the phone.
Without SI
Salve Rodolphe!
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
> Le mardi 12 décembre 2006 à 20:41 +0100, Robert Michel a écrit :
> > Salve Rodolphe!
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
> >
> > > Save some power of the battery for normal usa
Salve La!
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, La Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll wrote:
> On #openmoko someone asked for a way to attach USB gadgets that need
> power to a Neo, and I found this device:
> http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Power-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ
Thanks for this link. But I
On #openmoko someone asked for a way to attach USB gadgets that need
power to a Neo, and I found this device:
http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Power-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ
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