Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 13.02.2021 um 22:42 schrieb David Boddie : > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 20:28:01 +0100 Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: > >> When I was younger, I could understand the ?fixation? on getting things into >> mainline ? now, with more years on my back, I believe things would have >> turned out differently

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Mickey, > Am 13.02.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer : > >> But app developers (like those developing QtMoko) did expect 100% which we >> even have not achieved many years after the active development of QtMoko >> ended. > > Not just app developers, also middleware. In fact, the whole

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread David Boddie
On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 20:28:01 +0100 Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: > When I was younger, I could understand the ?fixation? on getting things into > mainline ? now, with more years on my back, I believe things would have > turned out differently if we were to follow the path of most commercial > developer

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Joseph Armbruster
Jonas, I'm soo disappointed. I was dying to get my hands on hardware to start doing development. I'm a software/hardware guy and figured it'd be a great stack to work with. In the interim, i'm at a point where my daughter is asking for a phone. My plan is to hack-up one of the DIY phone projec

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Joseph Armbruster (2021-02-13 20:37:17) > You're lucky! > > I ordered my librem 5 in NOV2018. I have yet to receive any > hardware... Sorry to hear that. I work for Purism, and was given a phone to help test it (but the last draft revision codenamed "Dogwood", not the final "Evergreen

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Joseph Armbruster
You're lucky! I ordered my librem 5 in NOV2018. I have yet to receive any hardware... Joseph Armbruster On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 4:45 AM michael spreng wrote: > Hi > > Some time ago there was a discussion if any librem5 have shipped, so I > thought I would write a bit about mine: > > In Decemb

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
> But app developers (like those developing QtMoko) did expect 100% which we > even have not achieved many years after the active development of QtMoko > ended. Not just app developers, also middleware. In fact, the whole userland is depending on a 100% functioning kernel – otherwise it’s just n

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 13.02.2021 um 15:28 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2021-02-13 14:53:00) >> >>> Am 13.02.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : >>> >>> Quoting michael spreng (2021-02-13 10:45:18) In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try >>

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2021-02-13 14:53:00) > > > Am 13.02.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > > > Quoting michael spreng (2021-02-13 10:45:18) > >> In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try > >> it out. It seems to work reasonably well, can make phone

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 13.02.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > Quoting michael spreng (2021-02-13 10:45:18) >> In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try >> it out. It seems to work reasonably well, can make phone calls and >> messages. Though there is no support yet for the

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 13.02.2021 um 10:45 schrieb michael spreng : > > Hi > > Some time ago there was a discussion if any librem5 have shipped, so I > thought I would write a bit about mine: > > In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try it > out. It seems to work reasonably well, can

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting michael spreng (2021-02-13 10:45:18) > In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try > it out. It seems to work reasonably well, can make phone calls and > messages. Though there is no support yet for the camera. Seems camera support saw progress for the low-level

[Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2021-02-13 Thread michael spreng
Hi Some time ago there was a discussion if any librem5 have shipped, so I thought I would write a bit about mine: In December I received my librem5 phone and now had some time to try it out. It seems to work reasonably well, can make phone calls and messages. Though there is no support yet for th

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5 news or progress?

2017-12-22 Thread Matthias Weiß
Have you seen this: https://puri.sm/posts/running-plasma-mobile-on-an-imx6-test-board/ ? > Am 22.12.2017 um 11:04 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller : > > Hi, > >> Am 22.12.2017 um 10:54 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : >> >> Quoting H

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5 news or progress?

2017-12-22 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, > Am 22.12.2017 um 10:54 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2017-12-22 08:25:35) >> I looked into the Forum and it seems to be very quite inactive to me: >> >> https://forums.puri.sm/c/librem/phones?order=activity >> >> Is there a mailing list or some active news b

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5 news or progress?

2017-12-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2017-12-22 08:25:35) > I looked into the Forum and it seems to be very quite inactive to me: > > https://forums.puri.sm/c/librem/phones?order=activity > > Is there a mailing list or some active news blog or irc to follow? News blog: https://puri.sm/news/ - Jonas

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5 news or progress?

2017-12-21 Thread Matthias Weiß
Nothing i know of… i follow their twitter account to get the lastest news. :/ > Am 22.12.2017 um 08:25 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller : > > Hi, > I looked into the Forum and it seems to be very quite inactive to me: > > https://forums.puri.sm/c/librem/phones?order=activity > > Is there a mailin

[Tinkerphones] Librem 5 news or progress?

2017-12-21 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, I looked into the Forum and it seems to be very quite inactive to me: https://forums.puri.sm/c/librem/phones?order=activity Is there a mailing list or some active news blog or irc to follow? BR, Nikolaus ___ Community mailing list Community@tinker

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-28 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 28.10.2017 um 15:45 schrieb Paul Boddie : > > On Saturday 28. October 2017 14.14.26 rhn wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:33:17 +0200 "H. Nikolaus Schaller" >> wrote: >>> >>> But I just found this morning: >>> https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/documentation/ >>> >>> This

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 28. October 2017 14.14.26 rhn wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:33:17 +0200 "H. Nikolaus Schaller" > wrote: > > > > But I just found this morning: > > https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/documentation/ > > > > This looks to be very important (dated 07 Apr 2017): > >

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-28 Thread rhn
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:33:17 +0200 "H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > Hi, > > > Am 24.10.2017 um 22:06 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > > > > > > BTW. What's the situation with PowerVR closed drivers on GTA04 with > > current kernels? Unfortunately I got slightly out of touch these days, > > ti

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-28 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, > Am 24.10.2017 um 22:06 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > > > BTW. What's the situation with PowerVR closed drivers on GTA04 with > current kernels? Unfortunately I got slightly out of touch these days, > time to catch up :) there is something which happened almost unnoticed by the commun

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-26 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 25.10.2017 um 19:15 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2017-10-25 17:57:48) >> >>> Am 25.10.2017 um 12:11 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : >>> >>> Quoting Rainer Dorsch (2017-10-25 10:57:38) On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: > I d

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread Matthias Weiß
This would be nice especially because of quantum step x) Am Mittwoch 25. Oktober 2017 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller: > > > Am 25.10.2017 um 12:11 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > > > Quoting Rainer Dorsch (2017-10-25 10:57:38) > >> On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: >

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2017-10-25 17:57:48) > > > Am 25.10.2017 um 12:11 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > > > Quoting Rainer Dorsch (2017-10-25 10:57:38) > >> On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: > >>> I didn't pledged because I was not aware that such thing exist

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 25.10.2017 um 12:11 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard : > > Quoting Rainer Dorsch (2017-10-25 10:57:38) >> On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: >>> I didn't pledged because I was not aware that such thing exists :) >> >> I think you can still preorder... > > Correct: Fun

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Rainer Dorsch (2017-10-25 10:57:38) > On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: > > I didn't pledged because I was not aware that such thing exists :) > > I think you can still preorder... Correct: Fundraising campaign is formally over, but Librem 5 can still be pr

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2017 09:55:24 CEST Belisko Marek wrote: > I didn't pledged because I was not aware that such thing exists :) I think you can still preorder... Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ ___ Community mailing list Community@ti

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-25 Thread Belisko Marek
Hi, On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:09 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi, > Librem 5 was now successfully funded. > > Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? I didn't pledged because I was not aware that such thing exists :) > > I'd be interested in what you expect it can do > what the Letux

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting W. Martin Borgert (2017-10-24 22:43:57) > On 2017-10-24 19:09, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? > > I pledged for the developer board, because I want to be sure, > that "my" Debian packages will run fine on it. Also, I will try > to use it as a

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-24 22:43, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Still, as a mobile device, I find other devices more interesting > than Librem 5. E.g. ZeroPhone, because it is cheap and simple or > Pyra, because it has a nice keyboard. Btw. I'm a backer of both Pyra and ZeroPhone, too. ___

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Bryan
I pledged for the developer unit, really out of curiousity. I don't see Librem seriously challenging the phone platform duopoly anytime soon. It would take a large following to do so, or a mass migration toward web-based mobile apps (I'm secretly hoping FireFoxOS was just ahead of its time). My cr

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 24. October 2017 21.15.08 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > Am 24.10.2017 um 20:08 schrieb Gilles Filippini > > : > > > > When I heard about the Librem 5 project I just felt more confident in > > their capacity to overcome these difficulties, because of their > > experience with notebo

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-24 19:09, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? I pledged for the developer board, because I want to be sure, that "my" Debian packages will run fine on it. Also, I will try to use it as a landline SIP phone and XMPP terminal. Still, as a mobile de

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread rhn
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:06:00 +0200 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:46 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > Am 24.10.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Matthias Weiß : > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > i also backed on one. > > > > > > I like the cooperation with g

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 24.10.2017 um 22:06 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:46 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> Am 24.10.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Matthias Weiß : >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> i also backed on one. >>> >>> I like the cooperation with gnome/kde projects a

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Matthias Weiß
Hi again, some thoughts about a „pyraPhone“: Yeah, the cores should limited on 1ghz. maybe with manual switch to 1.5 / when connected to power cord. As UI e17 or KDE Plasma mobile or even Sailfish OS. A pyraPhone should be also have connectors for additional hardware like the moto z / original

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 24.10.2017 um 22:01 schrieb jake42 : > > On 24.10.2017 21:46, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Opinions? > Or rather questions. Let's try to find answers... > Is there a power-saving state for a mobilephone use case which > works on OMAP5? Basic suspend works (I have tried on the Pyra).

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:46 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Hi, > > > Am 24.10.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Matthias Weiß : > > > > Hello, > > > > i also backed on one. > > > > I like the cooperation with gnome/kde projects and the focus on matrix. > > Yes, this are important steps. > > Gnome/KDE c

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread jake42
On 24.10.2017 21:46, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Opinions? Or rather questions. Is there a power-saving state for a mobilephone use case which works on OMAP5? How big a battery would it need to be able to use it for two days mostly in standby registered to the network? BR Jake __

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, > Am 24.10.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Matthias Weiß : > > Hello, > > i also backed on one. > > I like the cooperation with gnome/kde projects and the focus on matrix. Yes, this are important steps. Gnome/KDE could theoretically just be some apt-get install gnome on the GTA04. I ne

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, > Am 24.10.2017 um 20:08 schrieb Gilles Filippini : > > H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit le 24/10/2017 à 19:09 : >> Hi, >> Librem 5 was now successfully funded. >> >> Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? > > I did. > >> I'd be interested in what you expect it can do >> what the Letux

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Matthias Weiß
Hello, i also backed on one. I like the cooperation with gnome/kde projects and the focus on matrix. With a i.MX 8 / 3GB RAM it has also enough power to run most applications with desktop features (for example with external display or just if i want a full firefox/libreoffice like on ubtouc

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread Gilles Filippini
H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit le 24/10/2017 à 19:09 : > Hi, > Librem 5 was now successfully funded. > > Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? I did. > I'd be interested in what you expect it can do > what the Letux activities can't or don't. I had an Openmoko from 2008 until 2011. It loo

Re: [Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread rhn
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:09:38 +0200 "H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > Hi, > Librem 5 was now successfully funded. > > Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? > > I'd be interested in what you expect it can do > what the Letux activities can't or don't. > > BR, > Nikolaus > Hello, I "inve

[Tinkerphones] Librem 5

2017-10-24 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Librem 5 was now successfully funded. Anyone here on this list who pledged for one? I'd be interested in what you expect it can do what the Letux activities can't or don't. BR, Nikolaus ___ Community mailing list Community@tinkerphones.org http://